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Exactly what I am talking about.They have them but they are not showing them to the taxpayers. Others are first.BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO on esa.

Same ole pics!

My point is they already have them but they are not showing them. Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo on esa!

Ok here it is!
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Worst images ever award goes to Huygens. Images from the first Xerox Machine from the sixties while running out of ink look better than that crap on that web site. Thank God for JPL they wouldn't even show that garbage.

I'm not even touching this. These are the first shots ever of a new moon that no one has ever landed on before. They might not be as high-quality as the MER pictures, but what were you really expecting? We landed on the moon, can't you be happy?

I'll be happy when the last picture is posted in timely manner on the next mission. To late for this one.  

The whole thing is unfair to taxpayers.BOOOOOO!

Bla,Bla,Bla. I don't care what you guys think. We deserve it in real time not hours or days later. Put it out for a vote to the public and see how it turns out.

"There's nothing in the US Constitution or any other Constitution that says tax payers deserve to get all the information immediately."

There should be. Put that out for vote, also.

"After all, Mars Express is looking down through almost non-existent atmosphere, enjoying a virtually transparent view of the surface, while Huygens was peering and squinting through a dense, smoggy, foul atmosphere which blurred everything."

Still there should have been better planning for this. A WWII strobe light would have worked wonders when looking down while snapping pictures.

"Some of the people being criticised here spent decades on the project. They don't owe you, or me, or anyone else, a thing."

I don't care if they spent a lifetime. We deserve the pictures in real time and they don't own them anyways. We THE TAXPAYERS do. "The great and powerful taxpayer". When I go to the strore to buy a product I expect to walk out with it now. NOT IN TWO OR THREE DAYS!

"So the pictures aren't pin sharp. Big deal. It's not the first time. Lewis and Clark probably lost some of their sketches of flora and fauna on their epic trek across the US. Charles Darwin probably missed out on the opportunity to study universe knows how many exotic species as he explored the Galapagos."

Lewis and clark could make better sketches than those pictures.

"Some of the people being criticised here spent decades on the project. They don't owe you, or me, or anyone else, a thing. They were working on our behalf, because we're not smart or dedicated enough to do the things they do."

I agree but the people in charge of releasing the pictures do.
I didn't wait 17 years for the pictures to come only to have them delayed for stupid reasons.No excuse here we should go it alone in the future. JPL far exceeds Brittons caveman technology and attitude about it.UGA! UGA!UGA!.

"What happened with the delay in releasing pictures is annoying, yeah, but when politics intrudes that's what happens. Yes, ESA could learn a lot from NASa and JPL re picture release, and they will, but c'mon, this kind of stuff is still new to us, give us a break. The guys at JPL have huge press offices, people who are good on camera, astronomical budgets... ESA just isn't geared-up for this kind of global attention. Yet. Give us time. We'll get better, you'll see."

Very annoying indeed. And you design a camera not suited to sell in Wal Mart. No back up circuits in case one fails for the price of ten cents I can buy one at Radio Shack. I'll be glad to donate a dime to your next project to install such a back up circuit.
Once you all come out of the stoneage at Stonehenge you may be able to compete with us.

We've waited generations to see these pictures, so a few more days wait won't kill us now, will it? Better and better images will be released, not just by ESA but by many of the unofficial imaging sources - we have one of them here on newmars, hi Doug! - and then we'll all be smiling like we were when the panoramas started rolling in from SPirit and Opportunity."

Why wait we can die tomorrow and never see them. No guarantees in life from what I have learned about it. Your thinking is flawed about this stuff.

"We should all feel humble and grateful. Not disappointed or angry."
I am very happy our cousins from Britton have had success and it reminds me of the days when we kicked your butts out of our country for such stupidity.What were all you thinking taxing our tea and such?

"If it keeps to its present course it'll bump into the Drygalski Ice Tongue."

I wonder if it could knock a piece of the Drygalski Ice Tongue off and cause a tidal wave bigger than the one in India?

I found this to be interesing from a Yahoo article.

"A boom mike extended from the 705-pound Huygens probe has captured a loud, rushing sound. Mission scientists did not immediately say what it might mean, but instruments on the probe have detected winds of about 15 mph."

Could a windmill and generator power the batteries for rover on Titan? Perhaps, You could let it charge for 18 hours then do six hours of science with such an idea?

The scientists should be able to look at them at the same time the public does since we pay for the mission. It is simply cheating all the publics hard work since they do all the hard work paying for such missions.

"Sure I want to see the better pictures, but that wouldn't be fair to fellow scientists to take their data before they had a chance to use it."

With the invention of the computer we can all see it at the same time. Your statement is just plain stupid and uncalled for.

3900 ft difference. Wow!