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For Calliban re return to the forum:
It is good to see your ID back in the Active list.
The Admins made an attempt to contact you immediately after the onset of the recent outage caused by a spammer attack.
We were unsuccessful, because your secure email service (very politely) refused to forward our message. I presume the reason is that our email address is not on your approved contact list. Please add our NewMarsMember email address to your approved contact list. Then! Please notify us so we can initiate a contact to verify the email is good.
We don't ask much of our members, but having a valid email address is something that it seems to me is reasonable to request.
Here is the earlier post ...
For Calliban re secure email service...
During the recent outage, Admins reached out to you to let you know we were continuing to meet at the "Lifeboat" site (new-mars.org/phpBB3/)
However, it turned out our contact email is not in your "approved" list, so your secure email provider courteously informed us we would not be permitted to send email to you. However, interestingly, they ** did ** respond to our inquiry with a personal, very courteous, business-like explanation. What it boils down to is that we are in need of you adding us to your approved contact list.
We would like you to add newmarsmember{at}gmail.com to your approved list, and then notify us via Housekeeping that your account is ready for a test.
We will then send you a test message.
We would like to have everyone up to date within some reasonable period of time.
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Thanks. It is good to see the forum up and running again.
I think my original e-mail has gone inactive. I will update with a new one this week.
"Plan and prepare for every possibility, and you will never act. It is nobler to have courage as we stumble into half the things we fear than to analyse every possible obstacle and begin nothing. Great things are achieved by embracing great dangers."
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Thank you for getting to that peski little thing we call email
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I keep getting this message when attempting log-on:
'Bad CSRF hash. You were referred to this page from an unauthorized source.'
Any idea what this means?
"Plan and prepare for every possibility, and you will never act. It is nobler to have courage as we stumble into half the things we fear than to analyse every possible obstacle and begin nothing. Great things are achieved by embracing great dangers."
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For Calliban re #404
What the message you quoted "means" depends upon the point of view of the recipient.
To kbd512, that message probably means something very specific about an issue that arose in the complex Internet environment as the PHP software of our web site tries to deal with issues that arise due to the asynchronous nature of traffic.
To a lay person like me, that message suggests that a cookie got lost. When you open a session with NewMars.com/forums, a cookie with a hexadecimal code is stored on your device. That code gets passed back and forth between your device and the host servers, and if a single bit gets lost in all that movement, then the host or the client raises a flag, and the flag might look like the message you reported.
Your report implies the message is happening to you more than it should. I have seen the error, but so rarely that I can't remember what was going on at the time. The fact your packets have to travel across an ocean and then across an entire continent should NOT ordinarily have any effect on the reliability of the connection, but I introduce that fact as something that might (or might not) be involved.
Timing might be an issue, but that is harder for me to evaluate. There is a timer on a session with NewMars.com/forums. I don't know what the exact time interval is (I think it may be a variable controlled by an Admin like SpaceNut or kbd512). However, ordinarily, the host simply asks you to log back in if the session has expired. This is irritating if we have been trying a long post, or if we got a phone call and time passed between one sentence and the next. I have found that the solution is to open a new tab while keeping the one with the post right were it was. I log back in, and the browser creates a new session cookie. Then (if all goes well) I open the tab with the post that failed, and run preview to refresh the post and then submit. If all has gone well, and the browser remembers the new cookie, then the post succeeds.
The Internet environment is unbelievably complex due to the asynchronous nature of transactions. I attempted to learn how to deal with that when I was working on something for SpaceNut. I learned about creating transactions that wait for a response in JavaScript, and made some progress, but never mastered the technique to the point I could build an entire application. Instead, I fell back up on an older technique involving use of timers in programming. The older technique works, but it is not elegant by a long shot.
I documented all that work quite thoroughly. There should be a topic about Javascript, and the work done to develop asynchronous processing for SpaceNut was documented but I don't remember where.
All that said, I would definitely be interested in details about what was going on when you next get one of these dropped cookie flags.
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