Booze

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-04-20 05:59:53

Eighteenth Amendment, also known as the Prohibition Act, tought everything was going immoral, booze could be bad for economic production...but the Mafia got money
and the pot head fantasy?

Vertical Farming Hemp for Biodiesel and Ethanol?

https://medium.com/@hempsaveearth/verti … c1a2a643dc

Distiller from reality show to open local distillery in Ripley

https://local12.com/news/local/distille … nnati-ohio

SpaceNut wrote:

Maybe a bit of wine from elderberry or maybe a jelly or syrup....

People will probably need time off, you can't tell everyone to suck it up soldier as with the Skylab and MIR protests.

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Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-04-25 14:51:08

Scientists Used Brain Scans to See How Magic Mushrooms Battle Depression. Here's What They Found

https://singularityhub.com/2022/04/19/s … hey-found/

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-02 07:15:17

Fake AI Booze Reviews on Mars?

A.I Sommelier Generates Wine Reviews without Ever Opening a Bottle
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti … -a-bottle/

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-07 07:14:32

The Addict Stoned Economy?

States that legalized marijuana are bringing in more tax revenue on pot sales than alcohol
https://app.autohub.co.bw/states-that-l … n-alcohol/

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-11 17:40:47

Seems many of the States in the US and World Goverments want to push this 'Cheech & Chong' culture so they can get people hooked and collect more taxes?

Germany Speeds Up The Process To Legalize Recreational Cannabis

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dariosabag … -cannabis/

Thailand to give away one million free cannabis plants to households, minister says

https://cbs58.com/news/thailand-to-give … ister-says

Calliban · 2022-05-12 03:25:55

Mars_B4_Moon wrote:

Seems many of the States in the US and World Goverments want to push this 'Cheech & Chong' culture so they can get people hooked and collect more taxes?
Germany Speeds Up The Process To Legalize Recreational Cannabis
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dariosabag … -cannabis/
Thailand to give away one million free cannabis plants to households, minister says
https://cbs58.com/news/thailand-to-give … ister-says

Three things are at work here:

1. The need for more tax revenue;
2. There is a significant drug culture that runs through the left leaning white socialist subculture. All the white liberals that I have ever known are degenerates that tend to consume a lot of weed;
3. The leaders want to keep the goyim as anaesthatised as possible as their living standards collapse. Cannabis is good soma. Only morphine woukd do the job better. Maybe that is next on the list?

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Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-15 04:01:52

Some of the guys rotting their brains smoking hookah, shisha pipes see nothing wrong with this and yet will put a Sharia Law on wine or beer? In many parts of Europe where its banned it seems the Weed is a chemical artificial thing or else its smuggled inside of the anus of some Arab and people go to Arab criminal to buy the stuff who then make big money selling an illegal product to addicted teens?

Way We Were: Prohibition pays in Park City
https://www.parkrecord.com/news/park-ci … park-city/

Parting ways with Prohibition: Booze ban lifted in Alberta, 98 years ago today
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-ne … -ago-today

Hemp grower in NC looks to medical marijuana’s future
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/artic … 173835.php

or Weed Hemp market is hitting saturation?

Colorado Marijuana Sales Hit a Ten-Month Skid
https://www.westword.com/marijuana/colo … d-14058087

maybe not, big sales and taxes.

States that legalized marijuana raise more tax revenue on pot sales than alcohol
https://justthenews.com/nation/states/c … -pot-sales

Alcohol is prohibited to be consumed while living in the islamist theocratic monarch state of Qatar. It is considered a crime against the Law of the Moongod al-Lah and a crime against the 1400 yr old Pedophile Warlord terrorist mahomet's Sharia Laws to drink Alcohol in Qatar. If someone violates the law in this regard during the corrupt FIFA Soccer Worldcup, he or she may face severe consequences such as rapes by prison guards or Death?
Qatar allows bachi bazi abuse of kids and transexuals but bans Gays and Lesbians?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/2 … se-accept/
Three Qatar hotels on Fifa's approved World Cup list 'refuse to accept gay guests'

Gene editing reverses brain genetic reprogramming caused by adolescent binge drinking, may be a potential treatment for anxiety and alcohol use disorder
https://scitechdaily.com/gene-editing-a … -drinking/

Council to vote on repealing Sunday alcohol sales prohibition
https://hoptownchronicle.org/council-to … ohibition/

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Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-20 17:32:42

Finland brewery launches NATO beer with 'taste of security'

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai … d8c1781827

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-23 06:31:02

California Governor Proposes Tax Relief For Marijuana Growers
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ajherringt … a-growers/
Cannabis Weed slowly become New England’s newest cash crop
https://justthenews.com/nation/states/c … -cash-crop

Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin drank some wine when he took communion while on the Moon in the Lunar Module Eagle. The ceremony was not broadcast following earlier protests against religious activity that opponents believed to breach the separation between church and state
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr … union-moon

PDF - 1985 NASA report on extended spaceflight predicted that alcohol would be missed, but would only become common in stable settlements
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi … 024459.pdf

Cosmonaut Alexander Poleshchuk said bottles of cognac would be hidden behind panels on Mir
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn … orbit.html

Beer and other carbonated drinks are not suitable for spaceflight as the bubbles cause 'wet burps'; also, a foamy head cannot form as the bubbles do not rise.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn … y-history/

Making alcohol in space would be difficult; for example conventional distillation would be impossible in zero gravity and the volumes of liquid required are high
https://www.wired.com/2017/03/whats-poi … ake-booze/

Guy drinks a 159 year old bottle of wine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrf6IDTjhTQ
Beer in orbit: Why space is the next frontier for alcohol
https://www.foxnews.com/science/beer-in … ce-alcohol

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Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-05-26 04:20:37

Save the World One Shot at a Time With This CO2-Infused Vodka
https://www.popularmechanics.com/scienc … sed-vodka/

Arizona recreational cannabis sales hit record $72 million in March
https://www.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/see … -in-march/

Medical marijuana sales in Arizona continued to slide in March, dropping for the fifth consecutive month

Total sales for both programs in March were $121.8 million.

State tax analysts also revised February sales: Estimated medical sales were adjusted upward by $1.2 million to $53.7 million, while adult-use cannabis sales clocked in at $2.3 million more than previously believed, landing at almost $71 million.

The revised total for all cannabis sales in February was $123.8 million.

Recreational sales have been rising consistently since March 2021, when sales hovered around $60 million.

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Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-06-10 06:30:46

This man built his own house out of hemp that he grew

https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/06/ … wn-housing

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-06-12 10:05:58

Germany is facing a major beer bottle shortage, which has led to breweries begging drinkers to return empty ones, report says

https://www.businessinsider.com/german- … rts-2022-6

"Saccharomyces cerevisiae" has been instrumental in winemaking, baking, and brewing since ancient times.

NASA is sending yeast to space to gauge impact of electromagnetic radiation on DNA

https://www.wionews.com/science/nasa-is … dna-487406

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Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-06-25 16:12:14

Banning tourists from cannabis cafes will cut back on crime: Amsterdam Mayor Fernke Halsema
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/06/b … e-halsema/

IoT Device Pulls Its Weight In Home Brewing
https://hackaday.com/2017/03/01/iot-dev … e-brewing/

New Westminster's Wine Factory lets you make your own hard seltzer
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/make-yo … y-new-west

RobertDyck · 2022-06-27 15:08:32

Bringing back to booze. Here in the Canadian province of Manitoba, it's now legal to home distill. I have made white rum using white sugar and molasses. I used both champagne yeast (normal wine yeast) and distiller's yeast. With wine yeast you can ferment 16% alcohol before distillation, with distiller's yeast 20%. Higher alcohol requires more sugar. I used Dry Active Distiller's Yeast (DADY). Flavour is subtly different. I found it tastes better when I distill to 60%, then dilute with water to 40%. The countertop distiller was technically designed to distill water, so I used distilled water both for primary fermentation and dilution.

Home distillation is legal in New Zealand, so equipment is important from there. Although my countertop distiller is from the US.

I also make honey liqueur. The Liquor Mart in this province stopped stocking Irish Mist, so I decided to make my own. It's still available, but you would have to order a case at a time, and wait for delivery from Ireland, and they increased the price per bottle. So, uh, no. Glayva is stocked, but it's expensive. That's from Scotland, any whisky made in Scotland is technically Scotch, which has a higher price. Irish Mist is made with Irish whiskey, heather honey, and aromatic spices. Glayva is Scotch whisky, heather honey, spices, and tangerines. Heather doesn't grow in Canada, it's too cold, so that type of honey isn't available. Heather honey is red in colour, giving those two liqueurs their characteristic colour. I use buckwheat honey, because it's available here. Generic honey is made with whatever the bees find, quality can very greatly. Honey from one crop is more consistent and frankly better tasting. Clover honey is bland. Buckwheat honey has slightly more flavour, and it's brown in colour. I start by fermenting white sugar with water and Turbo Yeast Classic 8; a combination of DADY with yeast nutrient, yeast energizer, vitamins, and all the micronutrients that yeast needs. After dissolving 8kg (17 pounds 10 ounces) into 20 litres of distilled water, result is 24 litres. First couple gallons of water must be hot to dissolve sugar, then add room temperature water for fermentation. Fermentation takes 10 days at 16°C (61°F) or 5 days at 25°C (77°F), producing 20% ABV. Then distill. My countertop distiller only holds 1 US gallon (3.8 litres), and if there's any sugar left you have to reduce how much you load to prevent foam pushing the entire contents out. Distill to 50% ABV, using a proof and tralle hydrometer. The hydrometer is accurate at room temperature, when it comes out of the distiller it will be very hot. I produce 11 cups 5 ounces of 50% alcohol at room temperature, then heat on the stove but don't boil. Infuse with 7" strip of orange zest. Crush one whole nutmeg and place in a tea ball. Add 5 allspice berries to the teaball, and add to the alcohol to infuse. Heat in a glass pot (Visions cookware) for at least an hour, stirring the teaball occasionally. After infusing, remove the teaball and orange zest. Pour in heather honey. Store near me sells jars with 500g each. Wash the jars without breaking the seal, using antibacterial dish soap, and carefully rinse off the jars. Pour honey into the warm alcohol, and rinse out the jars by dipping the jar into the warm alcohol. This will get every drop of honey out. The honey will sink to the bottom. After all 3 jars are emptied, stir with a plastic spoon (washed with antibacterial dish soap and rinsed). Once well mixed, siphon into empty glass bottles. I kept some Irish Mist bottles, removing labels. Result is 35% alcohol. This will fill 5 bottles @ 750ml. My glass pot only holds 4.5 litres, the fermenter produces enough alcohol to fill the glass pot 2 times, so 10 bottles of liqueur. And a little alcohol left over. I use the remaining alcohol to make orange liqueur using orange zest and white sugar, about a mickey bottle.

The countertop distiller does not use any water for cooling. It only uses radiator fins with a fan to blow air. It takes a couple hours to distill one gallon. This process takes a few days, so the whole process takes about 2 weeks. This could be sped up with a 5 gallon still. Units available here include a 5 gallon coffee urn (stainless steel). Top is either refluxing condenser, or dome top for an alembic pot still. Copper binds certain harsh distillation products, so makes smoother alcohol. But the countertop distiller was on sale for $80 plus shipping from Amazon, the 5 gallon one from a local store costs $700 plus tax with the refluxing condenser, or $800 with the dome top. The larger one could process a fermentation batch in one go. So at warmer fermentation temperature, 5 days fermentation, plus another day for distillation, infusing and bottling, and start the next batch.

We could do this on Mars.

Calliban · 2022-06-27 16:01:17

Robert, that is very interesting. I have wanted to do exactly the same thing for years. But the UK inland revenue are too greedy to allow home distilling. Any distillation has to be licenced here. And they tend to track individual equipment purchases, lookihg for anyone who might be breaking the rules.

Please keep us all informed as to how your hobby progresses. Have you considered purchasing oak casks to allow maturation?

One interesting option on Mars is the much lower pressure. This would allow distillation at much lower temperature. Which may result in some interesting flavours. There is no oak on Mars, so we would have to either find another way of ageing our whisky, or import the barrels from Earth. We could try growing oak trees and putting burned oak staves into the whisky. I would love to be able to experiment with these things.

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RobertDyck · 2022-06-27 16:35:16

To make orange zest, take a whole orange that isn't pealed, wash of any residue so it's clean. Then use a vegetable pealer to remove the peal. Try to get as little of the white "pith" as possible. Once you have a strip of orange peal, use a paring knife to scrape off any white pith. The under side of the peal should be the same dark orange as the top. The white pith is bitter, you don't want that. The orange peal with no pith is "zest", and has a strong orange flavour.

I did try to make whisky with liquid barley malt mixed with water and white sugar. It didn't work. The store that sells equipment and supplies for home distilling also sells bags of toasted oak chips. So rather than aging in barrels, you could filter through wood chips. They have plain toasted oak chips, or ones soaked in tequila, rum, whiskey, or bourbon. Spelling whiskey with an "e" means it's either from the US or Ireland; Canada and Scotland do not use the "e". The company that makes Irish Wiskey ages their product in used oak barrels from a US distiller that makes bourbon. There are also other flavouring agents: yarrow, juniper berries, rose hips, wormwood, dried sweet orange peel, dried bitter orange peel, dried lemon peel, sarsaparilla, coriander seeds.

Scotch is traditionally infused with common heather, yarrow, and sweetgale. Other names for sweetgale: myrica gale, bog-myrtle, sweet willow, Dutch myrtle. Other names for yarrow: gordaldo, nosebleed plant, old man's pepper, devil's nettle, sanguinary, milfoil, soldier's woundwort, thousand-leaf, and thousand-seal.

When whisky is first distilled, it's clear as water. It's aged in charred oak barrels. The charcoal on the inside of the barrel absorbs harsh chemicals from distillation. And charring converts some of the cellulose of the wood into sugar, which absorbs into the whisky. It's that charred oak that colours it amber. The warehouse has to change temperature to cause the whisky to expand and contract, pushing into the wood and out. Some will evaporate. So filtering through charred oak wood chips should greatly speed up the process. I haven't tried yet.

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-07-01 16:24:03

Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ … ino-effect

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-07-02 19:16:43

Cannabis may now cause one in four new cases of schizophrenia in men

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/can … ne-in-four

How California's legal cannabis dream became a public health nightmare

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti … tmare.html

How the Coronavirus has Affected Alcohol Use in Adults

https://americanaddictioncenters.org/bl … use-adults

Researchers from the Rand Corporation and the Indiana University School of Public Health examined survey data from 1,540 adults. They compared alcohol use between April 29–June 9, 2019, and May 28–June 16, 2020, and found that overall alcohol consumption in adults increased by 14%. For adults 30–59, the uptick was as high as 19%.

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BeerMan · 2022-07-03 05:35:02

Hello, everyone,

I'm new to the forum and to the Mars Society in general. I'm working on a writing project about beer on Mars. Here is the gist of it:

Title: "Buzzed Lightyear: Tapping into Beer's Interplanetary Future."
Abstract: For Elton John’s Rocket Man, “Mars ain’t the kind of place to raise your kids.” But it might be the kind of place to brew your beer. In 2017 Budweiser pledged to be Mars’ first brewery, and astrobiology students at Villanova University successfully grew hops in simulated Martian soil. The feasibility of brewing beer on Mars is not only about science. Beer’s history, and its current state, on Earth hold lessons for bringing beer to the Red Planet.

As of now, I feel like I have covered some of the technical aspects of brewing Mars. I'm working on a section about the social context of drinking on Mars. Will/should alcohol be permitted on the planet? Where will it be consumed? Will there be "Mars Bars"?

I'm looking forward to the exchange of ideas.

All the best,

Paul

Calliban · 2022-07-03 10:15:36

Welcome aboard Beerman! Mars colonists will need booze even more than their Earthly counterparts. Alcohol can be fermented from anything that contains sugar. Beer might be more difficult on Mars, because it needs either malted barley or wheat as it's starting point. It could still be done though. But given that ethanol can be made from anything containing sugar, Mars might be a Vodka kind of place, at least in the early days. That would be a disappointment to me if it turns out to be true, because I don't like vodka. I am a single malt and bourbon drinker. For those things you need grains - malted barley, wheat, rye and corn. The same things that are needed to produce beer. I would love to spend my final years building the first Martian distillery. Maybe we can build a brewery on the same site and use the same feedstocks.

tahanson43206 · 2022-07-03 10:36:28

For Calliban re #95

Thanks for this resounding boost for BeerMan!

Please take a look at My Hacienda, and specifically the registry. With the arrival of BeerMan, I see the possibility of a generation able to realistically imagine moving to Mars with a going business ready to go, based upon meticulous planning on Earth before departure.

The layout of My Hacienda is based upon a vision of Louis, and then extended by SpaceNut and others.

The whole point of the structure of My Hacienda is to acknowledge the specializations that together make up the first tier civilization we enjoy, and the second and third tier environments that others on Earth must endure.

It is possible that wheat and barley are already listed in the Registry, but if not, we (SpaceNut or I) can add them easily enough.

All specializations are structured as threes, taking into the account the capitalist structure that works in the free parts of Earth, and the standard practice in the United States to demand at least three bidders for any government contract.

(th)

Mars_B4_Moon · 2022-07-03 11:32:43

Personally I have commented on the social issues facing future Mars colonies. I do not support Booze or Drugs on Mars but I am not against it. I realize that once you have large numbers of people with stuff already growing stuff for recreation will inevitably happen, people who are hard at work in the mines of Mars might need some down time. I believe Buzz Aldrin drank some wine when he took communion while on the Moon and Russians may have smuggled Vodka aboard the MIR space station. Early colonies on Mars might only have certain types of hardy Crops, there has also been discussion here of insects and pollinators and what kinds of animal or bee might survive inside a Biosphere in Mars.

Most of Mars will be inhospitable, cold radiated no pressure unlivable, a land that is uninhabitable however with each new Biosphere perhaps built by Robots, the soil and air inside these Domes transformed before the humans arrive Mars itself might have Arable land, there is now evidence we might even live inside caves or crop can be grown without sunlight. If we do have farms on Mars it won't be sunny like Colombia, Uganda, Kenya, Brazil, a colony might experience hardships, stress on power, dust storms where you have loss of expected sunlight for many weeks, the Cold Desert of Mars will impose its Hardiness zone inside your Biodomes, after a while some heaters might fail, panels might get covered in dust, some warm topical sauna you tried to build might break down, randomness, or uncertainty will try creep in and return events to their normal order, your warmed dome might get colder.

The good news is there are many hardy plants that can survive and thrive in hardy zones. Even a Broccoli, Peas: or Cabbage can become a wine or beer although they go off fast, grow moldy and get fungus, it is a more difficult task to make wines or beers from other crop, some plants simply make bad drinks, they are described as ‘a fart in a glass’ by old books. In the Philippines they have a gunpowder infused coconut sap wine, Parsnip can be added to a booze or wine, you can make a drink from South American tree bark, during the age of exploration spruce trees would keep the old sailing crew healthy when there was no fruit on their sea faring ships. There are many old English and French and Nordic books that describe wine made from Celery, Apples, Carnation flowers, Sambucus ElderBerry. Even a Disgusting wine or Beer you might add some chemical flavor add a Mushroom-Infused Beer flavor, add Berry Flavor to your Wine or Spirits. Cider is a popular drink and alcohol made from Pear and Plum tree, Carrot Wine is also popular, Bottled carrot wine can be made at home by home brewing homestead peoples with the right ingredients, there was one company that put 12 lbs or less than 5.5 kg into each bottle and sold it at a price less than 30 Dollars. Canada uses a plant hard zone formalize map different to the US https://web.archive.org/web/20060629173 … ess.gc.ca/ For example "hardy to zone 10": this means that the plant can withstand a minimum temperature of −1 °C (30.2 °F) to 3.9 °C (39.0 °F) nearby settlement can make a cold zone somewhat warmer, reflecting on urban heat islands by showing the downtown areas of several cities. Scandinavia lies at the same latitude as Alaska or Greenland, but the effect of the North Atlantic Current creates a much different weather system, the Aussies do not use American farm zone maps, Australian National Botanic Gardens have devised another system more in keeping with Australian conditions. https://web.archive.org/web/20101210130 … zones.html If you are able to make your own Alcohol and are looking for inspiration there are sites like https://www.homebrewtalk.com/threads or https://homedistiller.org/forum/ I'm pretty sure there are also groups on utube sites or other social media. For people who farm on Mars they will need to quickly understand the land they are on and have an accurate guide and understanding when deciding which hardy zones they are in, the encouraging developments mean that robots and AI can help your farms and we even have the technology to grow stuff on space stations or can grow plants inside rooms down in the South Pole, fresh foods surviving in the colds of Antarctica. even on exoplanets there might be unique booze fermentation is really common biological process. However we do not know what the effects of lower gravity will to to plant and human, maybe they will sway or hop and dance and stumble around a lot more.

Alcohol itself became a method to move wealth, the Early explorers and Sailors and rum have had a long relationship going back centuries. Brandy and Gin were were considered unpatriotic choices as England was often fighting the French and Dutch.

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Calliban · 2022-07-03 14:32:59

Distilling can do away with any unpleasant flavours. In fact, beverages made with toxic plants can be distilled to produce non-toxic alcohol products. Enzymes can be used to break down polysaccarides into soluble sugars that can be fermented by yeast. So a huge number of plant inputs can be converted into alcohol. No one really bothers researching this too far on Earth because grapes and grains are relatively cheap. On Mars, we are likely to be using microalgae as food, as it offers the most edible biomass for each unit of energy and capital cost in a place where all growing environments are pressurised.

BeerMan · 2022-07-04 07:43:50

This is great stuff, everyone! Thank you! And, thank you for the kind welcome. I should've mentioned that I co-own a small craft brewery. We have a ten barrel system, which translates into being able to brew about 310 gallons at a time. We have six fermenters. We specialize in American style ales, although we have a Vienna lager we're fermenting right now.

For the scientific feasibility of brewing, the biggest issue will be Mars' low gravity. I've consulted with a brewer who used space yeast and has several science degrees. The yeast stress will be significant, but it might yield a beer that would taste, surprisingly, like a Belgian saison. Who knew?!

The social context for beer or alcohol on Mars is what I'm wrestling with. Australia was initially thought to be a dry colony in which temperance and virtue would take over. That ranks right up there with Napoleon's invasion of Russia as a bad plan. And, yet, Mars is a widely different context.

Thanks again for your willingness to engage with my thoughts.

SpaceNut · 2022-07-04 13:53:37

Budwieser pledge from 2017 is interesting will need to google how they planned on that.

https://www.anheuser-busch.com/newsroom … r-on-mars/
had to put in an age to get information.

Being part of the CASIS research on microgravity beer

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/budwei … ation-mars

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