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#701 2017-03-08 07:45:42

Tom Kalbfus
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Re: Politics

kbd512 wrote:

SpaceNut,

How exactly is President Trump connected to terrorists through a hotel he built, or tried to build, in Azerbaijan?  Is there any evidence or just a lot of accusations from anonymous sources and innuendo from political partisans?

I don't have a crystal ball, but I have a small prediction to make.  We'll all be dead before there's any evidence to support the accusations.

There also seems to be some attempt by the Democrats to relive the stupidity of McCarthyism.  What better paper dragon for Dem Quixote to chase around on his donkey than those evil Russians?  We can still elect Hillary in four years to sell them some more Uranium.

It's obvious to me that since the people thumbed their noses at the Democrat Party, the Democrat media has doubled down on the same tactics that led to the defeat of the Democrat candidate for President.  I'm hoping that they keep after it.  The more stuff the media lies about or mis-represents and the more obvious they make their political partisanship, the better.  If they can't stand four years of President Trump, then let's give 'em eight years of President Trump.

You know, why doesn't Trump talk to the President of Fox News? Maybe he could arrange for them to receive a broadcast license, so Fox News can go over the airwaves instead of one needing a cable or a direct satellite subscription to receive Fox News. You see left wing propaganda is free, but you have to pay for Fox News! Fox News has plenty of commercials, why can't they be funded entirely by the commercial slots they sell? It always disturbed me that whenever I go to an airport there is CNN but no Fox News. A foreigner would land at a US airport and immediately be confronted with a television screen displaying CNN and its rants against the President of the United States, do we really need to be showing foreigners this? I bet if I landed in Moscow, there wouldn't be RNN bashing Putin! The Conservative Media needs greater penetration to balance out the lefty libs on the airwaves, maybe with the Republicans in charge of all three branches of government, we can arrange to make this happen.

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#702 2017-03-08 08:37:35

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Re: Politics

Tom, I don't think NASA actually wanted to keep flying Shuttle, so much as they were required by Congress to keep flying it...


"I guarantee you that at some point, everything's going to go south on you, and you're going to say, 'This is it, this is how I end.' Now you can either accept that, or you can get to work." - Mark Watney

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#703 2017-03-08 21:02:08

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Re: Politics

Trumpcare

bill will increase insurance costs by an average of $1,542  per year. In 2020, when the Republican tax credits go into effect, Vox estimates that the costs will increase by $2,409 per year. premium increases are particularly bad for older individuals between the ages 55 and 64. Their costs would be $5,269 if the bill was in effect today. The costs are worse in 2020, when the tax credits go into effect to supposedly help with insurance costs. By then, older Americans will end up paying $6,971 more per year for health insurance. People with incomes below the poverty line would see their costs rise by $2,945 today, and $4,061 in 2020.

Trump Russia Censor Media

The claim comes from former National Security Agency (NSA) analyst John Schindler. Schindler sent out a tweet on Tuesday that claimed the Trump administration is working to target the US press.

According to Schindler, Russian intelligence has teamed up with the White House help target US journalists. He bases his claim off of anonymous but reliable sources from the US intelligence community.

The Trump team has made no secret of the fact that they hate the media. White House Chief strategist Steve Bannon and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson have both expressed their disdain for the mainstream press.

Russia’s alleged involvement in Trump’s efforts to fight the press takes this to a whole new level. If it really is true that Russian intelligence is working with Trump to target reporters, then it’s certainly treason.

Talk about stupid Trump admin weighing cuts to Coast Guard, TSA to fund border wall,Transportation Security Administration, Secret Service and FEMA -- including cuts to several notable national security and emergency response initiatives -- to help fund the president’s border wall and deportation efforts.

The cuts to the Coast Guard would “stand in dramatic contrast to the President’s stated goals of securing our border and reducing the flow of illegal drugs. These cuts would “reduce our readiness and effectiveness in preventing potential attacks and responding to disasters.”

Hearing Into Trump’s Russian Ties SCHEDULED, Less Than TWO Weeks Away and just like in the election Trump was saying that he would not accept a Hillary win, Sean Spicer Says Donald Trump WILL NOT Accept Wiretap Investigation Results....

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#704 2017-03-08 22:56:04

Tom Kalbfus
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Re: Politics

Terraformer wrote:

Tom, I don't think NASA actually wanted to keep flying Shuttle, so much as they were required by Congress to keep flying it...

the Shuttle made the waste less obvious to taxpayers, instead of seeing a giant rocket getting discarded with each mission, like we had with the Saturn V, the same four shuttles got reused, they had names. Congress was happy to spend the money creating jobs for their districts without calling too much attention to the waste caused by all those expended rocket boosters they were building. the Shuttle looked a little like an airliner, and offered the promise of cheap everyday access to space, but it was an illusion. Congress operates on illusions, there was for instance the War on Poverty, that Johnson declared, then thing was that no matter how much we spent, the poverty rate did not go down, but instead of people calling attention to the fact that it was not working, they just used the lack of progress to be a excuse to spend more money. The Shuttle was mush like this, it was a sop to space enthusiasts, the cost was initially kept under raps, NASA launched some commercial satellites at artificially low rates, out of the cargo bay of the shuttle. This went until the Challenger disaster.

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#705 2017-03-08 22:57:45

Tom Kalbfus
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Re: Politics

SpaceNut wrote:

Trumpcare

bill will increase insurance costs by an average of $1,542  per year. In 2020, when the Republican tax credits go into effect, Vox estimates that the costs will increase by $2,409 per year. premium increases are particularly bad for older individuals between the ages 55 and 64. Their costs would be $5,269 if the bill was in effect today. The costs are worse in 2020, when the tax credits go into effect to supposedly help with insurance costs. By then, older Americans will end up paying $6,971 more per year for health insurance. People with incomes below the poverty line would see their costs rise by $2,945 today, and $4,061 in 2020.

Trump Russia Censor Media

The claim comes from former National Security Agency (NSA) analyst John Schindler. Schindler sent out a tweet on Tuesday that claimed the Trump administration is working to target the US press.

According to Schindler, Russian intelligence has teamed up with the White House help target US journalists. He bases his claim off of anonymous but reliable sources from the US intelligence community.

The Trump team has made no secret of the fact that they hate the media. White House Chief strategist Steve Bannon and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson have both expressed their disdain for the mainstream press.

Russia’s alleged involvement in Trump’s efforts to fight the press takes this to a whole new level. If it really is true that Russian intelligence is working with Trump to target reporters, then it’s certainly treason.

Talk about stupid Trump admin weighing cuts to Coast Guard, TSA to fund border wall,Transportation Security Administration, Secret Service and FEMA -- including cuts to several notable national security and emergency response initiatives -- to help fund the president’s border wall and deportation efforts.

The cuts to the Coast Guard would “stand in dramatic contrast to the President’s stated goals of securing our border and reducing the flow of illegal drugs. These cuts would “reduce our readiness and effectiveness in preventing potential attacks and responding to disasters.”

Hearing Into Trump’s Russian Ties SCHEDULED, Less Than TWO Weeks Away and just like in the election Trump was saying that he would not accept a Hillary win, Sean Spicer Says Donald Trump WILL NOT Accept Wiretap Investigation Results....

At least he's looking for cuts!

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#706 2017-03-09 22:13:53

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Re: Politics

Deported US vets in Mexico hope for return under Trump govt

After manning a machine gun on a combat helicopter as a U.S. Marine during the liberation of Kuwait, he had  migrated to Lynwood, California, illegally at age 12.

So how are you allowed to serve in the US military without being an american citizen?

Flynn lobbied Turkey
President Donald Trump says that he was not aware that his former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, had worked to further the interests of the government of Turkey before appointing him to the White House.

The director of the Office of Government Ethics said he is "concerned" over the White House's decision not to discipline Kellyanne Conway for promoting Ivanka Trump's brand in a television appearance. Kellyanne Conway promoted the Ivanka Trump's brand which does violate a federal ethics rule prohibiting "using one's official position to endorse any product or service." The claim is that the Office of Government Ethics cannot impose disciplinary action on an executive branch employee. The White House's is declining to discipline Conway and saying she "acted inadvertently" and had no "nefarious motive or intent to benefit personally."

All I can say is wow

There are new reports this week that major Republican leaders in the U.S. House and Senate have had enough with Trump’s dishonesty. Graham is now asking Trump to provide information to back up his claims that former President Barack Obama ordered a wiretap on Trump. Republican, Senator Susan Collins, said she wants to start scheduling hearings to get to the bottom of the Trump-Russia connections and is open to further actions to get Trump’s unreleased tax records. The fact that Republicans are starting to talk tough about Trump’s scandals is a clear sign that Trump may be removed from office before his term is up. Trump’s Propaganda Director Worked With Pro-Russia Hacker In Anti-Hillary Plot with Stone in direct contact with the pro-Russia hacker known as “Guccifer 2.0” and helped coordinate the illegal leaks that tarnished Clinton’s campaign before last November’s election. Toward the end of the campaign, the Trump campaign cut its official connection to Stone and tried to keep it’s distance. Rep. Gwen Moore (D-WI): “I am not in favor of the wall, but if there is a wall, then I do not want the United States of America to pay for the wall,”. Illegal crossings are down at the U.S.-Mexico border, removing some of the justification for erecting the wall “billions of dollars on a wall is not the right way to proceed” to secure the border. 

Despite their rhetoric, Republicans are trying to hide Trump’s Russia connections and bury conflict of interest investigations. Republicans want to keep any investigation from getting even a moment’s notice in public —because protecting Trump is now their number one priority. Republicans want Americans to believe they are honestly investigating Donald Trump’s treasonous activities. But make no mistake, they are determined to keep the public in the dark about the evidence the CIA is providing.

Calling for investigations has become a preferred tactic of the Trump administration as it seeks to change the subject, deflect attention from the president's unproven claims or muddy the waters when facing criticism. The House and Senate intelligence committees are both looking into Trump’s wiretap claims as part of their larger investigations into Russia’s meddling in the presidential election. The judiciary panels in both chambers are also seeking information from the FBI on the issue.

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#707 2017-03-09 23:31:32

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Re: Politics

FBI investigation continues into 'odd' computer link between Russian bank and Trump Organization

Internet data shows that last summer, a computer server owned by Russia-based Alfa Bank repeatedly looked up the contact information for a computer server being used by the Trump Organization -- far more than other companies did, representing 80% of all lookups to the Trump server.

But for those who have studied the data, the activity could suggest an intent to communicate by email during a period of time when ties between the Trump Organization and Russia are being closely scrutinized because of Russia's alleged involvement in hacking the emails of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign chief John Podesta.

These leaked records show that Alfa Bank servers repeatedly looked up the unique internet address of a particular Trump Organization computer server in the United States. What puzzled them was why a Russian bank was repeatedly looking up the contact information for mail1.trump-email.com.

Sounds more like its got a virus......The Russian Flu....

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#708 2017-03-10 10:53:54

Tom Kalbfus
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Re: Politics

SpaceNut wrote:

Deported US vets in Mexico hope for return under Trump govt

After manning a machine gun on a combat helicopter as a U.S. Marine during the liberation of Kuwait, he had  migrated to Lynwood, California, illegally at age 12.

So how are you allowed to serve in the US military without being an american citizen?

Flynn lobbied Turkey
President Donald Trump says that he was not aware that his former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, had worked to further the interests of the government of Turkey before appointing him to the White House.

The director of the Office of Government Ethics said he is "concerned" over the White House's decision not to discipline Kellyanne Conway for promoting Ivanka Trump's brand in a television appearance. Kellyanne Conway promoted the Ivanka Trump's brand which does violate a federal ethics rule prohibiting "using one's official position to endorse any product or service." The claim is that the Office of Government Ethics cannot impose disciplinary action on an executive branch employee. The White House's is declining to discipline Conway and saying she "acted inadvertently" and had no "nefarious motive or intent to benefit personally."

All I can say is wow

There are new reports this week that major Republican leaders in the U.S. House and Senate have had enough with Trump’s dishonesty. Graham is now asking Trump to provide information to back up his claims that former President Barack Obama ordered a wiretap on Trump.

Why should he? The Democrats aren't backing up their claims about Trump and the Russians, and those claims are based on spying on the Trump campaign by the US government under Barack Obama. All Trump is saying is that if that is so, then he wants an investigation into the abuse of executive power in spying on a political opposition leader, and guess what, now the Media is denying their claims and saying they don't have evidence, so now why did they report on a Trump connection to the Russians if now they claim to have no evidence, before they did, and if they did then someone broke the law and Trump wants an investigation into it. Very simple actually. The Democrats and the Media have declared war on the Trump Presidency, and Trump wants a truce, he is showing his hand and what he will do if the Democrats and the Media continue with their attacks! Trump has indicated that he's rather work with them than go to war, same as he'd rather work with the Russians than go to war with them as well. Many of the Democrats that are now attacking him have been recipients of Trumps political campaign contributions, this includes Senator Chuck Schumer, and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. These people are just show what sort of ingrates that are for conducting these attacks on him!


Republican, Senator Susan Collins, said she wants to start scheduling hearings to get to the bottom of the Trump-Russia connections and is open to further actions to get Trump’s unreleased tax records. The fact that Republicans are starting to talk tough about Trump’s scandals is a clear sign that Trump may be removed from office before his term is up.

Wishful thinking. If Senator John McCain and Susan Collins want to quit the Senate they can just retire, they don't have to lose an election! The Republicans that voted for McCain and Collins are not going to vote for them again if they turn on their own party and attack their own President. Will Democrats vote for them? I doubt it, who would vote for a Benedict Arnold, they can't be trusted, if they betray their own, they will betray others as well! Better to vote for a liberal Democrat than a turncoat Republican!

Trump’s Propaganda Director Worked With Pro-Russia Hacker In Anti-Hillary Plot with Stone in direct contact with the pro-Russia hacker known as “Guccifer 2.0” and helped coordinate the illegal leaks that tarnished Clinton’s campaign before last November’s election. Toward the end of the campaign, the Trump campaign cut its official connection to Stone and tried to keep it’s distance. Rep. Gwen Moore (D-WI): “I am not in favor of the wall, but if there is a wall, then I do not want the United States of America to pay for the wall,”. Illegal crossings are down at the U.S.-Mexico border, removing some of the justification for erecting the wall “billions of dollars on a wall is not the right way to proceed” to secure the border.

 
How do you know? has someone been spying on the Trump Campaign? I think maybe President Trump should get to the bottom of this and call on a Congressional investigation, what do you think?

Despite their rhetoric, Republicans are trying to hide Trump’s Russia connections and bury conflict of interest investigations. Republicans want to keep any investigation from getting even a moment’s notice in public —because protecting Trump is now their number one priority. Republicans want Americans to believe they are honestly investigating Donald Trump’s treasonous activities. But make no mistake, they are determined to keep the public in the dark about the evidence the CIA is providing.

You ever hear of Senator Joseph McCarthy, those are his tactics? Calling people treasonous without proof, I thought the Democrats were above that!

Calling for investigations has become a preferred tactic of the Trump administration as it seeks to change the subject, deflect attention from the president's unproven claims or muddy the waters when facing criticism. The House and Senate intelligence committees are both looking into Trump’s wiretap claims as part of their larger investigations into Russia’s meddling in the presidential election. The judiciary panels in both chambers are also seeking information from the FBI on the issue.

Well do you want to call a truce on both sides? Donald Trump didn't start this war after all, all he did was win a Presidential election!

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#709 2017-03-10 20:05:15

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Re: Politics

Try again as A lawyer for Michael Flynn told the Trump transition team long before President Trump’s inauguration that Flynn might have to register as a foreign agent because of his work on behalf of Turkey, the Associated Press and USA Today have reported. Trump KNEW Flynn Was a Foreign Agent; He DIDN’T CARE.

False claim of President Trump’s ludicrous accusation that his residence was wiretapped by the Obama administration during the 2016 elections with the House Intelligence: ‘NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER’ to wiretapping of Trump..

The president is willing to destroy the very agencies that actually keep our country safe by a 14% cut to the Coast Guard’s … budget and 11% cuts to both the T.S.A. and FEMA....way to go with letting down the water defenses on illegal drug smuggling, people trafficing or illegal imagrants and then do not wait for help to come after that big storm or tornado or from a huricane as Fema will not be coming....

Trump’s five impeachable offenses are:

1. Accusing his predecessor, President Barack Obama, of wiretapping his phones in Trump Tower in the run-up to the election.
2. Using the U.S.’s relationship with foreign governments to personally profit, through his Trump International Hotel chain.
3. Violating the First Amendment (and its protection of religious freedom) through his Muslim travel ban.
4. Violating the First Amendment by labeling the press “the enemy of the American people” and curbing freedom of press.
5. Violating Article III Section 3 of the Constitution (“treason”) — there is growing evidence that he may have colluded with Russia to win the election.
More to come I am sure....as DON’T ASK About Russia! Reporter MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell THROWN OUT of State Dept. is sensorship

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#710 2017-03-10 21:16:40

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Re: Politics

Roger Stone, President Trump's former campaign advisor, on Friday admitted to having private conversations with a hacker who helped leak information from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) during last year's campaign.

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#711 2017-03-10 23:30:17

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Re: Politics

SpaceNut wrote:

Try again as A lawyer for Michael Flynn told the Trump transition team long before President Trump’s inauguration that Flynn might have to register as a foreign agent because of his work on behalf of Turkey, the Associated Press and USA Today have reported. Trump KNEW Flynn Was a Foreign Agent; He DIDN’T CARE.

Flynn was never a foreign agent and the intelligence agencies you like quoting said so.  Your claim is demonstrably false using sources you like to cite.

SpaceNut wrote:

False claim of President Trump’s ludicrous accusation that his residence was wiretapped by the Obama administration during the 2016 elections with the House Intelligence: ‘NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER’ to wiretapping of Trump..

There was a FISA court order to obtain records from Donald Trump.  Do court orders for wiretapping not count as evidence?  Again, your claim is demonstrably false using sources you like to cite.

SpaceNut wrote:

The president is willing to destroy the very agencies that actually keep our country safe by a 14% cut to the Coast Guard’s … budget and 11% cuts to both the T.S.A. and FEMA....way to go with letting down the water defenses on illegal drug smuggling, people trafficing or illegal imagrants and then do not wait for help to come after that big storm or tornado or from a huricane as Fema will not be coming....

The OMB budget is a proposal, which would normally be equivalent to an idea if President Obama was still President.  Now that President Trump is President, it's President Trump's attempt to destroy "safety".  Whether or not you "feel safe" has nothing to do with real physical well-being.

I seem to recall reading that the Coast Guard seized a record 416,600lbs of drugs last year.  The overall quantity seized from illegal aliens was more than 5,200,000lbs.  It's a significant contribution from the Coast Guard.  The bulk of the drugs come from Mexican illegal aliens over land through our porous southern border.  I'm sure they only want to come here and achieve the American Dream... by selling crack to kids.

TSA is security theater, as opposed to real physical security that comes from profiling those peace-loving muslims who like to run airplanes into buildings.  Nobody's grandmother needs to be groped in front of an audience to achieve real physical security.  A few years back some dingus made a bomb using materials gathered from gift shops at the airport.  It didn't go over well, but proved how stupid the entire show is.

The notion that FEMA does anything to "keep this country safe" is laughable at best.  After Hurricane Ike yours truly went up and down our block with an axe and hand saw.  I drug all the fallen limbs and trees out of the street to clear the roads.  When I arrived at the last tree to clear, one of my neighbors decided to help me drag it out of the street.  Everyone else stood around and stared like they were transported to the moon or something.  After that experience, I learned to talk to my neighbors more often.  They're more likely to help you move heavy things out of the street instead of watching you do it.

I never saw a HPD Officer, except on their way to the poorer neighborhoods a few blocks away.  The son of the woman who took care of our daughter while my wife was at work was a newly minted HPD officer at the time.  He described his experiences over there with one word- awful.  At night when people decided to roam around in violation of the city curfew, there were no Police to be found.  Thankfully, my two best friends, Sam Colt and Eugene Stoner, helped me look after my family.

Approximately a week after the storm, someone from FEMA stopped by and wanted to give my wife an MRE.  She laughed at the woman and told her we didn't need it.  After life under the commies in Viet Nam, momma was smart enough to stockpile some food and water for a rainy day... or rainy and windy day in this case.

SpaceNut wrote:

Trump’s five impeachable offenses are:

Accusations don't amount to impeachable offenses.

SpaceNut wrote:

1. Accusing his predecessor, President Barack Obama, of wiretapping his phones in Trump Tower in the run-up to the election.

A FISA court surveilled President Trump's aides, and by way of connection President Trump if you have the slightest clue about how surveillance works, whereupon President Obama was provided this information, and this was confirmed by the people who executed the surveillance activities.  Telling the truth is now a revolutionary act.

SpaceNut wrote:

2. Using the U.S.’s relationship with foreign governments to personally profit, through his Trump International Hotel chain.

Legal matters are decided by courts, not propaganda from political partisans.

SpaceNut wrote:

3. Violating the First Amendment (and its protection of religious freedom) through his Muslim travel ban.

The legal right to enter this country from another country is determined by the Executive Branch, not the First Amendment.  Non-citizens do not have any constitutional protections and there is no supporting legal opinion upheld by our courts supporting your claim.

SpaceNut wrote:

4. Violating the First Amendment by labeling the press “the enemy of the American people” and curbing freedom of press.

The President never did any such thing.  If you're going to quote President Trump, it's probably a good idea to quote what he actually said rather than what a media source printed.

SpaceNut wrote:

5. Violating Article III Section 3 of the Constitution (“treason”) — there is growing evidence that he may have colluded with Russia to win the election.

From information obtained from their wire taps, our counterintelligence agents at the FBI disagree with you.

SpaceNut wrote:

More to come I am sure....as DON’T ASK About Russia! Reporter MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell THROWN OUT of State Dept. is sensorship

It's amusing how that First Amendment that liberals claim to love so much is somehow criminal when it opposes their agenda.  I don't recall anyone in the Obama Administration who was ever prosecuted for denying other peoples' 1A rights using the IRS.  Why do liberals make such a concerted effort to suppress dissenting opinions?  Are their arguments really that weak?

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#712 2017-03-11 08:08:32

Tom Kalbfus
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Re: Politics

SpaceNut wrote:

Try again as A lawyer for Michael Flynn told the Trump transition team long before President Trump’s inauguration that Flynn might have to register as a foreign agent because of his work on behalf of Turkey, the Associated Press and USA Today have reported. Trump KNEW Flynn Was a Foreign Agent; He DIDN’T CARE.

False claim of President Trump’s ludicrous accusation that his residence was wiretapped by the Obama administration during the 2016 elections with the House Intelligence: ‘NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER’ to wiretapping of Trump..

The president is willing to destroy the very agencies that actually keep our country safe by a 14% cut to the Coast Guard’s … budget and 11% cuts to both the T.S.A. and FEMA....way to go with letting down the water defenses on illegal drug smuggling, people trafficing or illegal imagrants and then do not wait for help to come after that big storm or tornado or from a huricane as Fema will not be coming....

Trump’s five impeachable offenses are:

1. Accusing his predecessor, President Barack Obama, of wiretapping his phones in Trump Tower in the run-up to the election.
Obviously Trump is an old fashioned kind of guy, basically what he means is the CIA was hacking into his computer systems and turning his devices into listening and recording devices, cell phones and the like, and they were doing that with the Russian Ambassador as well, and if anyone talks with the Russian Ambassador, they are accused of all sorts of evil things. You know the Soviets used to arrest their own citizens for talking to an American, as it was automatically assumed they were being disloyal to the Soviet Union if they did so without permission. Trump is doing precisely the same as they're doing to him, presuming someone guilty until proven innocent. The fact that someone talked to the Russian Ambassador is not an impeachable offense, the rest is unproven speculation by an overactive left wing media mind!

2. Using the U.S.’s relationship with foreign governments to personally profit, through his Trump International Hotel chain.
What's the alternative? A Russian Ambassador checks into the Trump Hotel, and the hotel employee at the desk says, "Sorry we can't help you, our employer is running for President so we need to discriminate against all Russians looking for a hotel room!" Considering that it was a Democrat that gave the Russians the secret of the atomic bomb, it was a democrat that allowed the Russians to hold onto Eastern Europe after World War II. Harry S. Truman could have driven the Soviets out of Europe and he did not! It was the Democrats who got us involved in the Vietnam War and then undermined support of that war after Nixon became President! It was the Democrats who cut our military during the Cold War in the 1970s and allowed the Soviets to achieve numerical superiority in both missiles and conventional forces! The Soviets had at best and economy only half the size of the United States, so this was a deliberate decision! We could have matched the Soviets gun for gun, bullet for bullet, soldier for soldier if we wanted to, but it was he Democrats who neglected out military during that time, so they should be the last ones playing the role of Senator Joseph McCarthy vs Donald Trump!

3. Violating the First Amendment (and its protection of religious freedom) through his Muslim travel ban.
It was not a Muslim Travel Ban, it was a ban against immigration from Seven countries, Jimmy Carter enacted a similar ban against Iranian citizens. German and Japanese citizens weren't allowed to immigrate to the United States during World War II. The First Amendment does not guarantee a foreign citizen's right to immigrate to the United States, that is not an expression of free speech  or freedom of religion. If a particular religion declares war on us, we don't have to allow them to come to the United States in order to kill American citizens either.


4. Violating the First Amendment by labeling the press “the enemy of the American people” and curbing freedom of press.
Trump did no such thing. Just calling the press "the enemy of the American people" is Donald Trump exercising his First Amendment rights to say what he wants, he hasn't arrested anyone for saying what they want. The President is under no obligation to talk to any reporters he doesn't like, they are not being arrested for their false reporting, but the President doesn't have to give them access to the White House either! There are many news media, and they all can't fit into the press conference room. Trump has no room for false reporting and fake news by people trying to libel and smear him.

5. Violating Article III Section 3 of the Constitution (“treason”) — there is growing evidence that he may have colluded with Russia to win the election.
There is no evidence only innuendo and false reporting.


More to come I am sure....as DON’T ASK About Russia! Reporter MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell THROWN OUT of State Dept. is censorship.
No censorship is shutting MSNBC down, not throwing one of its reporters out of the State Department! MSNBC has the right to report what it wants, but Trump is under no obligation to give them access to the White House, it is a two-way street!

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#713 2017-03-11 08:14:25

Tom Kalbfus
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Re: Politics

SpaceNut wrote:

Roger Stone, President Trump's former campaign advisor, on Friday admitted to having private conversations with a hacker who helped leak information from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) during last year's campaign.

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Where has he been hiding for the past eight years? I guess the news media is once again reporting on homeless people after an eight year hiatus during the Obama Administration, when they were ignored. Well not quite Mayor Diblasio was fighting for their right to sleep on park benches an urinate on he streets!

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#714 2017-03-11 13:41:11

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Re: Politics

I haven't followed recent discussions in this thread. However, I have a question.

The movie "Passengers" was a fictional account of a colony ship sent to establish a new colony on a planet orbiting another star. The ship travelled at 1/2 the speed of light so passengers were in hibernation during the trip. Without getting into too much detail about the movie, at one point the main characters talked about why. The speaker pointed out the corporation earned 8 Quadrillion dollars from the first extra-solar planet they colonized. That's 8 million billions! And asked why you would be willing to do it? You have to pay for your ticket, plus anything you purchase while on the ship such as restaurant meals, and once you arrive you have to pay the corporation 20% of your income for the rest of your life. My reaction was: "Wait a minute! We currently pay more than that in income tax. Between federal and state income tax, or in Canada federal and provincial, it adds up to a lot more than 20%."

So why do you put up with income tax? Before 1913, America did not have any income tax at all. Before 1917 Canada did not have any income tax at all. Canada has a premium for Employment Insurance, and another premium for Canada Pension Plan. America has those two mushed together in a mess called "Social Security", with one premium to pay for it. Both countries have school tax as part of your property tax. Most Canadian provinces have a health insurance premium. In 1966 the province of Manitoba replaced our health insurance premium with a provincial sales tax. We didn't have provincial sales tax at all before that. Politicians at the time made a promise that 100% of that would go to healthcare, but for the last hike to provincial sales tax they didn't even pretend that any of it went to healthcare. But these pay for specific things. Why income tax?

Canada has had federal sales tax since before Confederation. That means before Canada was a country, when it was still just a colony of Britain. Basically, Canada has had federal sales tax since the Boston Tea Party. That paid for Canada's federal government. But why income tax?

I read a letter from the Canadian finance minister who created income tax. In that letter he begged future finance ministers to get rid of it. The act that created federal income tax in Canada was called the "Temporary War Income Tax Act". I like to point out the acronym spells "TWIT Act"! It was supposed to be temporary for World War 1 only. Not World War 2, just World War 1! Canada had a massive debt after World War 1. Canada's forefathers completely paid off that debt, but unfortunately only did so as World War 2 was starting. That is Canada paid off its debt during the 1920s and 1930s, completely retiring the debt in 1939. Then we had another World War. But after World War 2, no politician even tried to pay down the debt until Paul Martin in 1994. He became Prime Minister from November 2003 through January 2006. Unfortunately the other major party got elected in 2006, and immediately increased spending, increased the debt to its previous all-time high, and the debt has increased every day since.

So why do you put up with it? Why do you let politicians get away with charging you income tax?

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#715 2017-03-11 19:46:12

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Income tax is actually fairer than sales tax. When you run a business, your sales amount isn't your income. you income is your profit margin. Now when your competitors lower their prices, you have to lower your to compete with them, your profit margin goes down so you can hold onto your profit share, but your sales tax stays the same! What happens if your sales tax exceeds your profit margin on the sales you make? Your business goes out of business, it is no longer around to tax next year because the government put it out of business this year, this is what happened to a business I used to own. If it was a tax on my company's profits, I would have stayed in business, but it was a tax on my sales instead, so I'm out of business! Consequently I have paid no business taxes ever since!

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#716 2017-03-11 21:24:25

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FBI Director James Comey Says NO, FBI Did Not Wire Tap Trump ...FBI Director Comey asked Justice officials to refute Trump's ...White House counsel seeking access to FISA order that ...Comey asks subordinates to ID who had access to FISA info ...Comey launches internal investigation for potential abuser of FISA warrants. The potential for rogue FBI agents. Keep in mind that it’s not unheard of for an FBI agent to really be CIA plant. How then could Trump, Clapper, and Comey all be right about ‘wiretapping’ Trump Tower?
This may be possible for the NSA as it doesn’t need a FISA warrant to target the Russian banks – or any other foreign entity connected with those banks, or doing business in Trump Tower. Sounds a little like Snowden does it not...

Trump Lawsuit Can Go Forward After Supreme Court Of Canada Ruling plaintiffs — Sarbjit Singh and Se Na Lee — allege they were sold units in the hotel under false pretenses and misled to believe their investments would result in returns ranging from 7.74 per cent to 20.90 per cent. Instead, the two investors lost a combined $1.2 million, according to a decision by the Ontario Court of Appeal last year.

Texas Republicans drew congressional districts on racial lines Map found to be gerrymandered to weaken growing voting power of minorities, giving Democrats hope of new maps that could turn over more seats in Congress. Judges noted the “strong racial tension and heated debate about Latinos, Spanish-speaking people, undocumented immigrants and sanctuary cities” that served as the backdrop in the legislature to Texas adopting the maps and the voter ID law. 'Born and raised' Texans forced to prove identities under new voter ID law.

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He voted again for Obama in 2012, and turned out for the 2010 midterm elections in between. But this year is different. Kennie is one of an estimated 600,000 Texans who, though registered to vote, will be unable to do so because they cannot meet photo-identification requirements set out in the state’s new voter-ID law, SB14 .

Wisconsin's new voter ID law could keep me from voting at age 87, I’ve been registered to vote since 1948. At 85 years old, I didn’t have one, because I’m handicapped and so I never drove a car or needed an ID. The newspaper said that I’d have to go to the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) and register for a card, and it had a list of the documents that I needed to bring. I hadeverything – except for the legal birth certificate. I’m not sure my parents ever gave that to me. I did have a baptism certificate that was notarized, but that was all.

The aura of lawlessness around Trump is a struggle for us all – emboldened the courts in US immigration policy – as demonstrated by legal fights unfolding in the wake of Trump’s latest order. So what does he have session do is to tell all AG's left from the Obama resign.....

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#717 2017-03-11 22:48:18

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Tom Kalbfus wrote:

Income tax is actually fairer than sales tax. When you run a business, your sales amount isn't your income. you income is your profit margin. Now when your competitors lower their prices, you have to lower your to compete with them, your profit margin goes down so you can hold onto your profit share, but your sales tax stays the same! What happens if your sales tax exceeds your profit margin on the sales you make? Your business goes out of business, it is no longer around to tax next year because the government put it out of business this year, this is what happened to a business I used to own. If it was a tax on my company's profits, I would have stayed in business, but it was a tax on my sales instead, so I'm out of business! Consequently I have paid no business taxes ever since!

All businesses pay sales tax. You're supposed to charge your customers sales tax, it isn't included in your sticker price. Would you be willing to charge your customers 7% federal sales tax, knowing your competitors are required to do the same? Plus whatever state sales tax your state required. But that means no personal income tax (federal or state) and no corporate income tax (federal or state).

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#718 2017-03-12 08:11:40

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Then you again you also have the luxury tax, the property tax, gift tax, tax on early use of your 401k, room an meal tax in some states...... Seems like state including city /towns, non resident taxation and federal have their hands in you pocket for your wallet.

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#719 2017-03-12 09:48:53

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In Canada we have municipal property tax, paid to the city. We also have school tax, collected by the city with your property tax but goes to the school division. The school board sets school tax rate. We don't have luxury tax, don't know what that is or how it works. We don't have gift tax, and again don't know how that works. But there is estate tax when someone dies. And Canada has something called "Registered Retirement Savings Plan" (RRSP), which appears to be similar to 401k. When you invest in an RRSP, that money is deducted from your taxable income, so you don't pay income tax on it. If you withdraw any money before you're 65 years old, then that is added to your taxable income, so you pay income tax on it then. If you withdraw it after you're 65, then there is no income tax. There is a limit to how much you're allowed to invest in an RRSP. You can invest as much as you want, but the limit is how much is deducted from your taxable income. And I'm not sure but I suspect there's a limit to how quickly you can pull it out when your retired. So again, similar to 401k. There are other taxes, and I could go on and on about "license" fees.

Canada and the US used to be the libertarian paradise: no income tax, no luxury tax, no gift tax, most taxes just didn't exist. And very few regulations. Today it's gotten worse than Europe was at the time America declared independence in 1776. I disagree with much of what Donald Trump says, but he's president like it or not, so let's try to find the good things. One very good thing is he demanded reduction of regulation in the United States. He said for every new regulation created, 2 existing regulations must be removed. Great! Good job! Now let's see that happen.

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#720 2017-03-12 17:08:16

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Again today 2 of my son's were only a 1/4 mile appart an bore witness to crimes that were racial in nature. White man assaulting with soda shout at white woman who was with husband a black man that she was a traitor ect.. inside a Mc Donalds where other children were seated. The manager did head off the events via seperating the getlemen as the black man was defender her from this creep. The cops did haul the white dude off.

The other was in a papa gino's when another racially charge event occured. Which occured as a black customer was getting his food at which time another white guy assaulted and cause food to be spilled. Black gentleman was also punch but white dude which was hauled off by the cops as well. Management did replace his food.

Until Trumps election campaign and win, none of this ever happened so there is a direct connection to the lawlessness that is gripping America.

Here is Trumps America In Georgia, reaction to KKK banner is a sign of the times

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#721 2017-03-12 18:09:37

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The Trumpcare just be not so good for Americans as six to 15 million people could lose coverage under the Republican proposal for repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act known as Obamacare. "He wants everybody to get care. And that's what we're doing," "That's what we’re trying to fix -- not coverage for people, not coverage they can afford, but care they can afford," but being able to pay the bill for the care is what is a problem also and not just the level of the bill for the insurance. "We think it's going to be even better" than Obamacare because "the truly indigent are still getting care," and people with an income level just above the Medicaid limit will receive refundable tax credits. The bill would remove subsidies for some middle-income people and would administer tax credits at the same level across income brackets. So the credit benefits those that can pay the insurance premium but does nothing for those that can not pay for it. Scheduel A already gives a write off for paying the doctors bill but only above the % required to get a credit....

Since he was against both Trump and Hillary he has nothing to gain by not speaking the truth.
Bernie Sanders calls new health care bill “a tax break for the top 2 percent”

“It is a 275 billion dollar tax break for the top 2 percent,” Sanders told CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “Millionaires will get about 50 thousand dollars a year in tax breaks while some 5 to 10 million are going to lose their health insurance. Premiums are going to soar.” The current plan, Sanders insisted, is far from the president’s campaign promise. “This is throwing 5 to 10 million people off of the health insurance they currently have,” he said.

So rather than a pay in system for health insurance and its useage we are going to get instead a higher premium with age versus when we are younger....

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#722 2017-03-12 18:14:18

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After Pledging to Donate Salary, Trump Declines to Release Proof

During the campaign, Trump promised he would take "no salary" if elected — a pledge he reiterated after he won. The Constitution, however, requires that the president receive a salary, and that it not be reduced during his term. Federal law mandates the president receive a $400,000 annual salary, paid out once a month.  Under the law, Trump would receive his first monthly paycheck for $33,333 in February, and another $33,333 on March 20. Salary donations are not the only area where Trump's pledges to donate revenue are lacking transparency. During the transition, Trump also unveiled a plan to "donate all profits from foreign governments' patronage of his hotels and similar businesses" to the Treasury Department.

Do not bet on him showing a tax return proof that he actually did....

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#723 2017-03-12 20:28:41

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The next election will not be so easy to corrupt but only if states fund to upgrade old equipment...

States scramble for funding to upgrade aging voting machines

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At least once a year, staffers in one of Texas' largest election offices scour the web for a relic from a bygone technology era: Zip disks.

The advanced version of the floppy disk that was cutting edge in the mid-1990s plays a vital role in tallying votes in Bexar County, where like other places around the U.S., money to replace antiquated voting equipment is scarce.

Trump firing of Preet Bharara leaves void in fight against corruption and Wall Street crime

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#724 2017-03-12 23:23:56

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SpaceNut wrote:

After Pledging to Donate Salary, Trump Declines to Release Proof

During the campaign, Trump promised he would take "no salary" if elected — a pledge he reiterated after he won. The Constitution, however, requires that the president receive a salary, and that it not be reduced during his term. Federal law mandates the president receive a $400,000 annual salary, paid out once a month.  Under the law, Trump would receive his first monthly paycheck for $33,333 in February, and another $33,333 on March 20. Salary donations are not the only area where Trump's pledges to donate revenue are lacking transparency. During the transition, Trump also unveiled a plan to "donate all profits from foreign governments' patronage of his hotels and similar businesses" to the Treasury Department.

Do not bet on him showing a tax return proof that he actually did....

I don't care what he does with his salary, what he does with the President's salary is no why I voted for him as President. Trump truly does not need it. I'll take his word for it, the issue isn't really important to me. Would you like him to give you a car? His monthly salary could buy you one new car a month!

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#725 2017-03-13 19:52:26

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The American public is tired of the constant lies and with President Trump claims that Obama wiretapped Trump Tower he may also be called into obstruction as he needs to show proof of the claim.  Congress demands evidence of the claims while some House Republicans admit that there is no evidence. Trump if found guilty of obstruction of justice, that is an offense that could get him impeached. To further impede the chances of being going to court to be found guilty he fires all the remaining AG's that were still actively working. The House intelligence committee said it would give the Justice Department until March 20 to comply with the evidence request. That's the date of the committee's first open hearing on the investigation into Russia's interference in the 2016 election and possible contacts between Trump associates and Russia. With which the only tapping that was going on is the computer banking signals which were being monitored and nothing else.

Check Out President Trump Blatantly Lying About ObamaCare Once Again all while trying to reassuring the masses who are worried about the loss of healthcare under the GOP Repeal and Replace plan. But Trumpcare is American Health Care Act really is “dead on arrival” according to a new report from the Congressional Budget Office and the Joint Committee on Taxation. The AARP estimates that a 64-year-old making $15,000 a year would pay $8,400 more for coverage under the proposed Republican bill than the Affordable Care Act. Overall, people in their 50s would pay 25-30 percent more in premiums under the new plan, the group projects.

‘Robin Hood in reverse’: CBO report on GOP health care plan supports Democrats’ charges
Congressional Budget Office’s report estimating that 24 million fewer Americans would be insured under the Republican health care plan 10 years from now, arguing their colleagues should abandon the effort. The CBO projected that costs eventually would be higher for older people buying coverage and lower for younger people, averaging out to a 10 percent reduction in premiums on the individual market 10 years from now. 14 million people would lose insurance next year after the bill passed.

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