Entitlements

kbd512 · 2020-08-09 17:35:06

SpaceNut,

Both President Trump and Secretary Mnuchin have stated that the payroll tax deferments are only intended to be temporary to assist employers with getting Americans their jobs back.

SpaceNut · 2020-12-25 18:58:06

well starting in January the deferred will be in the taxes to be removed through until all paid back by April...

Stimulis was a failure as it only lasted for a few months to keep economy from going into a full depression but the virus lingered and vacines are just now here to try when enough of them are made...

Recent battles to get 600 dollars in the hands of the suffering was veto'd with a claim to make them House Republicans Block $2000 Stimulus Checks After Trump Insists On Them so as of this moment we have no defense bill to continue funds come Monday, no fiscal budget requiring a shutdown and no help for those still without jobs....

if it had passed this is what you would get
Much like the first time the dependents get nothing....

SpaceNut · 2020-12-31 12:57:42

Trump has returned to the WH after the senators have rejected raising the stimulus to what he requested for the 3rd day now blocking the House passed bill to the GOP run senate...
A bill to increase the amount of recently passed stimulus checks from $600 to $2,000 was blocked for a third day in a row in the GOP-controlled Senate. with satements from McConnell: House's $2,000 stimulus checks are 'socialism for rich'

Really those people receiving the money are rich???? Current payments are in the middle class group and not the Rich as its income based with anyone who made under $75,000 as an individual or $150,000 as a couple would receive the full amount....

So if thats the sticking point lower the range to whom would or could receive it....

kbd512 · 2020-12-31 16:39:21

SpaceNut,

All those rich people have already received our tax money, whether we get a dime of stimulus money or not. My wife remains unemployed, as she has been since July. Despite that, we've yet to receive a dime of that "stimulus money", nor do we ever expect to. Why are you so anxious about who's receiving our tax money now? I have a better question, though. How long do you think that money will last you, relative to having a better paying job? Those same people who make money off of us after voting their cronies into office are laughing all the way to the bank. I don't know about you, but I'm not sure I or my children will be able to afford the tax bill after this looting of the treasury is finished.

SpaceNut · 2020-12-31 18:47:30

As a person with under 75k of income that provides for 4 family members all disabled I am poor not rich.

Sorry to hear about unemployment woohs.
I too have spent a year plus trying to get work in the past with all of the reporting of efforts to the unemployment office just to be able to get a hundred dollars. Taking even parking cars at a fairgrounds.

SpaceNut · 2021-08-14 19:06:21

If it comes to pass in the next budget year still more than 30 days away. Here's how much your Social Security check may increase in 2022 may be 6.2%.

SpaceNut · 2021-11-24 14:41:34

“There’s nothing more stressful than getting a call from your 75-year-old mom telling you she got fired from her job and has $600 in her bank account,”

I am sort of curious as to the status of social security and other such supports that seem to be missing.

Good for the son helping.

SpaceNut · 2022-01-09 20:40:01

1 in 5 Americans Are in for a Shocking Social Security Surprise

Not even close to enough with that fact that the inflation is not slowing down with eating into what you might have saved.

Social Security was never meant to be a stand-alone support source for seniors or even to provide the bulk of the income retirees require. The benefits were intended to work in conjunction with a pension from an employer and with savings the worker amassed over the course of their career.

So much for carriers and the employer having pensions

Together, these three income sources were supposed to replace about 80% to 90% of preretirement funds, which most experts suggest retirees need to maintain their standard of living.

401k chips ins is not a pension either

If you're far from retirement, the good news is that you have time to course-correct if you anticipated Social Security would provide most of your support in retirement. You'll want your savings to replace about 40% of preretirement income to supplement the 40% Social Security replaces, so set a goal to save a nest egg that will do that at a safe withdrawal rate.

to many flavors of how to not have enough income to live on

https://transamericainstitute.org/docs/ … report.pdf

ouch 300 plus pages...

One more challenge to making the funds work is to stay away from These 13 States Could Take a Bite Out of Your Social Security Benefits

Here are the 13 states where you may lose some of your Social Security income to taxes:
Colorado
Connecticut
Kansas
Minnesota
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
New Mexico
North Dakota
Rhode Island
Utah
Vermont
West Virginia

SpaceNut · 2022-01-17 18:27:59

Social security

Actual age of retirement to prevent early retirement punishments, based on birth year:
1943-1954 - 66
1955 - 66 and two months
1956 - 66 and four months
1957 - 66 and six months
1958 - 66 and eight months
1959 - 66 and 10 months
1960 or later - 67 will only claim seventy percent of their total benefit amount if they opt to retire early at age 62.
In comparison to last year, you need to be working an extra two months after your birthday to receive your full state pension, if your 66th birthday is this year.

continuing to change the goal posts....

SpaceNut · 2022-02-21 18:57:21

For some taking the retirement early is a win if you are gating enough money to survive on but when you misjudge the amount you have a limited time to turn the clock back and get back to work until you are much closer to full retirement age.

within the first 12 months of her original filing, she could have had another option available: She could have withdrawn her filing application from Social Security, and paid back the benefits that she had received up to that date.
Social Security would have been effectively wiped clean, and she could refile at any point in the future that she wants to. But this is only available during the first 12 months from your original filing. After that time passes, it’s no longer available.

SpaceNut · 2022-12-28 18:44:33

Social Security denies disability benefits based on list with jobs from 1977

Reality of a changing times is that jobs that once were of high demand no longer exist.

He had made it through four years of denials and appeals, and Robert Heard was finally before a Social Security judge who would decide whether he qualified for disability benefits. Two debilitating strokes had left the 47-year-old electrician with halting speech, an enlarged heart and violent tremors.
There was just one final step: A vocational expert hired by the Social Security Administration had to tell the judge if there was any work Heard could still do despite his condition. Heard was stunned as the expert canvassed his computer and announced his findings: He could find work as a nut sorter, a dowel inspector or an egg processor - jobs that virtually no longer exist in the United States.
He was still hopeful the administrative law judge hearing his claim for $1,300 to $1,700 per month in benefits had understood his limitations.
But while the judge agreed that Heard had multiple, severe impairments, he denied him benefits, writing that he had "job opportunities" in three occupations that are nearly obsolete and agreeing with the expert's dubious claim that 130,000 positions were still available sorting nuts, inspecting dowels and processing eggs.

My own wife went through this got benefits only to lose then since I began working and made to much....

SpaceNut · 2022-12-30 18:23:29

It appears efforts were to do anti fraud investigation which targets the disabled, poor ect that has come to light.
The Senate Finance Committee is preparing to launch a broad, bipartisan inquiry into the Social Security Administration Inspector General’s Office as lawmakers are concerned about management failures compromising its mission.

The Post has reported that Ennis’s office levied unprecedented penalties against more than 100 disabled claimants, then sidelined two senior officials who exposed the practice, they said. The Post reported that Social Security is struggling to provide basic customer service to disabled claimants following prolonged pandemic closures — and described the forces that led to a backlog of more than 1 million pending disability claims in the state offices that adjudicate initial applications for benefits. In addition, The Post found that Social Security relies on a list of obsolete jobs to deny thousands of claims each year. And The Post disclosed that a senior leader overseeing 9,000 employees in the disability system was found by investigators to be routinely impaired on the job.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … -obsolete/

SpaceNut · 2023-01-10 19:15:27

Republicans in the House of Representatives will vote on a bill that would abolish the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), eliminate the national income tax, and replace it with a national consumption tax.

Most states have income tax, sin taxation covering alcohol and tobacco products, consumption taxes as room and meal taxes that cover ready to eat foods or restaurants, property taxes, registrations of all forms and types ect

So, unless the write offs disappear then all its going to do is shift them elsewhere....as state-to-state cost of living is different as well as to the wages that one might earn even for the same jobs and not at just the minimum wage or federal wage.

Mars_B4_Moon · 2024-03-06 11:41:21

Here's what California's radical reparations plan will cost taxpayers
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/heres-w … -taxpayers

Will California Do Reparations Right?
https://www.yesmagazine.org/social-just … -implement
California is closer than any other state to realizing reparations for Black people.

Calliban · 2024-03-06 12:05:40

Mars_B4_Moon wrote:

Here's what California's radical reparations plan will cost taxpayers
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/heres-w … -taxpayers
Will California Do Reparations Right?
https://www.yesmagazine.org/social-just … -implement
California is closer than any other state to realizing reparations for Black people.

How do you compensate someone who has been dead for over a hundred years? And who pays the compensation? The slave owners have been dead for the same amount of time. The blacks alive today have equal rights and equal opportunities. So there is no grounds for compensation. Equal opportunities will not produce equal results of course. But that is a different problem.

kbd512 · 2024-03-06 20:02:11

No reparations are owed to anyone alive today. A debt was incurred to our fellow Americans over 150 years ago, and so it was paid. The asking price was 1.5 million Americans, to include the life of our President. Entire families were lost forever. They gave up all of their tomorrows. Proof of payment can be seen in virtually every cemetery in America. Any who do not believe can dig up the broken bodies of those who fought for the freedom of their fellow Americans. That war is over.

Void · 2024-03-06 20:51:01

You need to escape the trap of Black and White. My skin is not white, but I am of that so called race, if it is a race.

And the people who have African genetic heritage often have genetics from slave owners, not all of whom were so called "White".

If they want reparations, then they need to go to Africa and see if they can get payments from the descendants of the people who took their African ancestor as slaves and then sold them to Arabs and Europeans. Not that no Europeans or Arabs never took slaves themselves, but the history is much more complicated than the powers with hidden agendas have struggled to tell a false story of.

As Kdb512 has said, many people died. That is plenty of payment. Endless numbers of Europeans were abused the same way by Arabs, and other non-European players over time.

It was the nature of the world that if you had a war, the losers might be killed or enslaved. That came to an end in a large measure because of the workings of peoples of European descent. And also, other peoples.

You should not play by their color code. Put your hand on a white sheet of paper. Are you white in color relative to that?

Neither are people who have African genetics typically "Black".

Other phrases "People of color". Well, what color?
Hispanic, Latino, and so on.

Anyone who is Hispanic or Latino might be asked what reparations they are obligated to for the history of Native Americans and indeed people of African heritage. And yet the agenda people roll them into this "People of color" category.

And next then when they have taken those measures, they try to extend the NAZI label to most of the people they call "White".

And what does this resemble? It resembles African tribal warfare and slaving. (Indeed, Europeans and Asians have some such histories also).

But it is a hatred stirred up to justify a demand for tribute.

It is bullies trying to take lunch money off of the other kids.

It is not right. It is extremely immoral.

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Void · 2024-03-12 17:38:05

This is an interesting claim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHShIEP2DRE
Quote:

Exposing Africa's Part In The Slave Trade
A Day In History

I wouldn't bother but there are a lot of white people who are really willing to throw people like me under the bus, even though I don't beleive I have much of a historical relationship with what is accused by others to us as a crime.

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