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#1751 2020-07-27 17:36:38

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Off to the court once more. weeks after the U.S. Supreme Court said the president was not immune from state criminal probes. Trump files new challenge to NY subpoena for his tax returns

His charities are why he must turn them over.

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#1752 2020-07-28 18:06:33

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SpaceNut,

Given that the IRS, the FBI, the House investigation, the Senate investigation, and the Mueller investigation have already looked into President Trump's tax returns and bank transactions, what new frauds are our illustrious Democrats hoping to concoct by having them in the public domain?

I mean, The Brookings Institute made up the Russian collusion fraud and now they're going to have their day in court over those shenanigans, so what's next?

Adam Schiff keeps telling everyone that he has the evidence of Russian collusion, yet 4 years later apparently nobody else has ever seen it.  I got a kick out of watching him give that speech in front of The Brookings Institute podium, though.

The Russian collusion fraud against the American people failed and is now exposed for exactly what it is.
The Democrats old racism / sexism / xenophobia standby also failed to gain traction without anyone who can't blame every single problem in their own life on someone else.
The attempt to crash the economy by forcing people to stay home failed.
The unleashing of the hordes of anarchists and nihilists from Democrat-run institutions of higher indoctrination is going over like a lead balloon.

Pretty soon, your boys are gonna have to actually convince people who have been forced to bear witness to the absurdly childish and petty behavior from the Democrats that your ideas are better.  After that 4 year-long temper tantrum, good luck with that.

I'm seriously considering preparing for the upcoming space alien invasion fraud so Biden can avoid debating President Trump in a series of Presidential debates.  I'm just kidding, SpaceNut.  We all know that the space aliens have only come to peacefully protest on Biden's behalf.  If that doesn't pan out, the media can always claim that a giant asteroid is coming to kill us all unless we vote for Biden.

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#1753 2020-08-01 16:58:57

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Coronavirus updates: House Dem tests positive, calls out Republicans

Since the first cases were detected in China in December, the United States has become the worst-affected country, with more than 4.6 million diagnosed cases and at least 153,989 deaths. Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., the chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, has tested positive for COVID-19. Grijalva's diagnosis comes days after he had close contact with Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, at a committee hearing. Gohmert, who refused to wear a mask, tested positive earlier this week. Gohmert recently said in the past few weeks he has worn a mask more. In addition to Grijalva, three House Republicans and several GOP staffers also are self-quarantining after contact with Gohmert.
"Numerous Republican members routinely strut around the Capitol without a mask to selfishly make a political statement at the expense of their colleagues, staff, and their families."

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#1754 2020-08-02 17:33:00

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SpaceNut,

Since Democrats wear masks (mostly around their necks where they do nothing at all), and practice "social distancing" (except in Raul Grijalva's case, according to the story you reposted here), and masks and standing 6 feet from other people are supposed to be effective at preventing the spread of COVID-19, then Raul Grijalva should've been spared from COVID-19, right?

Apparently, virtue signalling (signalling to everyone else that you have no virtue) doesn't prevent disease?  Who knew?  Incidentally, Nancy Pelosi struts around Capitol Hill with her mask around her neck.  Maybe she's worried about messing up that first mask she has painted on her face.

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#1756 2020-08-03 17:23:23

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Will not hold my breath for corona help whether it comes in the form of a bill or from Trump considering unilateral action as stalemate over coronavirus relief continues
aka executive action if Congress fails to act.

How does this help Trump authorizes reduced funding for National Guard coronavirus response through 2020

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#1757 2020-08-08 16:57:54

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The president signs four executive orders Saturday that undercut ongoing stimulus bill negotiations and could have wide-reaching effects for tens of millions of Americans. Trump signs executive orders for $400 a week unemployment benefits, extends payroll tax cuts

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/

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#1758 2020-08-08 18:36:13

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Trump will not believe this as The Russian owner who abandoned the ship full of ammonium nitrate that caused the Beirut explosion has been questioned by police in Cyprus

Grechushkin was the owner of the MV Rhosus, the ship that carried 2,750 tons of explosive ammonium nitrate, before abandoning it in Beirut in 2014.

Those materials were stored in Beirut's port for six years, before they detonated in Tuesday's catastrophic explosion,

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#1759 2020-08-08 20:46:46

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SpaceNut,

Is there any explanation that passes muster as to why the government in charge of that port allowed 2,750 tons of explosives to be stored there for a period of six years?

Beyond TDS, what does something that happened two years before President Trump took office have to do with him?

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#1760 2020-08-09 16:31:48

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Trump aspires to have his image etched on the monument.

Not measuring up and in true form President Donald Trump made multiple egregious false claims about Democrats during the news conference signing with healthcare claims.

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#1761 2020-08-14 17:55:28

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#1762 2020-08-17 19:43:17

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#1763 2020-08-18 11:30:21

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Everyone Else,

Please note that SpaceNut still hasn't articulated what the Lebanese government improperly storing 2,750 tons of explosives in a port facility has to do with President Trump.  This is such a non-sequitur that I'll keep pointing this out until I receive an adequate explanation.

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#1764 2020-08-18 16:31:56

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Trump's friends are the Russians not the enemy adversarial which they have been since the world wars.
Trump would not believe that they are blue if you had photographic proof saying that the cia doctored the image.....
So why would Russia sell that cargo to them?
You are right that it was transported and staged there under other Presidents but did we have an intel about it?

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#1765 2020-08-19 02:45:01

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SpaceNut,

The ship in question has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with President Trump.  Period.  The ship is, or at least was, on planet Earth, and so is President Trump, but unless you're playing your own little game of the Six Degrees of President Trump, then your commentary on that event is a total non-sequitur that only makes any sense in the context of an unhealthy obsession over the man.

You're about to vote for a man who doesn't remember who he is, where he is, who he's married to, who he's currently speaking to, nor what office he's running for, but you spend a significant portion of your daily life obsessing over someone who merely says things you disagree with because it doesn't agree with your inner political monologue.  If you don't think there's something fundamentally absurd about that, then I don't know what to say.  Former Vice President Biden is the very embodiment of everything you claim you detest about President Trump.

The only substantive thing President Trump had to say about the Russians was that it would be great if the two most heavily nuclear-armed nations on planet Earth weren't constantly at each others' throats.  Despite that, thus far President Trump has signed off on delivery of lethal weapons (air defense systems, anti-tank weapons, ammunition, etc) to the Ukrainians to fight the Russians over their invasion of Ossetia (something former President Obama never did, despite every opportunity to do so and support from both Democrats and Republicans for that course of action), he's turned a joint Syrian / Russian air base into a smoking hole in the ground with dozens of Tomahawk cruise missiles (when President Trump says there's a line in the sand, you get bombed into the Stone Age if you cross it), our special forces massacred a group of their own mercenaries / special forces in Syria, and he's signed off on the most restrictive economic sanctions imposed upon Russia to date over their actions in Syria and Ossetia.

We're not on friendly terms with the Russians because we have opposing national interests, plain and simple.  There's no misunderstanding.  However, we don't have to antagonize them or destroy them economically because they're doing a good job of that all on their own with President Putin in charge.  The last time they fell apart, the American tax payers ended up picking up the tab.  I'm not interested in repeating history for a 4th time in less than 100 years, but YMMV.  President Trump doesn't deliberately antagonize the Russians because he's not interested in starting another pointless war with a country that has a deeply depressed economy, with a GDP less than that of the State of California, but home to about a third as many people as we have here in America.  Is that such a bad thing, or do we need to "attack them more" over something that never even happened?

Do you have any idea at all how ridiculous it sounds when someone claims that $100K worth of Facebook advertisements caused people to vote for someone they didn't like?  It sounds about as silly as the claim that a YouTube video nobody had ever heard of caused a bunch of terrorists to destroy our embassy in Benghazi.  I'm quite certain the NFL spends more than that advertising the next football game and they probably get 100 times as many people who are actually interested in the content being advertised, but thus far not one single person has made the claim that the NFL was successful at influencing an election.  If influencing an election really was that easy, then why not spend $100K to get a President to support a national football agenda?

Let's approach this from another direction to see if maybe we can put two and two together.  You're a Russian oligarch or politician (what's the difference?) who has bilked his own people out of billions of dollars and funneled it through US-controlled banks because you're a thief and so are the people who run the financial institutions in the country you live in, so you don't trust your own countrymen to the point that you launder your money through banks controlled by a country that has had a traditionally adversarial relationship with your country.  It would probably be a reasonably good idea not to piss off those people too much at that point, since they quite literally have you by your short hairs, financially speaking.  However, your "master plan" for remaining an oligarch is to antagonize one or both political parties to the point that they seize your assets.  Let's incur the wrath of the people who have all of our money and don't like us very much to begin with.  In what alternate reality do life-long chess players make moves like that?

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#1767 2020-08-20 16:50:35

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SpaceNut,

President Trump fired Steve Bannon some time ago.  As always though, guilty until proven innocent whenever politics is involved.

In other news, you still haven't explained how electing someone to be President who can't remember who he is, where he is, who he's speaking to, or what office he's running for is any better than President Trump.  I'm guessing that's because you can't.

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#1768 2020-08-20 19:36:22

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Birds of the feather flock together How many Trump advisers have been criminally charged? Manafort, Stone and Steve Bannon makes 7

Six of the aides were charged as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russia's interference in the 2016 election.

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#1769 2020-08-20 21:11:54

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SpaceNut,

How many Trump advisors were actually charged with doing something illegal at the time they were employed by him?

Michael Flynn's case was dropped by the prosecutor's office for lack of evidence, yet the Democrat judge is still demanding that someone prosecute him.  Since when do judges get to decide who the DA's office prosecutes?

Why wasn't former President Obama's former treasury secretary, Timothy Geithner, also charged with tax evasion the way Manafort was when it was discovered that he owed back-taxes to the IRS?  Why didn't he get prosecuted for committing the same crime?

Why wasn't former AG Eric Holder charged with lying to Congress and obstruction of justice for concealing records related to Operation Fast and Furious from Congress when BATFE sold guns to drug cartel members?

Why wasn't Hillary Clinton charged with theft of classified information from the US State Department and lying to Congress about the theft of classified materials after FBI Director Comey said that the FBI found evidence that she did those things on national television?

Why wasn't Lois Lerner charged with destruction of evidence related to her office's cover-up after their attempt to withhold tax exempt status from non-profit Republican political action organizations?

You're never going to get other people to believe you actually care about these things if justice only applies to people you don't like or people from one political party.  That not justice, that's "my rules for you and I don't have any rules".

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#1770 2020-08-24 17:25:52

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Strong arming intimidation tactics being used when rioters resort to flame (put the fire out and capture the perpetrators later) when public protests ask for answers...Wisconsin activates National Guard after protests over Jacob Blake shooting

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#1771 2020-08-28 08:10:04

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SpaceNut,

Nearly the entirety of the initial reporting about the Jacob Blake shooting was made-up by the media and is fact-free.  What you're being told via mass media (television and internet) is intended to support their communist takeover agenda.  The racial division and rioting we're witnessing is literally taken from the communist playbook for internal weakening and subsequent take over of the US, circa 1960s.  Many people are undoubtedly ignorant of their own history, but I tend to notice these things.  The communists identified historical racial issues as a weak point to use to attack the US, since any external military or economic takeover is functionally impossible.

Jacob Blake threatened someone at a gas station with his knife
Jacob Blake stole the car keys of the woman who called the Police, he wasn't trying to break up any fights
Jacob Blake was a violent convicted felon
Jacob Blake had a warrant for his arrest after suspicion of committing another violent felony
Jacob Blake resisted arrest and the officers involved tried to tase him before shooting him, but the taser had no effect
Jacob Blake tried to enter a car containing children after ignoring repeated verbal commands to stop and drop what he had in his hands by Police with their guns drawn on him

Those are important little details that the people who peddle the false narratives that leftists buy into, hook, line, and sinker, left out when they "told their story" on national television.  Since felony convictions and arrest warrants are public information, anyone who thinks / believes that I'm lying to them about the circumstances surrounding Jacob Blake's arrest can easily "prove me wrong" by going online and looking up this information.  We can debate endlessly about what you think the Police could've or should've done, but since this violent convicted felon was arrested on a warrant for suspicion of committing another violent felony, but nobody has an intellectual "leg to stand" on with respect to the criminal behavior of the suspect (Jacob Blake), presuming they're not advocates for criminal behavior, nor the opportunist street thugs who have used media lies as a convenient public distraction / personal excuse for perpetrating more felonies against their fellow Americans.

Jacob Blake was objectively not "just another innocent black man gunned down by the Police".  Police don't randomly show up to shoot people with a different skin color.  A very few Police Officers are undoubtedly capricious or racist or even criminal in nature themselves, but it is patently false to assert that all officers are capricious or racist or criminal in nature.  Nobody is above reproach, but the overwhelming majority of the time, the behavior of officers is a direct reaction to the criminal behavior of the people they encounter during the course of executing their duties as public servants.  If suspects treat the officers with a modicum of civility, then far more often than not, you'll find that officers are more than willing to return the favor.  Police are nearly always called by people who have the misfortune of dealing with the dregs of society, meaning people like Jacob Blake.  They frequently deal with the same people, over and over and over again, thanks to our "catch and release" justice system.  Jacob Blake was one such "character", to the detriment of himself, his children, and American civil society.

When the toxicology report comes back, I'm guessing that we're going to find out that Jacob Blake was also loaded up with illegal drugs, just like George Floyd was.  People who are stoned out of their minds tend to make egregiously bad decisions and often become more aggressive or violent than they otherwise would be.  The Police are under no obligation to treat full grown men with kid gloves, merely because they refuse to comply with very basic commands, little different than a toddler throwing a temper tantrum.

Some people have problems accepting that there is such a thing as governmental authority and that disobeying lawful commands to stop what you're doing and comply with Police and Court orders frequently escalates to the use of force, including deadly force, to enforce those orders.  If a Police Officer tells you that you're under arrest for an outstanding Court-issued warrant for your arrest, that doesn't mean you can ignore it and do as you please.  Unfortunately, a growing number of people think that they can behave however they please without consequence, despite all evidence that nothing could be further from the truth.  The legitimacy of governmental authority is ultimately derived from the consent of the governed, but the consent of the violent criminal element within our society (less than 1%, thankfully) is not required for lawful commands to carry the force of law with them.

American civil society will not tolerate having their lives dictated to them by the violent criminal element.  If the Police are ordered to sit and watch the burning and the looting and the shooting, then you will have vigilante street justice because reasonable people will not tolerate street hoodlums or communist thugs burning down their homes and businesses over interactions between the government and the people.

For those who are grossly unfamiliar with close combat tactics, whenever deadly force is used, the presumed intent is to kill and the presumed trigger for the use of deadly force is someone doing something that constituted an immediate threat of serious bodily injury or death requiring an immediate in-kind response.  If the person who deadly force was used against manages to survive anyway, that was either because they stopped doing whatever it was that caused deadly force to be used against them or, far more likely, the result of hastily and poorly executed combat tactics.  As deadly force pertains to the use of firearms, you are taught to continue firing your weapon until the person you're firing at is no longer a threat to your life or the lives of others ("stops moving", in grossly over-simplified terms) or is dead.  In many cases, especially if someone turns their back to you, you can't easily visually identify when the person you fired at decided to stop doing whatever it was that they were doing that caused you to shoot them in the first place (because you can no longer see if they have a weapon in their hands).  So, whenever someone quips, "I can't believe the Police shot that guy 4 or 5 or 7 or 20 times", I look upon that and think to myself, "I can't believe you are so ignorant about the use of deadly force".  It doesn't matter if the number of bullets fired is 1, 10, or 100, if that's what it takes to stop the threat.  There have been many, many criminals and enemy combatants who received fatal gunshot wounds who killed at least one other person before they died of their wounds.  The Police are under no obligation to allow the suspect to use them for target practice to determine whether or not the person they just shot decided to comply with their commands to surrender.  In short, real life close combat is not some modern day jousting tournament wherein a pair of competitors agree to a set of pre-defined rules to follow, one of which would have to be to wait to see what effect an attack had on their opponent after it's delivered, prior to continuing with the next attack aimed at stopping the threat.

Equally ignorant is the famous "Well, he only had a knife, so why did the Police shoot him 10 times?" non-argument.  A knife is a deadly weapon, so if you threaten an officer with it, then they will shoot you more often than not.  Once again, the Police are not rag dolls for criminals to beat on / stab / shoot as they please.  Whether you agree with that statement or not, the officers involved are under no legal obligation to needlessly subject themselves to abusive behavior from violent criminals.  An average person with a knife can run at least 21 feet and stab someone in the time it takes to draw and fire a holstered pistol or revolver, so when an officer is threatened by someone who "just a knife in their hands", guns get drawn and 9 times out of 10, the perpetrator gets shot if they refuse to drop the knife and surrender.  Again, in real life (it's almost as if there's a running theme here), most people don't react to being shot as if they've been struck by lightning and many times they're completely unaware that they've been shot, even if they've been mortally wounded.  The same applies to knife wounds.  Ignoring all illegal drugs, which so many criminals are high on at the time of arrest these days, adrenalin is remarkably powerful.

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#1772 2020-08-28 09:53:55

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The call for officers for what seems to be a domestic issue that girlfriend stops cooperating with once they arrive https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat … 438802001/

If you subdue a person by teaser and can not cuff him when its doing its thing then there is a problem with training.
If the teaser disorients then he is confused as it becomes a point of trying to take his kids home as to why he would walk around from passenger side to drivers side and is shot, Knife was found in vehicle on the floorboards not in the hand or open.

Less than three minutes to nearly ending up dead, paralyzed and hand cuff to bed in a coma induced to aid healing....

Fact checks

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#1773 2020-08-28 12:56:58

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SpaceNut,

With each new post about such topics, you further prove my point about how little most people know about close combat.  You assume that a taser is some kind of "wonder weapon" that causes instant incapacitation.  While a taser will incapacitate most people most of the time, just like any other technology, tasers can and do fail to function as advertised, even when properly employed by the responding officer.  There are videos on YouTube of people who are not high on drugs, nor amped up on adrenalin and in a murderous rage, nor are they 400 pound body builders who represent less than 1/10th of 1% of the population, who are shot with tasers, more than once in a few instances, who then go on to rip the barbs out of their skin and keep coming at the person who fired the taser and take that person to the ground.

You're more enamored with your ideas about how you want things to work than how they actually work.  Close combat in real life is very fast and messy, tasers and firearms and other weapons frequently don't work the way they do in Hollyweird movies, and it's frequently over with in a matter of seconds.  Your "well the cop should've done this, that, and the other" nonsense has no bearing on reality.  It's just another inaccurate idea you have stuck in your head that demonstrates little to no practical experience with close combat using weapons.

Jacob Blake decided he didn't want to go back to prison over another sexual assault charge, so he decided to walk away from Police and ignore their commands to surrender himself over his arrest warrant.  He was tased after he refused the first request to surrender himself over his arrest warrant and threatened the officers.  After he still didn't comply with commands to stop, after being given a chance to voluntarily comply without any use of force, and after being tased for refusing to comply, on his way to a vehicle containing children he was again given multiple commands to stop and surrender himself.  Mr Blake continued to refuse those commands as well.  Since Mr Blake verbally threatened to kill the responding officers, he was shot before he could retrieve his weapon from his vehicle to carry out his threat, or to hold the children in the vehicle hostage.

This "you're not the boss of me, I'm the boss of me" childishness only works for little kids who have parents who shouldn't be parents.  When the Police tell you they have a warrant for your arrest and that you're coming with them, then you're coming with them.  Period.  If you resist, they will justifiably assume a convicted violent felon suspected of committing another violent criminal act is an imminent threat to society and they will use whatever force they deem necessary to subdue you to bring you before a Court of Law or to end the threat, up to and including deadly force.  If you want to live alone on your own little island, then you can behave in whatever manner is most pleasing to you.  When other people are involved, as is the case for American society, then you agree to abide by the rules as long as you live here or suffer the consequences if you don't.  This is very well established legal precedent for everything I just stated, as it pertains to apprehending wanted convicted felons who refuse to surrender themselves to the Police.

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#1774 2020-08-28 17:55:09

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Its still seen by biased eyes as March on Washington 2020: Protesters Gathered to Demand Racial Justice

Blake had a warrant out for his arrest in connection to a domestic abuse call earlier this year but that felony warrants for his arrest from crimes he committed prior to the shooting incident have been vacated, and authorities are no longer guarding Blake at the hospital.

crime took place May 3 and it took until  July 6 to file criminal charges all the while until aug to find...

Blake's children, ranging in age from 3 to 8 years, watched the shooting from inside a car their father was stepping into as the officer opened fire. The questions from family and children;
"Papa, why did they shoot my daddy in the back?" "Baby, they weren't supposed to shoot you at all,"


The eldest Blake, who recalled his father's participation in the civil rights movement, expressed gratitude for the wave of protests among American athletes this week, from the National Basketball Association to the National Football League to Major League Baseball.

But he voiced opposition to violence and looting in the wake of police brutality and racism.

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#1775 2020-08-28 20:48:52

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Remember that tax holiday stay until the beginning of next year and pledge to make it permanent if re-elected...well the leave employers on the hook

Deferred taxes ultimately must be paid by April 30, according to the guidance and it appears to put the onus on employers to collect any taxes due after the holiday ends..After that date, penalties, interest and "additions to tax" will begin to accrue.

Currently, employers and employees share responsibility for a 12.4% levy that funds Social Security and a 2.9% tax to support Medicare. Social Security taxes are subject to an annually adjusted wage cap ($137,700 for 2020), but Medicare taxes are assessed beyond that threshold.

In the end run a temporary amount paid for in future pay raise loses.

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