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#176 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » That's Not a Comet, that's a Star » 2007-08-16 14:36:15

I love the visible "bow shock" as the star plows through the interstellar medium. 

Here's the associated paper ...

A turbulent wake as a tracer of 30,000 years of Mira's mass loss history
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 … 06003.html

#177 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » That's Not a Comet, that's a Star » 2007-08-16 06:10:48

http://www.universetoday.com/2007/08/15 … ts-a-star/

Mira is an older, red giant star shedding massive amounts of material into space. As the star moves quickly through interstellar space, the particles slow down, and remain as a long tail stretching behind. In fact, this tail is 13 light-years long, or 20,000 times the average distance of Pluto from the Sun.

...

[ Pretty picture ... ]

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/galex/20 … browse.jpg

#178 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Frigid Enceladus: an Unlikely Harbor for Life » 2007-08-16 06:05:58

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=23264

A new model of Saturn's icy moon Enceladus may quell hopes of finding life there. Developed by researchers at the University of Illinois, the model explains the most salient observations on Enceladus without requiring the presence of liquid water.

...

#179 Re: Terraformation » Microterraforming » 2007-08-16 02:44:46

So the major problem is the h/300 spot size.  The light from a single km^2 of reflecting surface gets spread out over a large area and requires a much larger collector area to compensate.  The next thing to consider is putting a focusing lens in front of the mirror.  The lens adds mass and reduces efficiency (transmissivity is always < 100%) but, with fairly moderate tech assumptions, it turns out to be quite an improvement.

Consider the orbiting flat circular mirror radius r again, right now it is acting as a light source that could be replaced by a point light source ~300.r further from the surface.  So, if a convex lens the same size as the mirror, with a focal length of 300.r is placed in front of the mirror, it will compensate for the beam divergence caused by the finite angular size of the Sun, and the spot size on the surface will be r (ignoring atmospheric scattering). 

That is, ignoring other complications for the moment, a 1 km radius mirror + 1 km radius lens with focal length 300 km = 1 km radius spot size on the surface.  This is independent of orbital height, so the mirror can be conveniently placed at Martian GEO.  With 50% total efficiency, this pretty much yields the illuminated 1 km^2 goal, and the mirror alone would have a conservative mass estimate of ~30 tonnes, which is fairly reasonable considering the tonnages mentioned in the posts above.

But what about the lens mass?  I think you could use this technology ...

Inflatable Fresnel Lenses as Concentrators for Solar Power
http://www.techbriefs.com/content/view/1833/32/

... but designed as a collimating lens.  So the design would look something like this ...

- vacuum
- front gas membrane (i.e., the planet facing part of the inflatable structure)
- collimating Fresnel lens
- inflating gas (Nitrogen seems to be the standard)
- reflector surface (microns thick coating of Aluminum)
- rear gas membrane (Mylar?)
- control elements (even GEO needs stationkeeping)
- vacuum

The 30 tonne estimate includes the gas membranes, the reflector surface, and the control elements.

The mass of the inflating gas depends on the structure volume and inflation pressure.  At GEO distance, the ideal 1 km radius dish has a depth of 15 mm, which would create a volume of 120,000 m^3 for a symmetric structure.  Typical inflation pressures are on the order of 100 Pa (i.e., 1/1000th of an atmosphere), so if temperatures within the structure can be kept reasonable (shouldn't be hard with constant solar illumination), then the gas mass ~ 150 kgs (i.e., negligible).

The cited article gives a figure of 2 kg/m^2 for a 250 micron thick Fresnel lens.  That's a mass of 6000 tonnes, which dwarfs all the other figures, but it still compares favorably with the 13,000 tonnes previous best case.  However, I don't think an order of magnitude improvement is overly optimistic (50 micron, using polycarbonate lens material), so that would put the total system mass at ~630 tonnes.  Still not a done deal, but a huge improvement over previous estimates.  A project that could conceivably be undertaken at some point.

#180 Re: Terraformation » Plasma Life » 2007-08-15 10:15:57

Here's the paper (it's open-access) ...

From plasma crystals and helical structures towards inorganic living matter
http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/1367-2630/9/8/263

Could provide an interesting environment for nanotech (plasmatech?) applications like molecular assembly as well.

#181 Re: Intelligent Alien Life » Important Discovery! » 2007-08-15 00:54:32

Ah, the ever-fresh "artificial structures on Mars" meme.  I particularly enjoy the post-modern twist of using a reference image as close as possible to random dots.

#182 Re: Terraformation » Microterraforming » 2007-08-14 04:04:25

The reason they use convex is because they want to inflate them with a gas charge.

 

I'm all for inflatables where it makes sense, but I'm sure I saw inflatable concave dishes out there.  There was an inflatable ring with the reflective film stretched across it.  I can't remember how they made it concave.  I'll look into it.

Here you go ...

Cassapakis et al., Inflatable structures technology development overview, Sept 1995
http://www.lgarde.com/papers/overview.pdf

... basically, you have 3 parts - an inflatable ring, a back film that is coated with something reflective, and a front film that is transparent.  The two films are joined at the edges like a balloon, as well as to the ring.  The reflective coating is on the inside of the "balloon".  You inflate the ring and the space between the two films to form the concave reflective dish.  You can even change the focal length of the dish by varying the gas pressure.

#183 Re: Life support systems » Mars first crew greenhouse » 2007-08-13 17:46:54

Is any of this research really helping to allow for a manned trip for Mars?

From what I've read they are researching:

Suits
- Wear & tear
- What you can/can't do in a suit
- Accidents per month, accident type
- Emergency procedures

Human Factors
- Team size
- Team composition
- Team structure
- Adaption to 25 hour day
- Remote healthcare

Hab design
- Time and motion studies (esp. working with experts @ 40 min. comms. delay)
- Lab equipment, computing requirements
- Routine EVA facilities (esp. "dustlock" issues)
- Life support loop closure
- Waste handling

#184 Re: Terraformation » Microterraforming » 2007-08-13 02:27:57

I've mentioned some imperfections and inefficiencies, and cumulatively they have a significant effect, so they are worth looking at a bit more closely. 

The first is imperfect mirror reflection.  For solar sail type reflectors, reflectivity is typically in the range 0.8-0.9.  I used 0.9.  This can go higher, but if you need 20% extra mass to get a 10% improvement then it is not worth it.

Next is counter-reflection by the Martian atmosphere.  The paper quoted 9%.  I rounded that up to 10%.  This will likely only get worse as terraforming takes place.

Next is latitude inefficiency.  Most of the analysis above assumes that the mirror is reflecting at least 90% of peak light to its target.  I conservatively use a 0.9 multiplier here to give some wiggle room.  As noted this rules out orbit heights below 1,700 km for year-round illumination, I include lower heights in the table below for reference anyway.

Next is longitude inefficiency.  Again, the analysis assumes at least 90% of peak light is reaching the target.  However, a 0.9 multiplier is less conservative here because the longitude constraint should really take into account orbital position, so I use 0.85 based on some quick modeling.  These last two factors are dependent on the orbit scheme, and it is quite possible that they (and/or the number of sets) can be improved.

That gives a total inefficiency of (0.9)(0.9)(0.9)(0.85) = 0.62.  I use 0.6 for every case except GEO and the statite where I use 0.7 to highlight that longitude inefficiency doesn't apply.  The final reduction is a nod to pointing inaccuracy, out of service time, and everything else I haven't thought of.  I should probably have used 0.5.

The following table shows the reflector area required to send Mars full daylight to a spot with radius r' throughout the Martian night from orbital height h, taking into account the total inefficiency ...

h (km) -- r' (km) -- reflector area (km^2) -- concave mirrors (radius km)

214,000 (statite) -- 714 -- 2.3 million -- 1 x 850
17,000 (geo)   -- 58   -- 15,000 -- 1 x 69
9,500 (geo/2)  -- 33   -- 17,000 -- 3 x 42
6,400 (geo/3)  -- 22   -- 16,000 -- 6 x 29   
2,800 (geo/6)  -- 10   -- 3,000  -- 6 x 13   
1,700 (geo/8)  -- 6    -- 1,300  -- 8 x 7.7 
1,000 (geo/10) -- 3.6  -- 840    -- 13 x 4.6
500 (geo/12)   -- 1.8  -- 400    -- 25 x 2.3
300 (geo/13)   -- 1.1  -- 260    -- 42 x 1.4
200            -- 0.74 -- 180    -- 62 x 0.96

The concave mirrors column shows the minimum number and size of concave mirrors required to provide the reflector area.  However, as mentioned above, at geo/3 and below, you would likely use smaller mirrors in a single orbiting ring.  For example, to provide the 1,300 km^2 reflector area for the geo/8 case, you could use 430 x 1 km radius flat mirrors, or 43,000 x 100 meter radius flat mirrors, in a circular orbit inclined ~42 degrees to the ecliptic.

Current solar sail projections use mass estimates that correspond to betwen 5 and 10 tonnes per km^2.  So conservatively, multiply reflector area by 10 to get the mass in tonnes, e.g., 13,000 tonnes for geo/8.  There was an interesting paper that talked about using dusty plasmas for solar sails ...

Sheldon et al., Dynamic and optical characterization of dusty plasmas for use as solar sails, Jan 2002
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2002stai.conf..425S

... that yeilded the equivalent of 1 tonne per km^2 (1% reflectivity, 10 kg/km^2), but that tech has a way to go before we even know if it is possible.

1,700 km seems to be the minimum height to allow for year round illumination (and the target would need to be between latitudes 35 and 45), so that sets our launch mass at 13,000 tonnes - not something we're going to see being launched from Earth any time soon.  It does get you 30 km^2 of continuous full Martian daylight (and up to 75 km^2 of partial daylight).  That could give you a pretty interesting microclimate, but it seems a stretch that resources would be dedicated to such a project any time soon.

#185 Re: Terraformation » Microterraforming » 2007-08-12 01:41:50

In addition to the latitude constraints in the previous post, the mirrors will have a similar longitude constraint.  For example, mirrors at 300 km can also only contribute 90% of peak reflected light to longitudes within +/- 4 degrees of the longitude directly below - and, actually, it isn't even as good as that since that is only for the most efficient midnight position, but mitigating factors such as having multiple mirror sets in orbit means that it will do for a first cut.

With increasing orbital height this becomes less of an issue, since the mirror doesn't have to tilt as much to move its reflected spot on Mars' surface.  For example, at h = 6400 km (geo/3), a mirror could deliver 90% of peak to anywhere in the nightside hemisphere ... if it were a flat plane.  But of course the planet's surface curves to make a sphere, which sets an upper limit of +/- 30 degrees as a longitude constraint, no matter what the orbital height, with geosynchronous being a special case because the mirror doesn't need to tilt for latitude.

The longitude constraint is important because, below GEO, the surface and the mirror move through their "orbits" at different rates.  For example, at h = 9500 km (geo/2), a mirror will move through 180 degrees of orbit in the time it takes for the target to move through 90 degrees of longitude.  Because of the longitude constraint, and the desire for continuous illumination, naively, the number of degrees of nighttime surface longitude a single mirror set can cover is 60/(n-1) where n is the number of complete orbits per Maritan day.  That is, you need 3 sets of mirrors (180/60) for geo/2 and 6 sets of mirrors (180/30) for geo/3. 

I can't find better solutions for geo/2 or geo/3, but there are better solutions for lower orbits.  I use orbits like the one in the second figure above that skim the shadow cast by Mars.  In the geo/2 case I use 3 orbits - one for each mirror set - but with one rotated clockwise 45 degrees, and one rotated counter-clockwise 45 degrees with respect to the pictured orbit.  One orbit covers from twilight to twilight + 60 degrees, the pictured orbit covers from twilight + 60 degrees to dawn - 60 degrees, and the final orbit covers from dawn - 60 degrees to dawn.  In other cases I use the single orbit pictured. 

You can use multiple orbits in every case, but you save by not doing so.  For example, you could use 6 separate orbits in the geo/3 case, each covering 30 degrees of longitude, but once you get to 6 separate mirror sets, you can just place them equidistant in the same orbit to provide continuous coverage.  Then you only need to add more sets once the longitude constraint drops below 60 degrees (which happens somewhere around the 2000 km mark).  In fact, at geo/3 and below, you can think in terms of a continuous ring of mirrors in the pictured orbit having a certain reflector density.

Once the longitude constraint ( = [(h.tan(60))/(pi.r_Mars)].180 ) drops below 60 degrees, the number of sets required is just 360/longitude_constraint (to give continuous illumination).  Fractional values are fine it you are just going to use lots of smaller mirrors (it just increases the reflector density), but if you are going with single large concave mirrors, then you'll need to round up ...

Orbital height (km) -- number of sets required

17,000 (geo) -- 1
9,500 (geo/2) -- 3
6,400 (geo/3) -- 6
2,800 (geo/6) -- 6
1,700 (geo/8) -- 7.3
1,000 (geo/10) -- 12.4
500 (geo/12) -- 25
300 (geo/13) -- 42

The number of required sets is independent of the number of mirrors per set, but the number of mirrors per set is much lower at lower orbital heights, which more than makes up for the number of required sets in terms of total reflector area.  However, GEO is most efficient in terms of how much illuminated surface area you get for your total reflector area.  I'll leave reflector area calculations to next post

I'll be the first to admit that these may not be the optimum orbits, and they have quite a large effect on the total launch mass of the system, so if you think of better orbits I'd love to hear about them.  I considered the HEPOs mentioned in the paper, but orbits with h = 300 km can only efficiently reflect light 4 or 5 degrees shadow-ward of their (necessarily high) inclination (at 18 degrees the light per unit area would drop to 10% of peak), so they wouldn't be able to reach the target for most of its nighttime hours.  This seems a serious flaw to me (and occurs with convex mirrors as well as flat), but I'll be happy to hear why it isn't.

To be continued ...

#186 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Space hotel sees 2012 opening » 2007-08-11 16:14:27

http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyl … 6520070810

BARCELONA, Aug 10 (Reuters Life!) - "Galactic Suite", the first hotel planned in space, expects to open for business in 2012 and would allow guests to travel around the world in 80 minutes.

Its Barcelona-based architects say the space hotel will be the most expensive in the galaxy, costing $4 million for a three-day stay.

...

Galactic Suite began as a hobby for former aerospace engineer Claramunt, until a space enthusiast decided to make the science fiction fantasy a reality by fronting most of the $3 billion needed to build the hotel.

...

[ But, as an investor, why wouldn't you just back Bigelow? ]

#187 Re: Terraformation » Microterraforming » 2007-08-10 03:05:23

Again imagining Mars half in day and half in night, and, say, an equatorial orbit (pretending Mars has no axial tilt for the moment), you can see that the orbiting mirror would spend half its time in sunlight (on the inefficient reflecting side of the orbit) and half its time in shadow (on the efficient reflecting side of the orbit).  If the Sun is eclipsed by Mars from the point of view of the orbiting mirror, the mirror can't reflect any sunlight to the surface, so the orbit has to be inclined ...

mirror_orbit.jpg

In both figures north pole is up, in the top figure we're looking from the side, in the bottom figure we're looking from behind (inside the shadow and back towards the Sun).

In the top figure, the orbit is inclined just enough so that it exits the shadow at its "highest" point.  The bottom figure shows that you don't have to do any more than that to make sure the mirror is always in sunlight.

The required inclination (phi) depends on the orbital height.  From the geometry ...

sin(phi) = r_mars / ( r_mars + h )

Some inclination angles for some orbital heights ...

h (km) -- min r' (km) -- phi (degrees, approx)

214,000 (statite) -- 713 -- 1
17,000 (geo) -- 57 -- 10
9,500 (geo/2) -- 32 -- 15
6,400 (geo/3) -- 21 -- 20
2,800 (geo/6) -- 9.3 -- 33
1,700 (geo/8) -- 5.7 -- 42
1,000 (geo/10) -- 3.3 -- 50
500 (geo/12) -- 1.7 -- 60
300 (geo/13) -- 1.0 -- 67

Actually these angles should be slightly smaller to avoid only the umbra, and slightly larger to avoid the penumbra, but they are fine for this purpose.  I've also included the (ideal, unachievable in practice) spot size radius (r') for reference. 

The "geo/n" in brackets means the mirror orbits Mars "n" times in the amount of time it takes for Mars to rotate once.  I stopped at 300 km because that seems to be the minimum h for efficient stationkeeping.  Below that height, the atmosphere will be dense enough to deorbit the mirror without constant and significant orbital height adjustments.  Here's some heights at which Martian atmospheric densities are equivalent to Earth's atmospheric densities ...

Earth height from surface (km) -- Mars height for same pressure

400 -- 200
500 -- 220
1000 -- 300
2000 -- 375

Many would recommend the 2000 km equivalent height (i.e., 375 km on Mars) to guard against density inflation during solar storms.

Other than just constraining the set of useful orbits for the mirrors, the minimum inclination angle also constrains the surface latitudes that the mirrors can efficiently light up.  For example, a mirror at 300 km can only contribute 90% of peak reflected light to latitudes within +/- 4 degrees of the latitude directly below it (again because of mirror tilting so that the target sees an oval).

But I've probably been abusing the term "inclination" angle because I've been ignoring axial tilt.  Mars has an axial tilt of 25 degrees (just a little more than Earth), so the latitude "directly beneath" the mirror in, say, the northern summer, will be 50 degrees to the south in the northern winter.  On this basis alone, you might set the minimum orbital height to 1700 km (geo/8) if you want to be able to continuously light up a particular patch of ground throughout the Martian year.

To be continued ...

#188 Re: Civilization and Culture » Intellectual Bigotry? - The chances of it effecting plans? » 2007-08-10 00:12:55

Hopefully, a factor in the selection of Mars researchers/"colonists" will be wisdom.

Tough job for the selectors.  How will they discern the applicant's wisdom?  200 question Blade Runner-style voidcomp?

"Describe in single words, only the good things that come in to your mind about: your mother."

#189 Re: Terraformation » Microterraforming » 2007-08-09 18:50:57

One issue with a light mass large diameter structures of this type is that we are creating a solar sail

Yes, orbital adjustments have to take that effect into account.  It isn't a first order issue though for a couple of reasons:

- For Mars, the acceleration due to light is less than the acceleration due to Mars' gravity until out around the 200,000 km mark (it depends upon the specific mass of the mirror, for example, at 7 g/m^2, the balance point is closer to 300,000 km).  This is the basis for Forward's statite idea.  The statite effectively hovers at the balance point.  But the acceleration due to light is basically constant in this region, whereas the acceleration due to gravity increases in proportion to 1/r^2 as you come in closer to Mars.  For close orbits, e.g., h < 1000 km, the acceleration due to light will be, not negligible, but quite small.

- If you imagine Mars half lit by the Sun, and half in shadow, with the mirror orbiting, you can see that the mirror can't reflect anything at noon (surface time), and that it reflects best at midnight.  In between, the mirror reflects with varying efficiency depending on the surface target.  For example, if a flat circular mirror above the terminator between day and night wants to light up a spot directly beneath it on the terminator, the efficiency is ~70% (ignoring all other complications) because the surface "sees" an oval rather than a circle.  The efficiency quickly drops off towards noon (0% efficient) and gets better towards midnight (100% efficient), so one strategy could be to use the mirrors to light up the surface during the night half of the orbit, but during the day half of the orbit, to use them as solar sails for orbital adjustment.  Orbital height isn't the only useful adjustment either, in particular, you probably want a sun-synchronous orbit which requires control of the orbital precession.

So the solar sail effect will probably be more helpful than anything.  It might not be enough though.  We might need some sort of solar-electric propulsion (SEP) for stationkeeping.

#190 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Followup on the Heim Drive » 2007-08-09 03:39:58

If the Tajmar result is true - that we can generate gravitational fields from EM fields at the level he describes - then all the rest follows.

But we can't  sad

Tajmar rules out his own result in his latest paper ...

Search for Frame-Dragging in the Vicinity of Spinning Superconductors
http://arxiv.org/pdf/0707.3806

He finds something else, but it is hyperweird ( signal when rotating clockwise but not counter-clockwise - WTF? ).

Blah.

#191 Re: Terraformation » Microterraforming » 2007-08-09 01:36:02

I read this article and the main thing that struck me is that the chance of NASA increasing the cost of the mission many fold to make the area around their astronauts a bit warmer just won't happen.

You could possibly justify a small system on safety grounds.  What if two or three 80 ton payloads to Mars orbit could keep temperatures in a 1/2 km radius circle above freezing day and night?  What if the heating caused a 15 mbar "high pressure" zone - enough to prevent your skin from blistering in case of a suit tear?  What if the same system tripled your solar power production and eliminated the need for high mass power storage?

I was really surprised that they found that 9% of the sunlight was scattered by the atmosphere.  With Mars air pressure being a near vacuum, I would have guessed a much lower number.

Well there is still ~100 km of atmosphere which includes layers and clouds and dust.  They said the rovers received just 1% of normal daylight during the worst of the current dust storm.

The reason they use convex is because they want to inflate them with a gas charge.

 

I'm all for inflatables where it makes sense, but I'm sure I saw inflatable concave dishes out there.  There was an inflatable ring with the reflective film stretched across it.  I can't remember how they made it concave.  I'll look into it. 

I remember they complained that you needed to continually reinflate  due to gas loss to the vacuum - which limited the lifetime of the dish.  They were working on something that would let you harden the support structure in place once you inflated it. 

I think the biggest lifetime issue for space solar mirrors is the control momentum gyroscopes (CGMs).  CGMs are perfect for the pointing needs (high mass efficiency for the performance), and are electrically powered, but they have bearings that wear out in ~10 years.  That's not too bad for the smaller systems ( say < 500 tonnes ), but if you invest in a bigger system, replacing gyros or relaunching mirrors is going to be a pain.

They make up for the spreading of light with additional mirrors.

 

Yeah, but not enough by a long shot by my calculations.

The paper says that the convexity results in an angular magnification of 22.  So the h/300 factor goes to ~h/16.  Even at h = 200 km, that gives a spot size of radius ~13 km.  You'd need 30000 convex 75 meter radius mirrors to build up the center of that spot to Mars normal daylight, let alone Earth normal daylight, and that isn't even taking into account imperfect reflection, atmosphere reduction or orbital considerations. 

I may be misunderstanding the paper though.

I think that they are trying to make the mirror as flat as possible given how they hope to deploy it.

In another place in the paper (the radiative transfer section), the mirrors seem to be treated as though they were flat.  So maybe they are substantially flat.  It's a little unclear.

#192 Re: Terraformation » Microterraforming » 2007-08-08 03:45:15

I was quite inspired by this paper ...

Rigel Woida, The Road to Mars: A computer modeled analysis of the feasibility of using Large Deployable Reflectors to redirecting solar radiation to the Martian surface, May 2007
http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/students … _Rigel.pdf

... recently discussed here ...

Methods of terraforming - How to go from bone dry & lifeless
http://www.newmars.com/forums/viewtopic … 2&start=20

The paper is big on ideas but a little short on detail.  I wanted to get a better handle on the physics of the situation so I could examine new scenarios (heating bigger areas, enhanced solar power, melting large quantities of water ice, etc).  I thought NewMarsers might be interested as well.  My calcs are a bit at odds with the paper, so you might want to compare and contrast.

The paper uses convex mirrors.  That seemed wrong to me.  You've got this orbital mirror with a certain area (A) collecting sunlight and you're going to reflect that to an area (A') on the Martian surface.  Say A' = 10A, then the intensity of your reflected sunlight at the Martian surface is going to be 1/10th (on average) that collected at the mirror (ignoring complications like imperfect reflectors for the moment).  Convex mirrors spread light out over a greater area, so you get lower intensity at the surface or you need more mirrors.

So my first step was to try and work out A' for a given A - just with flat mirrors, 'cause you can build convex and concave mirrors out of those.

I read some old papers on Solares (the mirror only version of solar power satellites) like ...

Billman et al., "Space reflector technology and its system implications," Feb 1979
http://pdf.aiaa.org/GetFileGoogle.cfm?g … e=mtgpaper

... and heliostat technology for solar towers (which has a lot in common), but the best paper I read for this purpose was ...

Mills et al., Reflections of the 'Burning mirrors of Archimedes', June 1992
http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0143-0807/13/6/004/

... which is a really fun read.

A' doesn't equal A even for plane mirrors because of the finite angular size (alpha) of the Sun.  Usually this factor isn't so important, but at orbital distances it is dominant.  Working with circular mirrors ...

r' = r + h.tan(alpha/2)

... where:
r is the radius of the mirror,
r' is the radius of the reflected spot on the surface, and
h is the height of the orbit above the surface.

The tan(alpha/2) factor is small ( = radius of the Sun / Sun-Mars distance ) but h is big.  The Sun-Mars distance varies (1.4-1.7 AU), so I'll do the examples with the worst case (1.4 AU) which gives

h.tan(alpha/2) ~ h/300

i.e., if you're orbiting at 1200 km, your spot on the surface has a radius of 4 km (plus mirror radius).

So then the ratio A'/A = (pi.r'^2)/(pi.r^2) = [1 + (1/300).(h/r)]^2

The orbital stuff is quite hard, so I'll leave it for the next post, but the geostationary orbit provides a simple example ...

h_mars_geo ~ 17000 km
assume r_mirror = 1 km
then r' = 58 km and
A'/A ~ 3300

So you would need (ignoring complications for the moment) 3300 flat 1 km radius mirrors, each aimed at the same spot on the surface, to yield Mars full sunlight (say 600 W/m^2) throughout the 58 km radius spot.  Or, equivalently, a 58 km radius concave mirror with its focus point at the center of the surface spot (the 3300 flat mirrors can be considered a Fresnel implementation of the concave mirror - each has the same reflecting area).

Actually, because you are effectively creating an image of the Sun, and the edges of the Sun are darker than the center ("limb darkening"), you only get full sunlight (say, 90% of peak) in an inner circle of 1/2 the radius, but the point of the example is that, from Mars GEO, you can't make the spot smaller and just concentrate the sunlight on, say, 1 square kilometer.  To do that you have to go closer. 

But when you go closer, you lose the nice properties of geosynchronous orbit and you have to think about satellite ground tracks, scan rates and avoiding the shadow cast by Mars.  It turns out to be worth it though. 

To be continued ...

*** EDIT

Corrected ideal concave mirror radius.

#193 Re: Exploration to Settlement Creation » Foot hold for manned missions » 2007-08-07 01:26:15

#1 ... #13

NASA rates technologies on a readiness (TRL) scale from 1 (wild fantasy) - 9 (proven system).   NASA is probably of the opinion that the TRL in these areas is too low, that is, a theoretical solution might exist, or even a prototype that works under ideal conditions, but the detail work that results in a usable (and ideally proven) system is still to be done. 

You can have different opinions from NASA, but if you opt for too many unproven systems, one of them will cause mission failure.

With the use of probes that have made it to mars and the data that they have collected one would think that some of these if not most have been explored with answers or direction as to what will solve each area.

This June 2005 paper by the Mars Human Precursor Science Steering Group ...

An Analysis of the Precursor Measurements of Mars Needed to Reduce the Risk of the First Human Mission to Mars
http://mepag.jpl.nasa.gov/reports/MHP_S … 02-05).pdf

... identifies the following precursor investigations ...

The following four investigations are of indistinguishable high priority.

1A. Characterize the particulates that could be transported to mission surfaces through the air (including both natural aeolian dust and particulates that could be raised from the martian regolith by ground operations), and that could affect hardware’s engineering properties. Analytic fidelity sufficient to establish credible engineering simulation labs
and/or performance prediction/design codes on Earth is required.

1B. Determine the variations of atmospheric dynamical parameters from ground to >90 km that affect EDL and TAO including both ambient conditions and dust storms.

1C. Determine if each martian site to be visited by humans is free, to within acceptable risk standards, of replicating biohazards which may have adverse effects on humans and other terrestrial species. Sampling into the subsurface for this investigation must extend to the maximum depth to which the human mission may come into contact with uncontained martian material.

1D. Characterize potential sources of water to support ISRU for eventual human missions. At this time it is not known where human exploration of Mars may occur. However, if ISRU is determined to be required for reasons of mission affordability and/or safety, then, therefore the following measurements for water with respect to ISRU usage on a future human mission may become necessary (these options cannot be prioritized without applying constraints from mission system engineering, ISRU process engineering, and geological potential):

The following investigations are listed in descending priority order.

2. Determine the possible toxic effects of martian dust on humans.

3. Derive the basic measurements of atmospheric electricity that affects TAO and human occupation.

4. Determine the processes by which terrestrial microbial life, or its remains, is dispersed and/or destroyed on Mars (including within ISRU-related water deposits), the rates and scale of these processes, and the potential impact on future scientific investigations.

5. Characterize in detail the ionizing radiation environment at the martian surface, distinguishing contributions from the energetic charged particles that penetrate the atmosphere, secondary neutrons produced in the atmosphere, and secondary charged particles and neutrons produced in the regolith.

6. Determine traction/cohesion in martian soil/regolith (with emphasis on trafficability hazards, such as dust pockets and dunes) throughout planned landing sites; where possible, feed findings into surface asset design requirements.

7. Determine the meteorological properties of dust storms at ground level that affect human occupation and EVA.

This Feb 2006 report from the Mars Exploration Program Analysis Group ...

Mars Science Goals, Objectives, Investigations, and Priorities
http://mepag.jpl.nasa.gov/reports/MEPAG … 0-2006.pdf

... includes a "Prepare for Human Exploration" section with detailed descriptions of the measurements they would like for the above investigations.

#194 Re: Interplanetary transportation » New ERV (earth return vehicle) idea » 2007-08-07 00:07:55

Mars Direct (for people) and many Mars Sample Return missions (for dirt) have proposed using the Sabatier Reaction to make methane (natural gas) for fuel from Mars' CO2 atmosphere. 

Since the fuel for Earth return has a higher mass than the Earth Return Vehicle, this is the easiest way to save mass.

Unfortunately, the multiple processes required to turn iron ore (and lots of other things) into a rocket are a long way from being made low mass enough for them to be shipped to Mars.

#195 Re: Not So Free Chat » The Area of Ptyxur » 2007-08-06 23:51:57

Sorry for being completely off topic, with absolutely no relation to anything anyone is saying here at all

Actually, it isn't so off topic.  There is a lot of discussion in the Dorsa Brevia section of the board that echoes discussions on micronation boards.  A nostalgia for the challenges and opportunities that the frontier once offered.

#196 Re: Life support systems » What would be the best method of maintaining fertile fields? » 2007-08-06 19:08:42

The acid is pretty easy to neutralize (managing soil pH is a major agricultural activity here on Earth), but the heavy metals are harder.  For bulk soil processing, two promising methods are electroremediation (wet the soil and run a current through it - the heavy metals migrate to the cathodes) and phytoremediation (plants that suck up and store heavy metals - there has been talk of using this as a mining method).   Today grasses are used for phytoremediation, but it may be possible to develop microbes.
 
See also ...

Building soil
http://www.newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5466

Building Soil with Salt Marshes
http://www.newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5474

#197 Re: Life support systems » Communication on Mars » 2007-08-06 18:14:46

Well, WiFi is radio - it's digital, not analog, but then most comms is nowadays.  The nice thing about digital is that you can use it for video & data as well as voice.  Your cell phone will soon have WiFi built in so that you can make free calls through the internet.  You can also use it to control your bots. 

The nice thing about packet switching (as opposed to point to point) is that you can quickly set up redundant routing to anywhere on the planet.  If one node goes down, the system can automatically route around. 

In military scenarios, digital is a must for encryption and authentication (friend or foe ID).

#198 Re: Exploration to Settlement Creation » Foot hold for manned missions » 2007-08-05 21:21:49

The NASA DRM identifies the following as R&D targets [my comments in square brackets]:

    * Resource Utilization [i.e., ISRU]
          o Extraterrestrial mining techniques [best way to move Mars dirt]
          o Resource extraction process and chemistry [ISRU demonstrators]
          o Material preparation and handling in reduced gravity
          o Extraterrestrial manufacturing [what would we like to make, what can we make]

    * Transportation and Propulsion
          o Advanced chemical systems that provide high performance and are compatible with the resources available on the Moon and Mars
          o Nuclear propulsion to enable short trip times to Mars
          o Aerocapture/aerobraking at the Earth and at Mars for propulsive efficiency and reusable systems [a successful aerocapture demonstrator would be a huge help with EDL issues]
          o Lightweight/advanced structures [carbon composites]
          o Reduced-g combustors [changes the plume dynamics]

    * Cryogenic Fluid Management
          o Long-term (years) storage in space
          o Lightweight and high efficiency cryogenic liquefaction
          o Zero g and microgravity acquisition, transfer, and gauging

    * EVA Systems
          o Lightweight, reserviceable, and maintainable suit and PLSS [making sure everyone has a working suit for at least 18 months is not trivial]
          o Durable, lightweight, high mobility suits and gloves [let's make the counterpressure suits work]

    * Regenerative Life Support Systems
          o Contamination and particle control [need a "dustlock" for Mars dust]
          o Loop closure [to prevent wastage]
          o Introduction of locally produced consumables [no trace toxins]
          o Food production [greenhouse demonstrator]
          o Trash and waste collection and processing
          o High efficiency and lighter weight active thermal control systems [cooling fins are way too heavy at the moment]

    * Surface Habitation and Construction
          o Lightweight structures
          o Seal materials and mechanisms [that will last for 18 months]
          o Construction techniques using local materials

    * Human Health and Performance
          o Zero-g adaptation and countermeasures [and low-g adaptation and countermeasures for that matter - long term: what are the pregnancy complications?  what are the infant growth complications?]
          o Human factors
          o Health care at remote locations [vs mass, crew skill sets]
          o Radiation protection in transit and on surface

    * Power Generation and Storage
          o Long life, lighter weight, and less costly regenerative fuel cells
          o Surface nuclear power of the order of 100kw
          o High efficiency solar arrays

    * Teleoperations/Telerobotics
          o Remote operations with long time delays
          o Fine control manipulators to support wide range of surface activities
          o Telepresence sensors and displays

    * Planetary Rovers
          o Long range (hundreds of km) rovers
          o Motor lubricants (long-term use)
          o Dust control
          o High efficiency lightweight power generation and storage

    * Advanced Operations
          o Automated systems control
          o Systems management and scheduling
          o Simulations and training at remote locations

    * Fire Safety [i.e., particularly in high pO2 environments]
          o Fire prevention
          o Fire detection
          o Fire suppression

However, these don't really go into colonization issues.

#199 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » The Clean-Slate City-State » 2007-08-05 01:09:09

Good questions.

"The Clean Slate Solution" (http://cleanslate.editboard.com/Discuss … on-t23.htm) should give you some answers.

Ah, I didn't realize you were requiring apocalyptic oil & climate scenarios.  Yes, well, I suppose in that situation everything is possible.

#200 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » The Clean-Slate City-State » 2007-08-05 00:08:11

Portions of it may attempt to replicate great historic meditierranean cities. Other parts may be like London or New York. Variety should be the number one mantra.

Hmmm, it seems I need to step back a bit. 

What will be the advantages of Clean Slate City over conventional cities?  Maybe we could just focus on, say, the top 3 advantages for the moment.

this city will its own sovereign state; isolated from the rest of the country

Why will Australia cede sovereign control of its territory to you?  In particular, why will it give up its power to tax Clean Slate City?

people will pay a premium to live and work in the city. People will come here because they want to, not because of need. It will not be a 'dumping ground for the poor'.

Is Clean Slate City only possible if its inhabitants are wealthy? 

In your mind, what are the main problems caused by including poor people?

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