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For Mars_B4_Moon .... the Universe is big enough for everyone who does NOT want to live with others to go off to live by themselves.

The difficulty we seem to be having on Earth is the desire of some to control the lives of others.

The current example is the Taliban arriving in Afghanistan after years in exile, wanting to impose their beliefs and practices on others.

I think the issue at hand is that (as nearly as I can tell) the Taliban cannot and will not tolerate the existence, let alone the presence, of anyone who does not agree completely with their point of view.

Such persons need a planet of their own.  The Universe is large enough. 

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Royal Canadian Mounties on Mars?

Crimes on the moon could soon be added to Canada's Criminal Code

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/space- … -1.6432854

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Imperialism is back, rise in war and return of the Orthodox and paleoconservative?

New Frontier, Exploit Resource?

Reduce Friction in Space by Amending the 1967 Outer Space Treaty
https://warontherocks.com/2022/08/stabi … ce-treaty/

Lunar mining and Moon land claims fall into a gray area of international law, but
https://theconversation.com/lunar-minin … aft-188426

some will seek religion for answers

Actor Shia LeBeouf converts to Catholicism
https://nypost.com/2022/08/25/shia-labe … pio-movie/

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We even had discussion of Penal Colony, all Convicted Criminals to be deported to Mars as Punishment... it might have worked out for the Empire in Australia but on Mars I'm not sure that is wise. The Antarctic Treaty was signed in Washington on 1 December 1959 by the twelve countries whose scientists had been active in and around Antarctica. The countries include Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Chile, France, Japan, New Zealand, Norway, South Africa, United Kingdom, United States and USSR.
https://www.ats.aq/index_e.html
'Antarctica shall be used for peaceful purposes only. There shall be prohibited, inter alia, any measures of a military nature, such as the establishment of military bases and fortifications, the carrying out of military maneuvers, as well as the testing of any type of weapons.'

In 1949, Argentina, Chile, and the United Kingdom signed a Tripartite Naval Declaration committing not to send warships south of the 60th parallel south, which was renewed annually until 1961 when it was deemed unnecessary when the treaty entered into force. This tripartite declaration was signed after the tension generated when Argentina sent a fleet of eight warships to Antarctica in February 1948.

Some incidents had occurred during the Second World War, and a new one occurred in Hope Bay on February 1, 1952, when the Argentine military fired warning shots at a group of Britons. The response of the United Kingdom was to send a warship that landed marines at the scene on February 4. In 1949, Argentina, Chile, and the United Kingdom signed a Tripartite Naval Declaration committing not to send warships south of the 60th parallel south, which was renewed annually until 1961 when it was deemed unnecessary when the treaty entered into force. This tripartite declaration was signed after the tension generated when Argentina sent a fleet of eight warships to Antarctica in February 1948.

On January 17, 1953, Argentina reopened the Lieutenant Lasala refuge on Deception Island, leaving a sergeant and a corporal in the Argentine Navy. On February 15, in the incident on Deception Island, 32 royal marines landed from the British frigate HMS Snipe armed with Sten machine guns, rifles, and tear gas capturing the two Argentine sailors. The Argentine refuge and a nearby uninhabited Chilean shelter were destroyed, and the Argentine sailors were delivered to a ship from that country on February 18 in the South Georgia Islands. A British detachment remained three months on the island while the frigate patrolled its waters until April.

On May 4, 1955, the United Kingdom filed two lawsuits, against Argentina and Chile respectively, before the International Court of Justice to declare the invalidity of the claims of the sovereignty of the two countries over Antarctic and sub-Antarctic areas. On July 15, 1955, the Chilean government rejected the jurisdiction of the court in that case, and on August 1, the Argentine government also did so, so on March 16, 1956, the claims were closed.

In 1956 and 1958, India tried unsuccessfully to bring the Antarctic issue to the United Nations General Assembly.

https://www.icj-cij.org/en/case/26

Since the designation of the Australian Antarctic Territory pre-dated the signing of the Antarctic Treaty, Australian laws that relate to Antarctica date from more than two decades before the Antarctic Treaty era. In terms of criminal law, the laws that apply to the Jervis Bay Territory (which follows the laws of the Australian Capital Territory) apply to the Australian Antarctic Territory. Key Australian legislation applying Antarctic Treaty System decisions include the Antarctic Treaty Act 1960, the Antarctic Treaty (Environment Protection) Act 1980 and the Antarctic Marine Living Resources Conservation Act 1981
https://web.archive.org/web/20090519011 … casid=3358

Under the South African Citizens in Antarctica Act, 1962, South African law applies to all South African citizens in Antarctica, and they are subject to the jurisdiction of the magistrate's court in Cape Town. The Antarctic Treaties Act, 1996 incorporates the Antarctic Treaty and related agreements into South African law. In regard to violations of these treaties, South Africa also asserts jurisdiction over South African residents and members of expeditions organized in South Africa

Countries had established over 55 Antarctic research stations for the IGY, and the subsequent promulgation of the treaty was seen as a diplomatic expression of the operational and scientific cooperation that had been achieved. As of 2019, the treaty has 54 parties.
https://www.state.gov/antarctic-treaty/

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The British government seems to want look to Branson, look to invest in partners or in the international community or Private sector, it also was left vulnerable with reliance on Russian Rockets to launch science, it might also become one of the 'Space fairing Nations'.

The new Leader she paid respect to the Monarchy, had an audience with the Queen at Balmoral, Scotland.

Liz Truss becomes Britain's new prime minister
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai … ccf2d5ac68

The idea of a Monarchy seems alien to the people of the United States, the US is a mix of many ethnic groups and language and food and Exploration and Literature culture but US culture shares much with French, Greek and especially British heritage. Magna Carta Libertatum "Great Charter of Freedoms" commonly called Magna Carta is a royal charter of rights agreed to by King John of England at Runnymede, near Windsor.

https://oed.com/search?searchType=dicti … Carta%2C+n.

It has been part of History of Human Rights, Liberty and Union of Kingdoms, part of the history of Fundamental Law and Democracy.

Madeleine, Margaret and Mohammedans?

Some of the youngest countries or new independent states on Earth include Botswana, Australia, Marshall Islands, Armenia, Principality of Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Montenegro, Argentina, Fiji, Algeria, Cyprus, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Albania, and the Republic of Colombia South America.

There are also times when a long established nation state will re-write its Constitution.

A nation or puppet state can be made by way of immigration and invasion?

What is the difference between Yugoslavia, Albania, Kosovo, Serbia, Ukraine, Russia and regions like 'Donetsk'?

International recognition of a new islamic Albanian Kosovo, since its declaration of independence from Serbia enacted in 2008, has been mixed, and international governments are divided on the issue.

Time Magazine called it "Madeleine's War."

There is no doubt Slobodan Milosevic was a criminal, he killed, he was a gangster leader and a dictator and it is reported Dr. Albright had worked to halt ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and Kosovo. Could there have been another way to fix this without the break up on nations?

In another trail of that region Slobodan Praljak from another war, committed suicide: and 'took cyanide' in the kangaroo clown court of the Hague, a city and municipality of the Dutch Netherlands, he was on trial in Hollanda Bosnian Croat who served in the Croatian Army and the Croatian Defence Council, an army of the Croatian Republic of Herzeg-Bosnia,  Praljak stated that he rejected the court, and fatally poisoned himself Live on Tv in the courtroom while a bunch of dumbfounded Legal idiots looked on. The Dutch Hollaand authorities declared the courtroom a crime scene and launched an investigation. The Bosniak member of the Presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bakir Izetbegović, said that Praljak was led to suicide by the joint criminal enterprise, while Croat Chairman Dragan Covic stated that Praljak had sacrificed his life to prove his innocence. Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic said he would not mock Praljak's suicide but has criticized the reaction of Croatian officials.

In 2022, Serbian Foreign Minister Nikola Selaković announced that four new countries withdrew their recognition of Kosovo without mentioning their names. He further said that President of Serbia Aleksandar Vucic will inform the public which these four states are once he deems it necessary.
https://www.srbija.gov.rs/vest/en/18906 … ndence.php

and When Feminist Women equally make War like Men Do?

"Disgusting Serbs!"

What happens when you confuse Czech people as Serbs during your book sign

Madeleine Albright in 'Disgusting Serbs' Outburst
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/madeleine-alb … gue-399655

The videos show Albright being approached by members of the group Friends of Serbs in Kosovo, led by Czech film director Vaclav Dvorak, whose movie Stolen Kosovo blames the American-led NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999.

Madeleine Jana Korbel Albright born Marie Jana Korbelová was an American diplomat and political scientist who served as the 64th United States secretary of state from 1997 to 2001, member of the Democratic Party, Albright was the first woman to hold that post, she was born in  in Prague, Czechoslovakia, so you would think she would be able to recognize her own people instead of calling them 'Disgusting Serbs', she died in 2022. Some sang 'Ding-Dong! The Witch Is Dead' just as some in England blamed Margaret Thatcher for stealing their school 'Milk Money' during the recessions and sang the very same song,news media reported she wasn't going to give back the tax funded money and instead spend it somewhere else 'milk snatcher' number of Thatcher opposers grew tremendously and so the song became a hit once she died. Baroness Thatcher also gave public endorsement of NATO's war against Serbia,
'Stop the Serbs. Now. For Good.'
https://www.nytimes.com/1994/05/04/opin … -good.html

If Catherine the Great was a Man would she have been Hated More or Loved Less?

Thatcher a women's rights person was also a big supporter of gun running to the mujahideen of Afghanistan, a group which would later evolve into the Taliban.

The pro-jihadist mohammedan 'Organization of Islamic Cooperation' member states have recognized Kosovo.

Out of the G20 countries, only eleven have recognized Kosovo's independence

A war could re-spark in this region at any time.

Russia through imperialism has helped Balkanize Ukraine land, the Donetsk and Luhansk regions Ukraine's breakaway republics
A Russian media article claims Elections in the DPR and LPR were held on 2 November 2014, after the territories had boycotted the 2014 Ukrainian parliamentary election.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150402115 … rld/753919
Donetsk People's Republic a quasi-state proclaimed within the territory of Ukraine, which is militarily occupied by Russia and Russian-backed separatists.

There was also Issuance of the first DPR passports in March 2016

In 2022 Russians launch a full scale invasion of Ukraine, the United Nations, and the vast majority of the international community consider the DPR to be an illegal entity.

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Democracy sometimes it sucks but most times it will be ok, its far better than all those other systems.

NATO to deploy extra 700 troops to Kosovo as tensions with ethnic Serbs rise
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/nato-deploy-e … 00761.html

President Biden's Criminal Justice Report Card | Time
https://time.com/6155084/biden-criminal-justice-reform

Preceded by Boris Johnson former leader Liz Truss a British politician who served as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Leader of the Conservative Party from September to October 2022. On her fiftieth day in office, she stepped down amid a government crisis, succeeded by Rishi Sunak.

Inside Sunak's plan to curb Britain's supermarket bills without a mandatory price cap
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics … ak-barclay

New Documents Reveal Prince Andrew's Association With Jeffrey Epstein Was More Complicated Than Anyone Ever Imagined
https://www.yahoo.com/news/documents-re … 19034.html

Macron speaks of society's 'decivilization' after recent crime wave
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/politics/arti … 987_5.html

A drug-related crime is a crime to possess, manufacture, or distribute drugs classified as having a potential for abuse (such as cocaine, heroin, morphine and amphetamines). Drugs are also related to crime as drug trafficking and drug production are often controlled by drug cartels, organised crime and gangs. Some drug-related crime involves crime against the person such as robbery or sexual assaults. Driving under the influence (DUI) is the offense of driving, operating, or being in control of a vehicle while impaired by alcohol or drugs (including recreational drugs and those prescribed by physicians), to a level that renders the driver incapable of operating a motor vehicle safely.

three police officers died after a collision with a driver driving the wrong way, who tested positive for alcohol and cannabis.

Antarctica: wild continent of snow, ice and, increasingly, women
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ … scientists

Antarctic Treaty and related agreements, collectively known as the Antarctic Treaty System (ATS), regulate international relations with respect to Antarctica, Earth's only continent without a native human population. It was the first arms control agreement established during the Cold War, setting aside the continent as a scientific preserve, establishing freedom of scientific investigation, and banning military activity; for the purposes of the treaty system, Antarctica is defined as all the land and ice shelves south of 60°S latitude.

The main treaty was opened for signature on 1959, and officially entered into force 1961. The original signatories were the 12 countries active in Antarctica during the International Geophysical Year (IGY) of 1957–58: Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Chile, France, Japan, New Zealand, Norway, South Africa, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, and the United States. These countries had established over 55 Antarctic research stations for the IGY, and the subsequent promulgation of the treaty was seen as a diplomatic expression of the operational and scientific cooperation that had been achieved. As of 2023, the treaty has 56 parties.
https://www.state.gov/antarctic-treaty/

Iran

https://news.yahoo.com/iran-president-a … 00606.html

'The Greatest Threat to Jewish Observance'

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-gre … bservance/

The group Amnesty International reported on Saudi that at least 102 men and women, 39 of them foreign nationals, were executed in 2008, many for non-violent offenses... 'sodomy', blasphemy and apostasy.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090724104 … udi-arabia

We know moohammad was probably a sexual deviant that prayed to a demonic terrorist Moongod but...

What to do when a co-called religion gets so totally perverted and stupid. The Quran or Koran seems to not just mention virgin females but mentions boy pedophile acts, ghilman as serving boys who are one of the delights of Jannah or paradise/heaven of Islam
https://books.google.com/books?id=rwYmA … n&pg=PT110
Before Homosexuality in the Arab‐Islamic World, 1500–1800 is a 2005 book by Khaled El-Rouayheb, published by the University of Chicago Press. El-Rouayheb had written a PhD dissertation on the subject of homosexuality in the Arab-Islamic world, and this dissertation was supervised by Basim Musallam
http://www.glreview.org/article/article-1018/

When the islamic dies in battle?
'They will be served by these boy youths who will be as beautiful as pearls.'

Dalai Lama says he regrets video showing him kissing boy and asking him to ‘suck his tongue’
https://www.ladbible.com/news/dalai-lam … 2-20230410

Bolivia's Catholic Church acknowledges being 'deaf' to sex abuse victims
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/boli … 45386.html

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Laws on Misconduct?

Two former employees accuse Florida Rep. Fabian Basabe of sexual harassment
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2023/07 … arassment/

Another Two employees accuse Florida Rep. Fabián Basabe of sexual harassment in lawsuit, Political party Republican and Florida House of Representatives.

In April 2023, CBS 4 Miami reported that Basabe physically assaulted his 25-year-old legislative aide. In a statement to CBS 4, the aide claimed Basabe had been drinking after Governor Ron DeSantis's inauguration on January 3, before slapping him in the face and demanding he stand in a corner. The incident is currently under investigation.
https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/stat … g-an-aide/

Cocaine Was Found in a ‘Limited Access Place’ Near the WH Situation Room — ‘Average People Just Can’t Get In There’
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023 … -in-there/

White House cocaine scandal sparks investigation by top Republican into security 'failures'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … lures.html

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How the moon will change this decade during new 'space race'
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/how-moon-chan … 29658.html

By the end of the 2020s, human beings will have revisited the moon

South Korean government to adjust medical school quotas in bid to end walkout, following crushing election defeat
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asi … g-election

South Korea’s Legislative Election: What Went Wrong for the PPP?
https://thediplomat.com/2024/04/south-k … r-the-ppp/

nutty religion type and an original vision for secularism almost destroyed

Turkey’s Erdogan Is Down, But Don’t Count Him Out
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic … nt-him-out