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but now, does it need any inputs but light from the sun? NO

It is theoretically possible to make it so that a rotating space station can have a biosphere that needs a negligible amount of input to sustain its biosphere.  This is what an outpost/base/colony of any size will need.

Firstly, wikipedia is very reliable.

Secondly, no, those are my own guesses.  However, I used them to illustrate that the only use for suborbit is quicker plane services.  Let me straiten something out for you:  If you were on a non-mooving pskyscraper 300 km tall, there would be about .95 g.  Suborbit is just like the vomit comet.  It has its applications, but very few of them.

Mars is The Object.  Other than Mars, the rest of the solar system is just one big mine.  Only Earth and Mars, Terraformed or not, can be a Home.  The moon will, in all probability, end up a no-man's land of mining towns and a few (seperate) tourist locations, which are generally circumvented because of the eventually created tourist resorts in closer GEO.   The current plan sees flags and footsteps around 2040.  With your plan, the first person there will be some greedy capitalist, somewhere in the neighborhood of 2150, there to bring the kind of chaos that the 'metanats' in RGB mars heft upon the martians. 

Do you really want that?

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that's the name for a life support system that need outside materials.  Ex. Earth= Closed loop life support system.  ISS= open loop (needs air, water, food brought up, waste brought down.)

Terraformer, you like the iss, don't you.  THE ISS IS A DEAD END.  It has an open loop life support system, it's orbit will decay in a matter of years, it's ineffficient, in an unhealthy environment, and is much too expensive.

but then the station needs to boost to regain the velocity it lost by speeding the rocket up.  Balloons are only helpful in suborbit applications.

I am going to create a thread for you in science and technology.  It will be called 'gaetanomarano's opinions on space exploration'.  Please post things like this there.

About the Weitian calendar (see link at top)  What was the martian perihelion directly before the viking probes landed?  The viking probes were the first things to land on mars, right?

I have pressure on air density above.  about 1-2 km/s are lost to drag in a craft launching from earth.  Launching from balloons to remove this is somewhat silly, as if you go too high, the balloons become too big to be economical

Not to mention that, as  you have stated multiple times, this is an excercize in minimalization.  As such, smallest gee is lower cost, not to mention, you could make the station wider.  this gives more space to grow the food, which you have explained, is the chokepoint.  BTW, where did you get your figures for the amt. of m^2 /person (foodwise)

acce4pting premise 2, wouldn't say, 1/2 g, or mars g be better?

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I would be glad to become a mod for Newmars

And maybe some sort of 'spammer vote' for the user's first 15 posts or so, like on their post, a mini poll saying 'mark this post as spam', and if it is, people camn vote, more than x number of votes and you (josh) get an e-mail?