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#1301 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » "Star Wars" missile defense - practicle? » 2002-12-18 15:49:08

yet another test failed a couple of days ago.  did someone already mention this?

#1303 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2002-12-18 15:42:50

caltech, there is nothing honorable about war.  my grandfather had half his leg blown off by a landmine in ww2.  im sure he would trade his purple heart for his leg.

im older than you, and im closer to military age, and trust me, we have no perspective.  we werent living when men were coming home in body bags during the vietnam war.  we treat violence as a game.  there are people in the world who know what true suffering is, who dont fear death.  americans cant understand this, and probably never will. 

look at it from the standpoint of the terrorists.  many of them are brainwashed to believe that we have caused all their suffering.  3,000 people to them is nothing.  what would you do if someone was starving you, or invading your country?  let them?

im not condoning it, but you just cant look at it from one side of an argument.  and there are many things that you, like me, dont understand.  theres no shame in that, but dont act as if you do.

#1304 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2002-12-18 15:30:19

josh, i know exactly how you feel.  it sounds like me saying it-i constantly say the same exact thing.  im just answering your question.  i didnt say whether or not i thought they did have weapons...i think they do, but i dont think we belong in a war with iraq.

i think the far better approach would be to lift the sanctions.  they never work.  if we did, the iraqis would say they won, but the people might hate us less if we were feeding them.  i dont think bush ever intended to take a diplomatic route.  he's taken every diplomatic step forward clinton made, and reversed it.  korea was advancing beautifully when clinton left, and there was almost a sense of hope in israel-palestine.

if he wanted to go to war, do it.  you cant say youre going, then say youre not, then say you are.  the administration is seeking any excuse to send troops over.

#1305 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2002-12-18 15:12:58

No, we dont.  We didnt have any evidence that the soviet union was violating the biolgical warfare treaties until we sent in investigators around the time of the unions collapse.  they found a program far more extensive than ours, capable of producing things like anthrax, the plague, smallpox, and others in huge quantities (tons). 

just because its well hidden doesnt mean its not there.  for all we know, there could be no nuclear weapons, or biological weapons, in iraq.  but i doubt that.  bush's ranting for 8 months let the iraqis know wed check the palaces.  if they didnt, theyd be idiots.  kind of weird that one month they said, "nope, cant look there." and the next, "oh sure, well cooperate fully."  sounds a little too convenient. 

like i said, theres no proof, but i doubt someone producing weapons would make it visible to the world.

#1306 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Project Orion Revisited. - Why not an Earth Launch? » 2002-12-18 14:31:16

ive heard that theyre shutting down nuclear plants across the US and Europe.  if theyre truly safe, its a shame.  i guess we'll have to wait until fusion comes out for widescale nuclear power.

btw, how do the radiation and waste stats of fusion compare to those of fission?

#1307 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2002-12-18 14:22:32

and perhaps next time a force threatens to take over europe, we should turn our backs on them the way theyve turned their backs on us.

#1308 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2002-12-18 14:21:12

You are aware that Al Quida was backed by the CIA, and had recieved training from CIA agents, no?  These are the kind of foreign policy mistakes we should look into.

we didnt train them to kill us, if thats what youre getting at.  the soviet union abandoned countries they invaded too, but since they collapsed, they dont get the same resentment. 

its true that we're economically imperialist.  so what?  thats our right.  if we were truly imperialistic, we would take over the middle east, and not pay for the oil there.  this is true imperialism.  people use the word too loosely.  we are very lax when it comes to dealing with threats in general.

we have had some foreign policy mistakes, yes.  israel is not one of them.  neither is keeping saudi arabia's government stable with our troops and money.  the alternative is far worse.  our war with afghanistan was not a mistake.  not using more force to isolate bin laden was.  iraq treads a fine line, and could turn into a big disaster if bush doesnt get a handle on what hes doing.

another thing-bin laden is a figurehead, a pocketbook.  he was no great warrior.  he goes on the air and provides money.  we have killed or captured most of the main commanders of al-qaeda.  al-zawahiri is the biggest one left, and hes the real brains of the group.  i dont believe this crap about the US "letting" bin laden go, the guy is running for his life.

that said, where is the righteous rage against the russian war with chechnya?  or the chinese "assimilation" of tibet?  or any number of other actions by major powers that are ignored?  its kind of ironic when european nations call us imperialist--believe me, if they could have the power we have, they would be just as "bad" as us.  we use our power conservatively.

#1310 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2002-12-18 05:29:59

3: Look at the motivations behind the attack, and make changes in foreign policy to prevent terrorists from having the motivation to do such a horrible thing.

no.  just because they dont like our foreign policy, doesnt give them the right to kill innocents to "protest" it.  we cannot give in to terrorism.  we are a sovereign country, with a right to have whatever foreign policy we want.

#1311 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2002-12-17 20:24:29

when was the last time you saw an old guy blowing himself up?  i havent.  the terrorists are like cigarette companies-they go for the kids.  the terrorists are afraid to die, so they convince the young that they will be martyrs, since young are easy to brainwash-they dont have world wisdom (i dont, ill admit it). 

they have more blood on their hands.  they convince their own children to kill themselves to hurt innocent people without warning.  this is something americans would never do.

#1312 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Ozone hole and Global Warming » 2002-12-17 18:15:05

fuel cell engines would help tremendously.  china's three gorges dam will provide immsense amounts of power--i dont think theyll need too much fossil fuel power. 

nuclear power would help reduce emissions too.  fission would be useful, isolated from people, because despite the claims by some thats its completely safe, and others that theyre death traps, i think that they are very important, but we should treat them with care.  once fusion comes, we have our situation set.

#1313 Re: Not So Free Chat » God, Creation, and the Universe Explained! - Life, the Universe, and Everything. » 2002-12-17 17:29:14

but by perceiving the madness, dont you inevitably become a part of the madness of perception that you claim to stand apart from?

#1314 Re: Space Policy » A Mass Mailing of "The Case For Mars" - Mass Mailing to Congressman » 2002-12-17 17:23:07

word code...well lets just say i have to translate it to "clean code."  thatll take me about a week.  then i can start to expand on it.

#1315 Re: Planetary transportation » Crawlers - Segmented multilegged rovers » 2002-12-17 16:58:30

no...robots used for human assistance dont need to be so slow.  cargo robots, when they are needed, later on, can be built on site to be as large as needed.  robots now are only so small and slow because a large rover is hard to control, and the robots used now are operated from a long distance, constantly checking back for new instructions.

on mars, a steady video link could be established, and the rover could constantly be given new programming, chips, etc, based on what they find.  they can be adapted.  replacements could be built to adapt.  the rovers now are built slowly for caution-if it goes, its gone.  a little metal on site could turn into a new rover.  hell, a little plastic could too.  these rovers would be ideal for mapping. 

and they could be used either way, there is no reason why they couldnt.

#1316 Re: Human missions » why we can't get public and political support » 2002-12-16 22:26:15

education should be centered around learning--not tests.  i am far more in favor of a few long research projects or reports to show that the student has an understanding of the topic.  classroom discussion is also better than testing.  i dont even bother cramming, because all i do is pay attention, no homework no study.  gets me an A. 

i think studying makes people do worse, because they get nervous...this is what i dont like about tests.  i also think single shot performance evaluations in jobs are less telling than long term evaluations: you see the good days and the bad days, and the sense of immediacy and anxiety is not there as much.

#1317 Re: Planetary transportation » Crawlers - Segmented multilegged rovers » 2002-12-16 22:21:01

if youre operating it from a base, you dont have to wait 12 minutes.  it is also fairly easy to have it compute the gradient itself (if its a yard in front, it can be programmed to slow down, shift its sonar arm to see whats further in front, and decide whether to proceed or go...this is all pretty simple programming), so it can be semi-independent.

#1318 Re: Mars Rovers / University Rover Challenge » Pressurized Rover Designs - How far away are we? » 2002-12-16 19:16:45

from an article i read, you really dont need infrastructure for hydrogen fuel cell cars.   in a prototype (which just needs to be scaled up-its been tested), a pure hydrogen oxygen fuel cell gets 800 miles to a tank, and hydrogen tanks are sold with the car.  each tank lasts for about a month (assuming about two fills a month), and costs $20.  my family spends about $100 a month driving, at a high guess, 500 miles. 

best of all, the filling could be done at home.

#1319 Re: Space Policy » A Mass Mailing of "The Case For Mars" - Mass Mailing to Congressman » 2002-12-16 18:21:18

http://www.angelfire.com/space/zentrand … ociety.htm

if anybody cares to see my preliminary work. smile

if anybody likes it, i could expand on it

netscape doesnt like it, but ie does.  netscape is kinda picky  ???

#1320 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2002-12-16 18:20:11

thats not the point.  private industry could have done it by now if it was so easy.

#1321 Re: Space Policy » A Mass Mailing of "The Case For Mars" - Mass Mailing to Congressman » 2002-12-16 15:32:28

ive got a little something done on word if anybody wants to see it.  given another day or two i could have it much nicer.  what i did is the basic format...imho its a lot more friendly, and less overwhelming.

#1322 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2002-12-16 15:08:16

josh, if it was so easy, and our private sector has been working on fuel alternatives for so long, why hasnt it been done yet?  the government can't stop the companies that arent affiliated with oil-gm, ford, chevy, fine.  but there are small companies specifically chartered to research fuel cells, or solar cars.  and this has been going on in canada and europe now.

why is it just now that california companies are starting to come out with revolutionary cars.  I forgot the site, but I saw a very very interesting prototype that should be commercially available by 2004-5 (the prototype has been tested, its just being scaled up for the average family).  It goes 800 miles on a hydrogen tank, and it is sold with an accompanying tank, so you can fill up in your home.  The govrenment is trying to stop this, but they cant, it has been upheld in court.  This means that the most fuel maintanence youll need is a new $20 tank once a month, and maybe a spare tank for long drives.  amazing!

#1323 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2002-12-16 14:09:53

caltech, you forget, we had a huge air force on our carriers and bases.  we could have blown up any ship building we witnessed immediately.  and what were they going to run their ships on?  water?  they lost all their oil sources when the americans swept across the pacific. 

they were starving.  who was going to regroup?  they had very little left to strike back with.  you really have to learn your facts. 

and you cant nitpick, and then call an end to debate, especially when your points are pretty off.

#1324 Re: Space Policy » A Mass Mailing of "The Case For Mars" - Mass Mailing to Congressman » 2002-12-16 14:05:21

give me a week and ill have a homepage ready (without links and all, just what it would look like.  links are easy to do).

#1325 Re: Interplanetary transportation » Project Orion Revisited. - Why not an Earth Launch? » 2002-12-16 14:03:04

Nothing since, the environmentalists prophecies of endless catastrophes have been proven to be nothing but babble. I think it's nuclear or nothing.

if something works, we should use it, whether or not it comes with the nuclear tag in it. 

what im saying is, if its safe and effective, we dont have to throw it out because its not nuclear.  and vice versa.

and i support nuclear power, but chernobyl didnt seem like babble to me.  neither did hiroshima or nagasaki.  now, dont take this and say im anti-nuclear, im not.  but you cant be too extreme either way.  saying there are no drawbacks to anything is ridiculous.

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