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JoshNH4H · 2008-03-09 11:57:15

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton-pro … p_reaction

JoshNH4H · 2008-04-13 19:02:18

I've had an idea that could make this into a real chain reaction, like U-235 and other types of fission:

Use LiD (lithium deuteride, 7-Li 2-H) as the nuclear fuel. When the nucleus splits to 2 alpha particles, each with an energy of 8 MeV, they will tend to collide with the other Nuclei (In the way of heat transfer). f something hits D with more that 2.45 MeV of energy, it becomes a proton and a free neutron. The only disadvantage is that now there is only one possible nuclear fuel.

JoshNH4H · 2008-04-16 14:12:07

the only difference is that you need a neutron source to begin with.

So, to recap. Energy from fission gets to deuterium (s) if it's more than 2.45 MeV, the 2H splits to a proton and a neutron. Neutrons induce further fissions. Products are protium and Helium 4.

Completely clean :!: :arrow: :idea:

Terraformer · 2008-04-16 14:28:06

But how much energy released? The result should be Hydrogen?

What about all those electons?

Plus, where do you intend to mine the H2 from?

JoshNH4H · 2008-04-19 05:26:14

The products are Hydrogen and Helium. Deuterium can be concentrated from whatever hydrogen is present. Lithium can be mined as for batteries.

Terraformer · 2008-04-19 10:11:50

Question: What would happen to H2 if it was bombarded with Neutrons? Would the Neutrons turn into more H2 or would it turn the H2 into H22?

JoshNH4H · 2008-04-19 12:05:30

Question: What would happen to H2 if it was bombarded with Neutrons? Would the Neutrons turn into more H2 or would it turn the H2 into H22?

I think you're asking what would happen if Dihydrogen, the diatomic hydrogen molecule made of two protiums, were bombarded with neutrons?

(BTW, from now on, I'm using Pr for protium, D for deuterium, and T for tritium)

Depends on whether it is absorbed or not. Some neutrons will beta decay to Pr, others will be absorbed to make Pr into D. You're thinking breeder reactors? Or neutron retreival?

Terraformer · 2008-04-19 14:24:46

I'm thinking 'Could we get Deutrium out of current reactors'.

So, if we had someway of stopping Ns being absorbed. Lot's of Hydrogen for us there.

Anyway, the N would not decay to Pr, it would decay to H. Protium is the Positive H Ion, also known as a Proton (I think that's what Wikipedia said.)

JoshNH4H · 2008-04-21 07:05:51

I used the term loosely, I guess, but I meant an atom with one proton and any number of electrons.

The answer is yes, because Pr tends to absorb neutrons, that's why they use D2O instead of Pr2O in CANDU reactors (reactors that run on natural uranium), because light water would absorb neutrons and kill the reaction.

JoshNH4H · 2008-04-21 07:26:05

of course, with breeder reactors using uranium/plutonium (basically what it would be, right?) you run full scale into the problem of nuclear waste again.

Terraformer · 2008-04-21 07:34:22

Where does the energy/radiation come from in nuclear waste?

The Plutonium decays down to Uranium, right? Or does Uranium become plutonium and another element?

JoshNH4H · 2008-04-21 07:56:11

radiation in nuclear wastes comes from radioisotopes, especially gamma decay. No matter what you do, though, Nilfir can't make any radioisotopes.

JoshNH4H · 2008-04-21 09:13:45

BTW, I will probably use this as a suggestion on the order of feasibility as nuclear with Uranium, because its public image will probably be better, so the 'uranium barrier' doesn't apply.

Terraformer · 2008-04-26 04:45:24

Why not just use the radioactive waste for energy generation? Gamma rays surely could be turned into useful energy?

JoshNH4H · 2008-04-26 06:11:48

maybe, but it's nasty stuff. It might generate a lot of heat, but Gamma rays are too hard to catch to be useful.

That gives me a thought: For a cheaper RTG, just use pure nuclear waste if the electronics can handle it.

JoshNH4H · 2008-04-27 12:09:49

Anyway, on the Nilfir idea, will it be politically possible to use it in an Orion configuration (NPP), since the most dangerous possible product is tritium?

JoshNH4H · 2008-05-27 14:20:53

I've had a thought- A Be-Li alloy would be useful in these reactors/bombs, because Be is better that D in more ways than 1.

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