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Physics says,H2 or He will transfer inside the carbon nano tube because of the following reasons:
1.) Physics says,any pressure differential = flow.
A differential of pressure of -30" of mercury in space and 15psig at sea level. Will cause the flow of molecules.
2.) Physics says, heat always flows from warm to cold.Temperature differentail between space, and sea level. Average temperature is 0 degrees in space,and 80 degrees at sea level. The temperature in space near earths orbit in sunlight is +250 degrees. In the shade it is -250 degrees. Thus, the average temperature is around 0 degrees.
3.) Physics says, rotational velocity increases as distance increases from Earths axis increases. Thus, as the molecules flow outwards their velocity increases.Wow, this reminds me of the Earth as being a big pump thowing the molecules outward like the vanes in a pump. Earth the giant pump!!!
4.) Physics says, energy will be conserved in a closed tube.
5.) Physics says, H2 and He make it to space every day and it is not even in a tube it is just floating around freely. It is constantly escaping Earths gravity.
ANY THOUGHTS OUT THERE???????
Yea, we would be here forever like two rams butting heads.
Hey, here is another thought. What if you shot a particle beam of hydrogen up the tube with out it hitting the sides?
I disagree.
H2 would make it out of the atmosphere, and into space in greater volumes if it had no oxygen to react with. Right?
There is nothing for H2 to react with inside the tube. Therefore, it will rise into space. Pressure difference = Flow.Energy is conserved inside the tube. Physics says so not me.
Nitrogen, Oxygen, etc also escape, but much slower than even the light gasses. These molecules escape at a lower velocity because they are more massive, and gravity wants to hold them to the Earth longer.
Sounds neat where would you get the AP?
At the height of 20 miles the Helium is still enclosed inside the rubber balloon, what happens? It becomes neutrally bouyant within the atmosphere because it still has the weight of the rubber balloon surrounding it,and it can't continue up further. Now pop the balloon.The Helium continues on up,and into space.
Man if I had money to waste like Bill Gates I would build all kinds of stuff. Even if it didn't work. It would stimulate the mind to think of something new to build.
The gas may even accelerate inside the tube since the energy and kinetics are conserved inside the tube. As the radius extends further and futher from the axis the gas may even accelerate along the tube. It reminds me of a pump impeller slinging the water outward from it vanes due to its rotational velocity. Could the Earth actually be a large pump?????
Look at a hydrogen or a helium filled balloon as it goes up, and gravity does not hold it to Earth. The hydrogen or helium would continue to go up to space, if it was not contained in the rubber. Who would want to run a computer model just to see what would happen?
One must not forget that the energy will be conserved within the tube. So the differential of pressure between space at one open end and sea level the other open end is what creates the flow. Pressure difference = flow no matter how you look at it, and no matter how long it is.
Troposhere, stratosphere, mesosphere. Ionosphere and thermosphere = exosphere.
H2 or He escapes them all. Gravity can not contain H2 or He to earth. Perhaps, the magnetosphere can though but not all of it???
Answer this simple question. Does Hydrogen or Helium escape the gravity of Earth, and make it to space? Yes or No??? The answer will be the same for the tube. BTW sea level is not the bottom of Earths gravity well.
I agree. Who knows how life evolves on other planets we don't even know how it evolves on this planet.It does look like some of them are replicating into other spheres. This image has a broken sphere in it. The break is clean, and the surface is smooth, and you can make out a nucleus near the center.It is just below the sphere that looks like it is dividing into two seperate spheres.
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I disagree. If H2 and He make it to space it is not bound to Earth by gravity.Inside the tube it would have nothing to interact with because the purity is almost 100%. Even if it was, the gasses could be forced up the tube, and into space all the way from the ground. This would save billions of dollars trying to shuttle extra fuel to space.
Well, now that they have put the RAT on it, it doesn't look like anything but a chocolate chip cookie. If they had used a finer grit it would have shown that dark spot in the center. That broken peice shows the spot because it cleaved with a smooth surface.
Perhaps, since the gravity is less on Mars water can make it closer to the surface by capillary action between the fine particles of sand.
The smokestack theory works. Natural circulation occurs because of the temperature difference between the two elevations.
I have seen the effects of this already working. The physics already work in a tall smoke stack. Air comes in the bottom and air goes out the top. Prove me wrong???? The same will work with H2 out this long tube extended into space. Also, you can't calculate 15 psi per sq/in through out the whole column as the pressure changes with altitude. BTW I was messing with GraemeSkinners hat, and not the physics portion.
So, whatever amount escapes from the top no matter how small, is also being resupplied at the bottom. Therefore, a continious flow is occuring. Now it becomes a volume problem. How much is actually escaping and at what rate? Frictional losses,tube diameter, diffential of pressure, and heat losses all have to be calculated. BTW what flavor hat do you like, and what is your address so I can send you one? Don't take me seriously just messing with ya!!!
I agree but the force of gravity alone is not great enough to confine these elements to Earth. If it was, then they would not escape to space. The concentration of the H2 or He in the tube would be near 100%. The concentration of H2 or He outside the tube is far less than 1%. Therefore, they have nothing to combine with inside the tube, and will flow freely to space.
Ah, but it still proves these gasses rise up, and they eventually make it to space even without the tube as long as it does not combine with other atoms on the way. The solar wind then carries them away. For H2 to make it all the way up is hard to do because it is a hungy molecule, and will combine with just about anything in our atmosphere. As long as there is a pressure difference between space,and sea level a flow will occur. Pressure difference = flow. Gravity does not hold these molecules to Earth. If it did then they would not make it to space.
Well, the smaller it is the less chace it has for being hit. Also,it can be protected from being hit with a shielding that is not attached.
You wouldn't need to apply extra pressure.It will flow because of the difference of pressure. Nothing has to be attached at the bottom.
Hydrogen, and helium do make it up through the atmosphere all the time if it does not combine with somthing on the way up. Some of it escapes to space, and is carried away by the solar wind.
The inside is diameter is 1/4 inch.