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#351 2022-10-16 14:26:56

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Re: Putin's Russian expanding to be the old USSR

The military stress of funding does deplete the help that its people would normally receive but poverty is not always a function of wars. People are even poor without that condition occurring as illustrated in many nations worldwide.

Sure, not having access to a free internet is a plus to aid in not remaining poor but that by itself is not going to move most people out of poverty.

What moves people out of poverty has to do with economic change where the income is higher than the expenses and still higher than the poverty guidelines of income which vary state by state and by federal government numbers. These are the weighed values based on cost-of-living values in a local.

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#352 2022-10-16 16:09:43

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10,000 Ukrainians have completed military training in the UK

https://www.bobfm.co.uk/more-than-10000 … nd-forces/

'India's imports of Russian oil jump fivefold, helping war efforts'
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Energy … ar-efforts

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#353 2022-10-16 18:39:32

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'Ukraine Strikes Airport Inside Russia'
https://funker530.com/video/ukraine-str … de-russia/
As many as 16 Ukrainian strikes of undetermined nature targeted the Russian city of Belgorod

In April two Ukrainian Mi-24 performed a night raid and set fire to a fuel depot in Belgorod, in a low-altitude airstrike
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2 … 4e84a3738e

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#354 2022-10-16 20:17:01

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Surprising Russia-Ukraine war latest: what we know on day 236 of the invasion
Considering that it was not going to take long to conquer the Ukrainians according to Putin and his military might.

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#355 2022-10-17 15:14:31

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Belarus says nearly 9,000 Russian troops will deploy to Ukraine border

https://thehill.com/policy/internationa … ne-border/

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#356 2022-10-18 06:03:31

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Kyiv Police Try To Shoot Down Kamikaze Drone

https://funker530.com/video/kyiv-police … aze-drone/

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#357 2022-10-19 11:19:18

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'Putin declares martial law in annexed Ukrainian regions'

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/putin … -rcna52926

The Russian pilots who ejected from a military plane moments before it crashed into an apartment building and killed 13 people could face charges, Russia says
https://www.businessinsider.com/russian … es-2022-10

video of a crash online

Online vid seems to show a crash of a Sukhoi Su-34 Soviet origin Russia twin engine twin seat fighter bomber inside Russia

Yeysk a port and resort town in Russia not far from Ukraine, situated on shore of Taganrog Gulf Sea of Azov, East of Crimea with the Pensinula to its West which has access to the Black Sea and Romania, Georgia, Turkey, Bulgaria.

'More Angles Of Russian Fighter Jet Crash And Aftermath'
https://funker530.com/video/more-angles … aftermath/

The crash resulted in 13 killed and 19 injured

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#358 2022-10-20 05:14:47

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Ukrainian forces push toward Kherson, Kyiv orders electricity curbs

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk … 022-10-19/

Russian army vows to 'fight to death' as tens of thousands are evacuated from Kherson

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-new … 81?amp;amp

Ukraine war: Kyiv forces push towards Kherson; Russia attacks in Donetsk; Iran accused over drones

https://www.euronews.com/2022/10/20/ukr … an-attacks

Russian forces in Ukraine under pressure as Kherson towns to be evacuated

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/r … ed-3013976

Vids

Ukrainian Troops Shell Russian Positions with SPG-9
https://funker530.com/video/helmet-cam- … ith-spg-9/

Ukrainian Soldiers Narrowly Escape Russian Artillery
https://funker530.com/video/ukrainian-s … artillery/


Russia's population transfers are 'deportations', says Ukraine

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/2 … ys-ukraine

Russia began evacuating civilians from Kherson in southern Ukraine

Russian-backed authorities order civilians to leave occupied city of Kherson

https://metro.co.uk/2022/10/20/russian- … -17598405/

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#359 2022-10-21 17:24:14

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Seems that Russia stands to lose Kazakhstan new home to 50 international firms that opted for Russia exit, 50 more could be on the way

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More than 50 international firms have relocated from Russia to Kazakhstan since Moscow invaded Ukraine in late February, while another 56 that have exited Russia in recent months have 'expressed their willingness to settle in Kazakhstan'.

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#360 2022-10-24 17:57:16

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Chaotic Video Shows Russian Vehicle Driving Directly into Ukrainian Armor

https://funker530.com/video/chaotic-vid … ian-armor/

Insane scenes of chaos are recorded as Russian towed artillery drives directly into Ukrainian armor advancing near Kherson. This is a nightmare scenario captured on camera.

First and foremost, all of the credit for this video edit goes to Reddit user LittleLoyal16 who edited this footage together in a coherent manner for the Combat Footage subreddit. It was originally released in a combat montage with the scenes chopped out of order and interspersed with loads of drone footage of events entirely unrelated to this one.

For the purpose of context, this footage was recorded by members of the 25th Airborne Brigade during the still on-going counter-offensive near the city of Kherson. It shows Russian troops towing artillery driving directly into Ukrainian armor.

If you've ever wanted to know what fog of war looks like in real life, this video is a pretty accurate representation of it.

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#361 2022-10-26 05:40:45

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'Ukraine Situation Report: Russia's Ka-52 Attack Helicopter Fleet Has Been Massacred'

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/u … -massacred

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#362 2022-10-27 09:05:13

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Russian Fuel Trains Targeted In Donetsk

https://funker530.com/video/russian-fue … n-donetsk/

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#363 2022-10-28 06:05:28

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Democrat Congressman Claims Arming Ukraine Is About Protecting Woke Values.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ … oke-values

Raskin. A very Jewish name.


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#364 2022-10-28 19:33:59

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#365 2022-10-29 01:01:54

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Calliban,

Jewish people did not cause the invasion of Ukraine.  Russia has claimed that they're fighting neo-nazis, such as the Azov Battalion, not Jewish communists.  Does it strike you as the least bit odd that either supposed or actual neo-nazis are fighting for their Jewish Commander-in-Chief, against Russian Orthodox Christians, and that Chechen fighters, who follow Islam rather than Christianity or Judaism, have been turning their weapons against the Russian invaders that they were supposed to be fighting for, rather than against?  The Russians have brutalized pretty much anybody and any country that runs afoul of their Imperialistic agenda.  Even some young Russian men and women have been questioning why they're fighting people who they've married and interwoven their communities with.

Do you think it's even possible that this entire war is about money, oil / gas, and power ("Russian Greatness", or protecting Russia, or whatever goes through President Putin's mind)?

The nazis and communists were / are ideologues hellbent on domination and subjugation.  This war is not ideologically-driven.  It's about money and power, same as almost every other war throughout human history.  Religion and hatred have fueled various wars to one degree or another, but after the killing starts one side typically learns to hate the other.  In other words, this latest Ukraine-based war is only garden variety butchery and thuggery to make that next almighty dollar (or ruble).

The Soviet Union and later Russia invaded or re-invaded countries on its borders at least a dozen times over the past century.  This is not new or particularly out-of-character behavior for President Putin or Russia or the Soviet Union.  If the Russian military was not so corrupt as to deprive its soldiers of appropriate weapons and training, then it would likely be over with by now.  In the West, we know who they are and what they're about, and that's why we oppose them.  There is no misunderstanding between us.  Our interests unavoidably clash, often violently so.

SpaceNut,

ITAR items can end up in the hands of prohibited persons or countries when they're first transferred to other countries with a legitimate end use, then stolen or improperly disposed of.  This is why transfer of American military technology, or dual-use technology, is so perilous.

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#366 2022-10-29 17:40:39

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Seems like Russia got blitzed by some kind of modified water drones, Russians used 'Swarm Robot' tactics in Syria, is an approach to the coordination of multiple robots but this could be something new, there are also rumors of old modified P-270 Moskit old Soviet supersonic  anti-ship cruise missile updated and used but these seem to be a kind of naval drone or Unpiloted ship or Uncrewed Surface Vessel, I believe the French operate a Remote Survey Vehicle but this might be an existing drone / unmanned boat which is modified to attack?

Sevastopol harbor?

'Massive' drone attack on Black Sea Fleet - Russia
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63437212

Russian Minesweeper Hit By Maritime Drone
https://funker530.com/video/russian-min … ime-drone/

Maritime Drone Attack on Russian Black Sea Fleet
https://funker530.com/video/maritime-dr … sea-fleet/

Russian Frigate "Admiral Makarov" Hit By Maritime Drone
https://funker530.com/video/russian-fri … ime-drone/

It would appear Tank warfare and Ship warfare has totally changed and the Russians using old tactics are totally outdated and exposed by new technology.

In other news

'Russia says British navy personnel blew up Nord Stream gas pipelines'

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ru … 022-10-29/

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#368 2022-11-15 13:48:36

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So, it may be that Russia just "accidentally" struck Poland with missiles, killing two Polish citizens...

Yay. At least we get to stay warm. Very, very warm, for a very very brief period.

(I do not think it will go that far. I hope it will not. An agreement for America to "accidentally" bomb a Russian city would suffice, perhaps.)


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#369 2022-11-15 14:01:34

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If anyone has time to investigate, I'd be interested in a follow up to a hint I ran across in the newsfeeds today, that Mr. Putin may NOT be ** in charge ** in the Kremlin .... an author who claims to be knowledgeable (for what that's worth) is asserting that the FSB (successor to the KGB) is the agency that is running Russia these days.  (th)

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#370 2022-11-15 14:55:52

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#1: Nobody over here in America is talking about nuking anyone or anything.  That's all on Russia.

#2: A couple of errant missiles landed on the wrong side of the border.  If it happens again, then we'll conclude it was a deliberate attack.

#3: As an American, I'd much rather bomb the nearest air base or fuel / ammo dump feeding oil and munitions into Ukraine.

Murdering more Russian or Ukrainian civilians isn't helping this problem.

If vengeance is deemed necessary, then we should attack legitimate military targets, of which there are plenty to choose from.

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#371 2022-11-15 15:46:43

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...aaaand now it seems likely that it was a Ukrainian air defence missile. Bit awkward all round really. NATO weapons being used to kill NATO civilians, albeit accidentally.


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#372 2022-11-15 21:13:22

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There are a lot of problems with a binary response to Russia.

You have to keep in mind that there are a lot of stupid people who do not understand just how terrible the costs could be.

Many of them are used to sending little boys off to the slaughter and to also kill. 

I don't think it dawns on them that their pride could get them personally damaged.

And there are parties not exactly of either side that might imagine that if we pound each other to rubble, then they can inherit the world.  So, maybe don't trust the cheer leaders either.

My diagnosis is that this is yet another example of the south trying to make the north submissive.

Some of the wicked cities are Dublin, London, Paris, Rome, Athens, some unnamed.

There is a reason the Slavs are called Slavs.  It is because the "Civilized" peoples used to take them as Slaves.

The rivalry between the Poles and the Russians is rather old.  I regard that they are Catholic, as they don't want to be German or Russian and of course their own nation and languages.  So, the Vatican may have been a power center they could get some help from.

My feeling is that the Russ and the Slavs of the North should be very careful to work together to not be exploited by the peoples to the south.  The Ukraine is on a fault line between Polish (Ish), and Russian influences.  To let this be exploited while putting the world in danger is criminal.

But keep in mind I do not have a favorite.  I just wish that there could be a cease fire of some kind.

One joyful party for the killing is arms dealers.  Tax Money>>>Daddy Warbucks.

Done.

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#373 2022-11-20 10:06:17

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#374 2022-11-21 12:00:52

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#375 2022-11-24 11:03:59

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Void wrote:

There is a reason the Slavs are called Slavs.  It is because the "Civilized" peoples used to take them as Slaves.

This is not true, and I would be glad to correct your misbelief. In fact, the family of nations (and family of languages) which are called "Slavs", got their self-name "Slavs" (or, more correctly, "Slovian") out of their own language(s). Not any connotations with "slavery", this is only a coincidence from the very different language.

The word "Slovian" derives from the Slavic word "Slovo", which means "Word". So, the "Slovians" could mean, in Slavic languages, "those who know words", "those who use words", "those who use words properly", etc. That way, if we try to most correctly translate the word "Slovian" into English, we would probably get something like "Wordie".

Void wrote:

The Ukraine is on a fault line between Polish (Ish), and Russian influences.

Our nation, Ukraine, is not "on a fault line" between Poland and Russia. We are independent and rather old nation, the only problem is, we were for a long time in some or another form of union with Russia - to illustrate it, imagine if Scotland declared independence from England. There is no "fault line" between Poland and Russia. Poland, Ukraine and Russia are three different Slovian nations. And by the way, it's possible to find lots of words which sounds nearly similar in Russian and Polish languages, but are quite different (with other root) in Ukrainian language. This is to prove, that Ukrainian language is not "a kind of mixture of Polish and Russian", Ukrainian is quite independent language, much similar rather to Croatian than to Russian or Polish.

Void wrote:

To let this be exploited while putting the world in danger is criminal.

It should be mentioned, that Ukraine have had quite enough of weapons, including nukes, when we declared Independence, dissoluting USSR. Those weapons would be quite enough to prevent the current war, and hundreds of thousands of lives would be saved. But, after the declaration of Independence, Ukraine had been put under constant pressure from Russia and the U.S., to give up all nukes, and after that, to give up lots of conventional weapons. In return, we Ukrainians heard lots of safety assurances. "You are safe, no need to worry, why you want to stay so armed, are you going to begin some war?" We tried to explain, that Russia could want to invade and conquer Ukraine, we would be in danger without weapons. But we heard, "don't be paranoidal, no problem , Russia is under control, everything is under control, you are safe - and so, why you don't want to disarm, Ukraine, are you going to begin some war?" And we tried to be good, we didn't want to begin any war, and so, we Ukrainians signed Budapest Memorandum in order to have a written assurances in our safety.

And now, we all see the price of all those words and assurances. Ruled by evil KGB regime, Russia started full scale invasion, in order to conquer Ukraine - precisely, as it was predicted. Probably it's not needed to remind, what atrocities they do with our people on occupied territories. So, where are our weapon? And where are our assurances of safety?

I, personally, do not need to see those Russian tanks near to my house. I even do not need to see those Russian missiles flying over my house, they provide much more merciful death as compared by tanks, but even missiles are quite not welcome here. I would like to see my beloved Ukraine to be nuclear state, and than the war would not even started. But, even on the current state of things: the sides who signed the Budapest Memorandum (i.e. the U.S. and Britain, and their allies) should do all what they could do, to recover this mistake, this crime, this catastrophe - of this disarmament of Ukraine. This means, they should give all needed weapons to Ukraine.

Ukraine needs weapon, weapon, weapon - and all other stuff that is needed in time of war. And all this should be provided in order to comply the assurances of the Budapest Memorandum. PACTA SUNT SERVANDA.

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