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#51 2019-07-13 19:08:44

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Re: Trump Proposes U.S. ‘Space Force’ to Guard the Galaxy

Not to be out done  but French President Emmanuel Macron announces creation of French space force

Get the remaining ISS partners in on this and protect all of the worlds right to go....

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#52 2019-08-09 20:14:31

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Re: Trump Proposes U.S. ‘Space Force’ to Guard the Galaxy

Another space partner sees the light as Japan to Create Military Space Unit to Catch Up With Rivals to create a military space unit of the country's Self-Defence Forces in 2020 in connection with the increased use of space for defense purposes by other countries, including the United States, Russia and China....

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#53 2019-08-11 20:39:19

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#54 2019-08-12 03:44:44

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Re: Trump Proposes U.S. ‘Space Force’ to Guard the Galaxy

Why the Space Corps needs to use naval rank (Space Review)

Particularly if/when they start having people in space. Space isn't an ocean, but does require people to spend months at a time in technologically advanced vessels that protect them from the hostile environment outside.

As I've said before, though, we need a Space Guard more than a Space Force. Something capable of inspecting satellites, providing on-orbit assistance to stations, monitoring traffic and intercepting when necessary...


"I guarantee you that at some point, everything's going to go south on you, and you're going to say, 'This is it, this is how I end.' Now you can either accept that, or you can get to work." - Mark Watney

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#55 2019-08-12 10:45:05

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For Terraformer #54 ...

Bravo! Thanks for the link to that excellent article.  I read all the way through to the comments, which included a reminder that Robert Heinlein was a naval officer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_A._Heinlein

He was reported to be in favor of naval titles for the Space Force.

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#56 2019-08-12 16:54:23

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Re: Trump Proposes U.S. ‘Space Force’ to Guard the Galaxy

I would agree with Terraformer's assesment that the nations of the world need to band together such that space access is protected and that space is not used for mass delivery of distruction to the peoples of earth.

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#57 2019-08-21 16:58:43

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Re: Trump Proposes U.S. ‘Space Force’ to Guard the Galaxy

Space Council recommendations address exploration and management concerns in its sixth public meeting since being reconstituted two years ago.

NASA has not provided an updated schedule for the first SLS/Orion mission, Artemis 1, although contractors involved in the program said at an Aug. 19 conference that they now expect the launch to take place in early 2021, rather than 2020.

Why? There should not be anymore delays...

NASA has provided few details about what kind of long-term lunar presence it will have once it returns to the moon for short-duration stays in 2024.

Gee more heal dragging...


Take a lesson Nasa as spacex-tesla-roadster-starman.jpg?quality=98&strip=all&w=782
Elon Misk's roadster has made its way around the sun for its first orbit....

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#58 2019-09-25 07:25:42

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In a visit to Japan recently, the NASA director argued for "space security".

He was in Japan to seek cooperation in pursuit of away-from-Earth exploration objectives.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nasa-chief-s … 44685.html

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#59 2019-09-25 19:18:51

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Trump did not put forth the concept to protect America's interests but one to keep others out which is just wrong.

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#60 2019-12-22 19:39:58

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kbd512 wrote:

tahanson43206,

As I understand it, Space Force is initially tasked with doing what Air Force Space Command did so that the Air Force can re-focus on their traditional core competencies of tactical and strategic air superiority.  For the military, space access is about providing sensor and communications coverage.  As we rapidly progress towards interplanetary civilization in the 21st century, operations will eventually take place off-world and that is where a separate military branch will eventually become a vital part of our national security infrastructure.  The threats that come from giant space rocks can end life on Earth as we know it, so that is another mission area that simply isn't part of the current thinking of a military organization primarily tasked with air superiority.

To that end, Space Force needs to establish an array of telescopes and communications satellites around our solar system to discover and respond to such threats before they become show-stopper events requiring massive levels of heretofore unseen international cooperation to come up with "Hail Mary" solutions.  Let's say we do have a million people in a Mars colony and unfortunately for them, a giant space rock is on its way to wipe them out.  It's not an Air Force problem.  We never created our Air Force to fight giant space rocks.  That said, there's still a massive problem to be addressed.  Do we rely on someone else to come to their rescue or do we build the infrastructure now to create the tools and technologies to obliterate that thing before it sets human progress back another half century or more?

I would also prefer that the Air Force or Navy purchase the Stratolaunch aircraft to use as a technology testbed for the airborne aircraft carrier concept I put forward so that we can transform our military into a truly air mobile operation that can reach any part of the world in a matter of hours, rather than days or weeks, with substantial combat power.  That's never going to happen as long as the Air Force and Navy have so many tens of billions of their budgets earmarked for space assets and launch services.  The other objective I'd like to meet is a substantial reduction in the number of personnel required to maintain a credible defense, which is what an air mobile force would provide.  It's obvious to me that the current force structure is meant to maintain the status quo, rather than effectively fight the next major war.  Most of our aviation assets are either aging rapidly or are already obsolete in the face of modern integrated air defense systems.  We need an entirely new generation of aviation technologies, which doesn't just mean stealth this / that / the other, useful as that suite of technologies is.

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#61 2019-12-22 19:44:40

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Re: Trump Proposes U.S. ‘Space Force’ to Guard the Galaxy

Part of the farce is they are not making any ships and while these vehicles from space x and boeing as well as others could be used its time lines of service using them for there flights which will be problematic....

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#62 2019-12-22 20:46:53

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SpaceNut,

Do you really want to pay for military-only spaceships when our private sector will build them on their own dime and then provide them to US DoD whenever they ask?

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#63 2020-01-16 20:29:40

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Re: Trump Proposes U.S. ‘Space Force’ to Guard the Galaxy

New Space Force Chief sworn in at White House

Gen. John "Jay" Raymond as the new Chief of Space Operations

Raymond assumed the duties of the first head of the Space Force on December 20, 2019, when U.S. President Donald Trump signed into law the National Defense Authorization Act that officially launched the new force.
"The Space Force will help us deter aggression and control the ultimate high ground,"

https://www.spaceforce.mil/

The military's role in space has come under scrutiny because the U.S. is increasingly reliant on orbiting satellites that are difficult to protect. Satellites provide communications, navigation, intelligence and other services vital to the military and the national economy.

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