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SpaceNut · 2017-01-02 21:27:09

Here is what Trumps GOP will be doing next to keep there a** out of jail...
House GOP guts ethics panel

Republicans voted 119-74 Monday night in favor of a proposal that would gut Congress' outside ethics watchdog and remove its independence.
Republican Virginia Rep. Bob Goodlatte's proposal would place the independent Office of Congressional Ethics -- an initial watchdog for House members but without power to punish members -- under oversight of those very lawmakers.
House Speaker Paul Ryan and other top GOP leaders opposed the change to ethics rules, but rank-and-file members disregarded their views and voted to approve the new structure for ethics reviews going forward, according to a senior House GOP leadership source familiar with the closed door discussion.
The proposal would bar the panel from reviewing any violation of criminal law by members of Congress, requiring that it turn over any complaint to the House Ethics Committee or refer the matter to an appropriate federal law enforcement agency.
The House Ethics Committee would also have the power to stop an investigation at any point and bars the ethics office from making any public statements about any matters or hiring any communications staff.
And the ethics office would no longer be able to accept or investigate any anonymous reports of alleged wrongdoing by members of Congress.

Means we have no way to charge them with criminal acts...

"Republicans claim they want to 'drain the swamp,' but the night before the new Congress gets sworn in, the House GOP has eliminated the only independent ethics oversight of their actions. Evidently, ethics are the first casualty of the new Republican Congress,"

You can not see the swamp when its so full of gators that there is nothing else to see....

SpaceNut · 2017-01-08 17:58:49

Article speaks for its self as Donald Trump quickly settled a series of business disputes — but just days before his inauguration Legal Battle Over Paint Bill Lingers as Trump Preps for Presidency The president-elect's company is still waging a legal battle against a Florida shop owner over an unpaid bill.

The court ordered Trump to pay for $32,000 worth of paint, plus nearly $300,000 in legal fees. "Trump elected to fight this case 'tooth and nail' instead of resolving it for a reasonable amount, driving up Paint Spot's litigation fees and costs," the judge explained.

So lie, cheat, steal ect...at any cost seems to be his, modus operandi of operation for everything...including becoming President.

SpaceNut · 2017-01-10 22:46:44

Trump Briefing Materials Included Damaging Allegations of Russian Ties:
Sources Two U.S. officials with direct knowledge told NBC News on Tuesday that briefing materials prepared for President-elect Donald Trump included information that initially circulated among Trump opponents and was passed to U.S. intelligence agencies making damaging allegations about his dealings with Russians.

Neither of the officials said the FBI was actively investigating the information, which has not been verified by U.S. agencies. The sources would not comment on the nature of the allegations.

Tom Kalbfus · 2017-01-13 08:36:36

GW Johnson wrote:

These controversies are just another part of the chaos that I predicted Trump would bring.

Trump's not bringing this chaos, how could he, he's not even president yet? Barack Obama is still President and is still in charge until January 20th, it is Trump's opponents who are bringing this chaos! It is only fair to judge a President after he is sworn in, not before. The People have decided they want Trump as President, all the sore losers who don't agree with this decision are the ones sewing the chaos.

GW Johnson wrote:

The evidence so far is that this chaos will continue past the inauguration and for however long he serves. It is just in his nature to go defensive and grab at any straw to hit back against anything he perceives as a threat to his image as a winner.

What evidence? All I see is the main stream Media having a fit because their woman did not get elected President, and they are trying to cause as much chaos through misreporting as they can for Trump. It is a matter of power and who decides who gets to be the next President, they don't agree with the decision the American People made, they think they ought to be the ones who decide who the next President is, they groomed Hillary for power, they wanted Hillary to be the first female President and their plans did not come to fruition and so they are mad! That is all this is!

GW Johnson wrote:

Trump is not a businessman, he is a self promoter.

Really? Why can't he be both? Seems to me Trump has been very successful at business and in promoting himself!

GW Johnson wrote:

His own banks (who bailed him out instead of letting him go bankrupt, as a means to more profit for themselves) say that about him.

Do banks like to lose money?

GW Johnson wrote:

He pays no taxes not because he is astute about tax law, but because he hires people who are.

Are you saying that Trump should have been a lawyer instead of a financier? A rich person hires experts to do the things they can't do themselves. Trump cannot be expected to be a lawyer, he did not go to law school, his specialty is in real estate and in making money, he hires other people who's specialty is in law! Do you hire lawyers or do you want to act as a lawyer yourself? Who do you think would do a better job?

GW Johnson wrote:

He stiffed everybody in 6 bankruptcies-of-record not because he is astute about abusing the bankruptcy laws that way, but because he hired people who were.

Lots of people go bankrupt, I've been bankrupt myself! Do you think he went bankrupt on purpose? I don't! I think Trump wanted to make a lot of money, and he has not always been successful, so he declared bankruptcy, that is what the bankruptcy laws are for! Do you have something against bankruptcy laws? Do you prefer people go to debtors prison instead?

GW Johnson wrote:

The self-promoter thing means he is liar,

Not necessarily, one can promote oneself without being a liar.

GW Johnson wrote:

and we already have seen that. He is factually-challenged about nearly all issues, and then lies egregiously to people about all things, aided and baby-sat by that evilly-glib Kellyanne Conway, his propaganda master.

And yet he is President and a billionaire and you are not!

GW Johnson wrote:

He promised laid-off blue-collar factory workers he would help them, and then stuffed his cabinet with the same greedy wall street bankers who have cost them their jobs by offshoring and automating everything.

How could they? He and they have not been sworn into office yet. Why don't you give them a break and don't judge them when they haven't even begun their jobs yet? I think you are being unfair! At least give Trump and his cabinet time to do their jobs before you judge them!

GW Johnson wrote:

Not to mention causing the Great Recession with their mortgage shenanigans. Saving a few thousand jobs here and there by tweet-shaming is a drop in the bucket compared to the 50 million factory jobs his supporters need.

They didn't cause the recession, they were not in positions of power to cause the Great Recession. The Great Recession was caused by those in government, and they were not! Place the blame where it actually belongs!

He named a anti-vacciner to the health and human services position, and has ordered an investigation into vaccine safety, when all the science says the link between vaccines and autism is total bullshit.

Is it? Are you a medical expert?

The one and only paper that ever claimed such a link was long ago completely debunked and discredited, and retracted. All that does is demonstrate (1) how totally uneducated Trump is, and (2) that he values political advantage very far above any sort of objective truth.
There's more, but why belabor the point? The man is totally unfit to be president, and will do this country a lot of damage. While he is really a RINO, the party that selected him will also prove its unfitness to govern, because the various factions cannot agree, and will try to out right-wing-extremist each other. For the most part, they value political advantage far above objective fact, just as Trump does. And that is very dangerous in lawmakers as well as presidents.
Time to start a new conspiracy theory in a tit-for-tat scenario. Trump is the man who led the Obama-is-foreign-born conspiracy theory. But Trump is quite evidently a Russian spy. Look at his connections to the Russians. They tried to help him win, and among his investors are the Russian mafia who support Putin. He wants to cozy up to Russia, and destroy NATO, he already said so.
Go have fun with that!
GW

Gee I thought you liked Russia, up till now you were always arguing that we should not provoke Russia, that Ukraine should be neutral, that we shouldn't ratchet up tensions with Russia and risk a new Cold War, and now since you need a scapegoat to blame Hillary's defeat on, you've completely changed sides against Russia. how curious? I guess invading Georgia and Ukraine isn't too bad, but hacking into the DNC e-mails, that clearly is the last straw! Not that the DNC e-mails were well protected, not that they showed concern for cyber security, nope it is only when they got hacked by their supposed friends the Russians, that they got mad! As you recall I opposed Russia' invasion of Ukraine, and I recall arguing with you over that subject on this site, and suddenly now that the DNC e-mails have been hacked, or so you say, and you need something to blame Hillary's defeat on, you are on the other side of this issue. How strange. At least hold a consistent position!

elderflower · 2017-01-13 14:18:07

I do think that America would benefit from abandoning this republic stuff and reverting to the rule of their rightful Sovereign.

Terraformer · 2017-01-13 15:28:40

It would give the word governor a whole old meaning...

Void · 2017-01-13 18:53:31

You clearly need diversity training. Let me help you......

https://www.bing.com/search?q=did+i+sha … k+for+this

SpaceNut · 2017-01-13 21:53:17

GW not really pro Hillary but more like Anti-Trump.....just about anything is better than that....which could will over that.

So we have a security intel briefing for the Russian hacking and after that FBI'S Comey told Trump about Russain Dossier After intel meeting of which the Donald sends the national security advisor to the Russian ambassador making a call to tell putin to scrub his servers and email plus hide or burn all those currier notes.... most likely. First off Comey should not have communicated that Trump was under any investigation at all as that is up to the Ethics board to do. The Senate Intelligence Committee to Probe Russian Intel Activities and links between Russia and individuals associated with political campaigns.

So we have a Russian spy in the
Top Trump aide in frequent contact with Russia's ambassador which really is Big security risks in Trump feud with spy agencies, officials say

SpaceNut · 2017-01-13 22:14:15

Now to the GOP's and Trumps agenda to drain the swamp ect....
Over course ACA needs to be repealed so it comes as no surprise that Congressional GOP Complete First Step of Obamacare Repeal without any replacement for any of it... with an impact that will effect missions for just healthcare but also employment numbers as well.

Republican leadership said that it would take time — weeks or even months — to replace the massive health care law that currently gave coverage to an additional 20 million people and impacts one-sixth of the nation's economy.

The Senate leadership has taken the first dangerous step toward repealing the Affordable Care Act. Repeal of the ACA will pull the plug on the 30 million Americans. a 2015 number from CBO: Repealing ObamaCare would cost $137 billion of which its probably higher as Price tag of Obamacare repeal: $353 billion is likely.

I would be that both numbers are wrong....and with the removal of the safe guards the insurance companies can go back to removing the costly patients from there premium coverage.....

Forget Obamacare: Here's the real Republican civil war raging between Republicans over the next big piece of legislation: corporate tax reform.

A provision of the house GOP plan, called a border adjustment tax, is already leading to public battles.

Next up as related to the wall we are also seeing the GOP wanting to Scrubbing NAFTA Could Cost More Than 30,000 U.S. Auto Jobs which will have the oposite effect via taxation of imports further reducing sales causing an even larger sag in purchasing....

elderflower · 2017-01-14 09:48:01

I think there was intervention by the the USA and various European powers, and Japan, against the Bolsheviks in favour of the White Russian resistance. It failed, largely due to the disunity and lack of coordination of the white forces, leaving the Red Army victorious.

Tom Kalbfus · 2017-01-14 10:42:05

elderflower wrote:

I think there was intervention by the the USA and various European powers, and Japan, against the Bolsheviks in favour of the White Russian resistance. It failed, largely due to the disunity and lack of coordination of the white forces, leaving the Red Army victorious.

And the Cold war that followed justified that action. The World would be so much better off were it not for those Bolsheviks, Russia would be a lot better off! The Bolsheviks got their chance because the Kaiser got greedy. After the American Revolution, there were all sorts of hucksters pedaling their own brand of Revolution, Karl Marx and Lenin were two of those, Maximillian Robespierre was another.

SpaceNut · 2017-01-14 20:01:25

'We waited for decades': Polish govt welcomes US troops

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Polish leaders declared themselves alone no longer at a ceremony Saturday welcoming the arrival of U.S. troops as part of a deployment that has angered Russia.

Trump's CEO meetings raise ethics questions seeking federal approval for major mergers are raising red flags for ethics lawyers concerned about the possible erosion of a firewall between the incoming White House and regulators reviewing those billion-dollar deals.

Why the GOP wants to do away with ACA are Fines are one of the most unpopular parts of the 2010 health overhaul,: The IRS is sending personalized letters to millions of taxpayers who might be uninsured, reminding them that they could be on the hook for hundreds of dollars in fines under the federal health care law if they don't sign up soon through HealthCare.gov. It's an unusual role for a revenue-collection agency.
About 800,000 letters went out after Thanksgiving, and an additional 6.7 million are going out now, according to congressional aides. Last year about 6.5 million people paid fines for being uninsured, averaging $470, according to recent IRS data.

SpaceNut · 2017-01-16 16:35:30

President-elect Donald Trump, who said in an interview that he believed that the EU 28 members of NATO was "obsolete". Its funny just how many Entertainers are dropping out of Trump Inauguration.
So we get hacked and now someone has Karma, it turns out, is a borscht. Payback? Russia Gets Hacked, Revealing Putin Aide’s Secrets

A Ukrainian group calling itself Cyber Hunta has released more than a gigabyte of emails and other material from the office of one of Vladimir Putin's top aides, Vladislav Surkov, that show Russia's fingerprints all over the separatist movement in Ukraine.

Talk about medling in a nations affears... First Russia takeover of Crimea whats next taking back all of the eastern block nations that were given independance...
I wonder did they find any currier notes?

Of course with great fear the Ukraine Fears That Putin Will ‘Step Forward’ if Trump Pulls Back and backs the Russians....

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RobertDyck · 2017-01-17 02:50:23

WHY I'M HAPPY TRUMP WON

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Tom Kalbfus · 2017-01-17 09:16:38

SpaceNut wrote:

President-elect Donald Trump, who said in an interview that he believed that the EU 28 members of NATO was "obsolete". Its funny just how many Entertainers are dropping out of Trump Inauguration.
So we get hacked and now someone has Karma, it turns out, is a borscht. Payback? Russia Gets Hacked, Revealing Putin Aide’s Secrets
A Ukrainian group calling itself Cyber Hunta has released more than a gigabyte of emails and other material from the office of one of Vladimir Putin's top aides, Vladislav Surkov, that show Russia's fingerprints all over the separatist movement in Ukraine.
Talk about medling in a nations affears... First Russia takeover of Crimea whats next taking back all of the eastern block nations that were given independance...
I wonder did they find any currier notes?
Of course with great fear the Ukraine Fears That Putin Will ‘Step Forward’ if Trump Pulls Back and backs the Russians....
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Europe's a "big boy" now, it can and should b encouraged to take care of itself. Europe has more people than the United States and a larger Economy. Chancellor Merkel is in a position that the Kaiser would envy, he always wanted to dominate Europe, and here is Germany's chance to lead it, it is well positioned to be the leader and defender of Europe, it just has to make some investments in its military. I think what Trump wants is for Europe to defend itself, and this requires a bit of "tough love!" We have to get the nations of Europe to believe that if they don't defend themselves, they are liable to become a part of Russia. Russia is weak, all of its aggressiveness is designed to mask its weakness. Putin is doing a rather poor job in managing Russia' economy, it has very few friends in the world that want to trade with it. The Trump plan is to get the Europeans to contain Russia and the Asian countries to contain China, take America out of this equation and let it guard its own borders, this is America First, and in order for an America First Policy to work, it needs a world where its allies are able and willing to pay the full freight for defending themselves. In this World, the United States can stay out of conflicts, when there are nearer more regional players that are willing to step in. Trump wants to delegate responsibility for maintaining the World order to America's regional allies, that would include Japan and Germany. Economically Japan is a match for China, and Germany is a match for Russia. The United States can then focus its full energies to crushing Al Qaeda, ISIS, and the Taliban!

SpaceNut · 2017-01-17 18:43:28

The Protection of a nations peoples are not the same as saying to some one sink of swim as we are not enharently of sound military tactics or processes. A nations people that are either volunteer or selected are taught how to do these things as a means to make a military force. That is one of the reasons we have been so long over sea's as it is in Iraq and Afganistan is to give time to stabilize such a military protection and form of government to utilize them.
Now do the nations that border the Russian territory have these forces in a stable strength so as to defend there borders?
No the EU is still a baby when considering it as a consolidated nation cooperating as a single nation they are not the same as the United States Of America just yet but are on there way..

SpaceNut · 2017-01-17 18:49:58

Tom Kalbfus wrote:

Free floating space habitats are more vulnerable to attack than a space colony built into the crust of the Moon. None of the Middle Eastern countries are capable of building a colony in the Moon, all they can do is complain, and they are too busy fighting each other to do much of anything else! the trick to dealing with the Middle east is to let them fight each other until they tire of the slaughter. To a middle easterner life is cheap, they made it that way, they raised a generation of children that they consider disposable, human life is no worth much to them, as they devise ways of ending it, that is why ISIS, Al Qaeda, and the Taliban are so popular, because their philosophy is the cheapness and the disposability of human life, they don't value it at all. For them the purpose of children is to raise them so they can carry a bomb to their enemies and blow themselves up! That is my image of the middle east today, if they don't like it, they can change it and prove wrong! One strong motivation to build space colonies is to get away from these nitwits that want to die for Allah and kill others in the process of fighting their Holy war. I don't want to b a part of their plans, and I don't want their "Holy Warriors" coming to my country and blowing themselves up, and that is the main reason I voted for Trump! I believe we are more civilized than those brain-washed minions of Al Qaeda, ISIS, and the Taliban. I think we should let them kill each other and not us until they reduce their population to such an extent that they no longer threaten us. That means don't bring in refugees, let those people fix their own societies rather than come here and try to mess up our own! We need to insulate ourselves from the less civilized people of the World, that is why we need to build space colonies.

Tom I think this really belongs here..

SpaceNut · 2017-01-17 19:27:22

Tom the embargo's and boycott of there nations are just a few ways to help with that correction of a nation that allows extreemists to strike out at other nations....Refugees do need to be processed and even then they need health care monitoring for the signs of not being able to conform to new life styles. Heaven forbid any extreemist that can get there hands of a full sized rocket capable of launch a crew for take over of any space colony or station regardless of where it might be. Not only do they value not even life but they also destroy where ever they go as well having no value for there surounds as well.

Tom Kalbfus · 2017-01-17 20:22:02

We need to isolate the barbarians of this World, Middle East terrorism should be a middle east problem, not our problem. I tell you, I'm sick and tired of Middle East problems coming to our country in the form of terrorism! I don't like the extra security measures we need to take to over come these special problems these middle eastern people bring with them when they come to our country. If the problem is that the people of the Middle East are too violent, and like war too much, then by coming here, they don't escape those problems, since the problem is their violent behavior. Where ever they go their violence follows, maybe they ought to work on bringing up children who are not so violent, maybe teach them right from wrong for instance.

Tom Kalbfus · 2017-01-18 23:06:58

Why does Hollywood like Economic Recession? Why does it like the decline of America? Why does it like the Iranians getting nuclear weapons?

elderflower · 2017-01-19 12:42:36

What makes you think America is in decline, Tom? The way I see it America is greater than it has ever been. There has been a reduction in basic manufacturing, leaving some areas to fall behind, just as there has been in Britain. This does not mean that America as a whole is diminished. The United States remains the richest and most powerful nation the world has yet seen.
Other nations are trying very hard to catch up, as Japan and Korea have done. The Japanese and South Koreans now face the same kind of problems as does the US, and we no longer hear about the Japanese threat to our and your industries. Instead the threat is alleged to come from Mexico and China. This is as much a myth as the Japan threat was. As soon as they get near the standards of living of the West, their advantage in cheap labour evaporates, then they will have to be smarter, more efficient and more innovative than they are at present. But these are exactly the fields where America excels and by the time they get there The US will have moved on.
Then every nation will be better off. Economics is nt a zero sum game.

RobertDyck · 2017-01-19 14:59:27

Tom, the deal with Iran is they get nuclear reactors for power only. Not weapons. With inspectors to ensure compliance. However, inspection is not as thorough as I would have liked.

America is becoming more polarized. Looks like it is breaking up. But also remember, America has a massive debt. To ensure domestic banks could continue to finance the federal government deficit, banks were pressured to "find a creative way" to raise funds. They created junk mortgages. That caused the banking system collapse of 2008. But politicians haven't learned. The deficit is still huge. If the budget isn't balanced soon, expect another financial catastrophe as severe as 2008. I don't know when, don't know what form it will take, but something has to give. The Soviet Union broke up due to economic collapse due to military overspending. The United States appears determined to repeat that.

SpaceNut · 2017-01-19 19:56:06

Many states are still coming to terms with the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_ID_Act of which Federal authorities have given Pennsylvania a few more months to comply with a 2005 federal law that requires people to prove they are legal U.S. residents in order for their driver's licenses to be valid for federal purposes, Gov. Tom Wolf's administration said Thursday. Pennsylvania has been granted an extension until June 5, 2017 from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to fix state law to allow for federal REAL ID compliance.

There are others states that still do not have the ID's in place...

Tom Kalbfus · 2017-01-19 23:32:11

elderflower wrote:

What makes you think America is in decline, Tom? The way I see it America is greater than it has ever been. There has been a reduction in basic manufacturing, leaving some areas to fall behind, just as there has been in Britain. This does not mean that America as a whole is diminished. The United States remains the richest and most powerful nation the world has yet seen.
Other nations are trying very hard to catch up, as Japan and Korea have done. The Japanese and South Koreans now face the same kind of problems as does the US, and we no longer hear about the Japanese threat to our and your industries. Instead the threat is alleged to come from Mexico and China. This is as much a myth as the Japan threat was. As soon as they get near the standards of living of the West, their advantage in cheap labour evaporates, then they will have to be smarter, more efficient and more innovative than they are at present. But these are exactly the fields where America excels and by the time they get there The US will have moved on.
Then every nation will be better off. Economics is nt a zero sum game.

Household income is down.
http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/daniel-mitchell/
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1% annual average growth under Obama.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/1-a … nder-obama
Just look at how the National Debt is growing!
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Tom Kalbfus · 2017-01-19 23:41:56

RobertDyck wrote:

Tom, the deal with Iran is they get nuclear reactors for power only. Not weapons. With inspectors to ensure compliance. However, inspection is not as thorough as I would have liked.
America is becoming more polarized. Looks like it is breaking up. But also remember, America has a massive debt. To ensure domestic banks could continue to finance the federal government deficit, banks were pressured to "find a creative way" to raise funds. They created junk mortgages. That caused the banking system collapse of 2008. But politicians haven't learned. The deficit is still huge. If the budget isn't balanced soon, expect another financial catastrophe as severe as 2008. I don't know when, don't know what form it will take, but something has to give. The Soviet Union broke up due to economic collapse due to military overspending. The United States appears determined to repeat that.

May I as a "Stupid Question?" Why does Iran need nuclear power? They got oil fields, and they got plenty of natural gas to burn, seems to me that since Iran is a net oil exporter, and with all that oil drilling it has plenty of natural gas to burn, it doesn't need nuclear power! Natural gas is much safer to burn than splitting Uranium atoms. But is seems to me, Iran isn't interested in generating electricity, it is interesting in things that go boom! Plutonium to be specific. A by product of Uranium fission is Plutonium, and the Iranian government is very interested in finding new ways to kill people, preferably a lot of people! Just as you would not give a pyromaniac a match and a jug of gasoline, you don't give nuclear power to the Iranians, they have been bad boys, they supported terrorism, and nation that supports terrorism has no business splitting atoms for any reason, because we can't trust them, or have you forgotten the hostage incident that started their terrible regime?

You remember the Iranian Revolution don't you? One of the first acts of this terrible regime was to take our embassy personnel hostage! People who engage in terrorism and who threatened the lives of Americans should not be given nuclear reactors to play with! In fact they should not even be allowed to operate airplanes!

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