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#301 2026-05-13 08:26:34
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Re: The Moon
Moon Cracks have become a major interest to me:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/ … i-AA2367kI
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The moon is still alive: The shocking truth behind moonquakes
Recent findings show the Moon may still be geologically active. Cracks and moonquakes suggest ongoing internal changes.These discoveries reshape how we think about lunar stability. The Moon may not be as dead as once believed.
*You have to unmute the video.
So, with the upper layers of the Moon shrinking faster than lower layers, (Presumable from cooling), and the tides, is this a bit like a jaw crusher?
https://www.cpcequipments.com/blog/cate … -crushers/
Quote: https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.2339c820946 … ImgRaw&r=0
*You have to click the above link to see it.
So, are the Moon and Mars fracking themselves over time, with water settling into its fractures, and the Moon having rubble and gasses settle into it's fractures?
Query for more information: "The moon is still alive: The shocking truth behind moonquakes Recent findings show the Moon may still be geologically active. Cracks and moonquakes suggest ongoing internal changes.These "
The query results in this: https://www.bing.com/search?q=The+moon+ … ST&ntref=1
A question is can you burrow into the cracks deeply if over time the cracks have self fracked?
And may you access different resources and data than what is on the surface?
My notion is that the "Atmosphere" in these cracks will be more substantial and perhaps of different gasses than is true on the surface of the Moon.
Query: "What gasses may be inside of Moon cracks?"
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … &FORM=VIRE
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NASA Detected a Gas Leak on the Moon — No Human Was There. Scientists Still Can't Fully Explain
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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-026-01933-2
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Daily variations of carbon, nitrogen and oxygen ions in a thin lunar atmosphere
Kentaro Terada, Ryusei Nishihira, Shoichiro Yokota, Yoshifumi Saito, Kazushi Asamura, Masaki N. Nishino & Shota Notsu
So, I am wondering if the higher layers of rock cool faster than the lower ones does that cause a stress that may provide horizontal crack extensions from the vertical cracks?
Do the Moon fractures fill with gas molecules, like it seems that the Mars fractures fill with water?
As fractures extend and rock may be grinded, are gasses embedded in the crust released?
Do Gasses on the Surface including Hydrogen, Hydroxyl, water vapor and Helium travel into the pore space of the Moon cracks?
I have read that the Moon cracks may be 19 to 20 km deep. So there may be a chance if the gasses settle there in the pore space that a very small atmospheric pressure might build up in the bottoms of the cracks.
Or do solar effects cause gasses to wick out like evaporation of water from wet cloth?
I am hoping that the cracks may turn out to be a source of resource.
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#302 2026-05-14 09:29:44
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Re: The Moon
I am considering the possibility that there could be a way to extract molecules from a Moon crack without drilling too deep.
The nature of the molecule processes inside and outside the crack may matter.
I am making the assumption that molecules may accumulate in the cracks, sourced from deep inside the Moon and perhaps also some coming from the surface and responding to gravity. If this process were true, then there has be a point of saturation where the crack can hold no more molecules. The variables of surface temperature and tides may affect this saturation of capacity.
I think a "Dry Hot Well" method might work, along with a variable temperature adsorption/desorption process, and also electric current flows might work.
Long ago I read an article about how the Germans dried up ground using electricity so that they could move tanks, in WWII. Never could find anything about that in the recent years, I think it is not supposed to be available. Also though, if you make a plough blade a cathode, and put an anode in the ground you could attract water to the plough blade.
Today, I think I found support for this: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a … 5266900111
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As a result of application of direct electrical current alone, water is driven from the positive to the negative electrode, where it can be pumped out and discarded.
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Reference (44)
AdamsonL.G. et al.
Some data on electrokinetic phenomena and their possible application in petroleum production
Chim. Chronika (Athens, Greece)
(1963)
AdamsonL.G. et al.
Possible use of electric current for increasing volumetric rate of flow of oil and water during primary or secondary recovery
Chim. Chronika (Athens, Greece)
(1963)
AmbaS.A.
BelluigiA.
Über die elektro-osmotische Entwasserung von Lockerboden in dreidimensionaler Form
So now I have a proper word to search for! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrokinetic_phenomena
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Electrokinetic refers to the study and phenomena of particle or fluid motion induced by an electric field.
Electrokinetic phenomena occur when an electric field interacts with charged particles or surfaces in a fluid, causing motion of either the particles or the fluid itself. These effects are particularly significant in heterogeneous fluids, colloidal suspensions, or porous media, where particles can be solid, liquid, or gas bubbles at micro- or nanoscale. The underlying mechanism involves the electric double layer (EDL), a region near a charged surface where counterions accumulate, creating a potential difference that drives motion when influenced by an external force.
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Key Electrokinetic Phenomena
Electrophoresis: Movement of charged particles relative to a fluid under a uniform electric field. This is widely used in analytical chemistry and biotechnology for separating biomolecules.
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Electroosmosis: Flow of liquid relative to a stationary charged surface under an electric field, commonly applied in microfluidic devices and soil remediation.
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Streaming Potential and Streaming Current: Electric potential or current generated when a fluid moves through a charged porous medium, useful in sensors and energy harvesting.
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Electric Sonic Amplitude: Ultrasound generated by colloidal particles in an oscillating electric field.
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Applications
Electrokinetic principles are applied in microfluidics, lab-on-a-chip devices, capillary electrophoresis, gel electrophoresis, and electrochromatography for precise manipulation and analysis of fluids and particles at micro- and nanoscale. In environmental engineering, electroosmosis is used to remove contaminants like heavy metals from soils. Electrokinetics also underpins the design of electrochemical devices such as batteries and electrosynthesis systems.
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Summary
In essence, electrokinetics bridges physics and chemistry by explaining how electric fields influence the motion of particles and fluids. Its study enables control over microscale and nanoscale processes, with broad applications in scientific research, industrial processes, and environmental remediation.
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So the presumed gasses in a crack or even in the regolith are perhaps to be considered to be at a lower partial vacuum than the Exosphere of the Moon.
If it turns out to be true that a reservoir of thin gasses exist in the crack it may be possible to draw (+) ions to a cold to hot adsorption method. You would also need an anode at some distance away in the crack. The Anode (+) would repel any (+) ions of gas, but the Cathode in the adsorption method (-) will attract a positive ion flow into the adsorption device. The adsorption device would be cold during this part of the action but later it would be heated to cause a release of the collected Ions in to a subsequent concentration/collection device.
It is possible that it might be helpful to heat the Anode to more excite the gas molecules.
https://www.aiche.org/sites/default/fil … part_1.pdf
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Effects of Pressure and Temperature on Adsorption
The adsorption rate is directly proportional to the temperature, pressure, and surface area of the material. Adsorption is a process where mass transfer occurs from gases into a solid material or from a liquid surface to a solid. Adsorption can be classified into physical (physisorption) and chemical (chemisorption) processes, each with its own set of characteristics and effects on the variation of pressure and temperature. Adsorption isotherms represent the relationship between adsorbate adsorbed and the effects of temperature and pressure. The Langmuir isotherm is a common representation of the equilibrium between an adsorbent system and an adsorbate in isothermal conditions.
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Doing an electric circuit on the Moon with an insulated wire might present trouble as the vacuum can leak electricity.
I have some hopes that an anode with an heated electron gun may be able to shoot an electron beam to a cathode method some distance away, perhaps line of sight.
So, we know that things like H20 and Hydroxyl move around the Moon during the day/night cycle. We may hope that there is a concentration of those and perhaps Carbon and Nitrogen in the Lunar Cracks, but we do not know yet.
Perhaps this is a frist attempt to design a machine to collect gas molecules on the Moon, specifically (+) Ions.
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