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Kind of disappointed that Cassini isn't skimming the rings like a madman, trying to get super close-up pictures (I believe the closest picture we got was while it pased through the gap in the rings). I was looking at the orbital plan and as far as I can tell, we're not going to get any close passes like I'm wanting. Hopefully at the end of Cassini's life, we will.
I like to live large, heheh.
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The pictures we've recieved so far are absolutely magnificiant, of course. And I am not complaining at all here, just making a general statement. The fact that we can literally witness fluid dynamics outside of our own planet is just absolutely astounding. We are literally looking at the movements of creation.
Yes I agree the pictures of Saturn and the Rings have been absolutely magnificiant, some wonderful shots of the Planet.
Josh Cryer, getting those pictures have been wonderful but you should also note this. When Cassini went for its burn and the orbital insertion it was taking a risk. It was do or die time for the mission, things could have gone nasty and you see can how close the craft got by looking an the little ring particles still stuck on the camera lens. The Saturn Insertion which brought it into the face of the wonderful rings was the last and most critical manoeuvre performed by the spacecraft to achieve its operational orbit. If it had failed, the spacecraft would have just flown past Saturn and got lost in the darkness of Space and all those years of wrok and the seven year journey would have been for nothing.
Other very important parts of the mission have now come to play such as the imaging of pheobe, the analysis of Rhea, collection information on the magnetosphere, getting info on Saturn's rotation, picturing the cloud formations in the northern hemisphere, finding a measure of the radiation zones, capturing data on the Moon Iapetus, and of course getting that hidden surface of that alien world on the moon known as Titan.
I would have loved to have seen the probe stay and take more great pictures of the rings but Saturn has so many things going on in its system so these will have to be dealt with also. The mission will continue for many years so hopefully we will be more great pictures of those wonderful rings but we might have to wait a little while.
you can check out the various paths the Cassini-Huygens craft will be taking on the esa 'Where is Cassini-Huygens now'
web page
http://www.esa.int/export/SPECIALS/Cass … QUD_0.html
Sometime in the future , it looks like the craft will be in some good positions to take more great images of those wonderful rings, but sadly as you say 'we're not going to get any passes as close as the orbital insertion' . Let's hope we can still get some good pics of those rings
poor Beagle oh well
Still more great info coming from Mars express
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/mar … ...Rim.jpg
The image shows a portion of the northern region of the Hellas basin at 68° E longitude and 29° S latitude. It was taken during orbit 488 with a resolution of 18.3 metres per pixel.
Have you got your 3D glasses ?
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/mar … ...Rim.jpg
3D anaglyph image
I suppose the Huygens probe could meet something bad, get ripped to bits by the Titan winds once its drops down into the moon ?
These attempts are not easy, Space even if you've been there before it is not a simple matter, Russia had failed many venus probes, China blew up rocket on the launch pad, the US had lost high tech stuff going to the Moon and Mars, the European Beagle craft was a disaster
Let's hope the little Titan probe goes safe
the pictures have been great
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Cassini-Huy … 6WD_0.html
you can read about the instruments on the craft here
its hard to know what Titan is like, but surface images would be wonderful. .let's hope the mission continues to do well
i think this is a nice photo, many details and a good little camera angle
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opport … ...0M1.JPG
shame about the black square block in the bottom corner blocking the pic
Did you read this
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMEDQL26WD_Ex … l#subhead1
Since entering orbit, Cassini has also provided the first view of a vast swarm of hydrogen molecules surrounding Titan well beyond the top of Titan's atmosphere. Cassini's magnetospheric imaging instrument, first of its kind on any interplanetary mission, provided images of the huge cloud sweeping along with Titan in orbit around Saturn. The cloud is so big that Saturn and its rings would fit within it.
I was reading more on the Smart-1 the ESA ion engine drives seems like a very good idea
http://europa.eu.int/comm/research/head … ...en.html
SMART-1’s ion engine will be used to accelerate the probe and raise its orbit until it reaches the vicinity of the Moon, some 350,000 to 400,000 km from Earth. Then, following gravity assists from a series of lunar swingbys in late September, late October and late November 2004, SMART-1 will be “captured” by the Moon’s gravity in December 2004 and will begin using its engine to slow down and reduce the altitude of its lunar orbit.
Testing breakthrough technologies and studying the Moon
SMART-1 is not a standard outer space probe. As ESA’s first Small Mission for Advanced Research in Technology, it is primarily designed to demonstrate innovative and key technologies for future deep space science missions. However, once it has arrived at its destination, it will also perform an unprecedented scientific study of the Moon. SMART-1 is a very small spacecraft (measuring just one cubic metre). Its solar arrays, spanning 14 metres, will deliver 1.9 kW of power, about 75% of which will be used for the probe's 'solar electric' propulsion system.
In its role as technological demonstrator, SMART-1’s primary goal is to test this new solar electric propulsion system. This is a form of continuous low-thrust engine that uses electricity derived from solar panels to produce a beam of charged particles that pushes the spacecraft forward. Such engines are commonly called ion engines, and engineers consider them essential for future, long-range space missions.
http://www.innovations-report.com/html/ … ...40.html
Ion engines have weak thrust, but they can provide almost endless power and continue on very long missions for huge times. I think we should use Ion engines in future Mars missions, very important. NASA should think about this method.
there was a news report here
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object … ctid=34479
look at the information here
There is another mission also
it looks like Europe and Japanese want to go there aswell, you can read about it at the ESA website. The EU is planning to deign a good craft with japan in the project with them.
The journey from Earth to Mercury will also be a first. The spacecraft must brake against the Sun's gravity, which increases with proximity to the Sun, rather than accelerate away from it, as is the case with journeys to the outer Solar System. BepiColombo will accomplish this by making clever use of the gravity of the Moon, Venus and Mercury itself and by using solar electric propulsion (SEP). This innovative combination of low thrust space propulsion and gravity assist will be demonstrated by ESA's technology mission, SMART-1.
When approaching Mercury, each spacecraft will use the planet's gravity plus a conventional rocket engine to insert itself into a polar orbit. Observations from orbit will continue for one Earth year.
Whilst the precise details of the BepiColombo mission are being defined, key technologies are under development at ESTEC, ESA's technical centre in the Netherlands.
2 orbiting craft into one mission probe to Mercury, the Mercury Planetary Orbiter (MPO), and the Japanese space agency ISAS/JAXA will contribute the other, the Mercury Magnetospheric Orbiter (MMO) into the Giuseppe (Bepi) Colombo mission a new deep-space probe using electric propulsion.
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object … ...id_2=30
I think NASA's MESSENGER probe will go there first and arrive earlier, but we shall see which missions go ahead
a five thousandth a second exposure on Earth is nothing special, if you have good lighting conditions, that is.
I'm impressed seeing such shutter-speeds that far out in the solar system, though, must be some big lenses...
By the way... Anyone ever considered that the 'real' look of those far-out planets would be *a lot* dimmer for the human eye than we see on the pics? So dim, in fact that we'd probably not be able to see colours.
Well you must also remember that the human eye is a marvelous thing. We can see mnay small details and objects near and far we can use our eye to as far as the Andromeda Galaxy
think about it
I think after a while our eyes might adjust to the light conditions to see the features unless there was no visible light in our solar system or somethings didn't come out under visible light and we had to use other means like Infra Red and Gamma Rays
Our eyes are great wonders of nature, if you look through a big telescope in the darkness of night. Your eyes will adjust to see features on Mars like valles marineris canyon, Isidis Planita, or Sytis Major.
http://web.qx.net/lhaddix/astroimages/m … ars2-3.jpg
http://www.weasner.com/etx/showcase/sac … -ccd19.jpg
With a big powerful telescope on Earth you can observe saturn, find its rings and look at some of its moons such a wonder our human eye is and a little extra help from a telescope.
One place we won't be able to see however is through the smoke filled aerosol and hydro carbon clouds of Titan. The Cassini-Huygens mission has been doing great so far with fantastic images.
Let's hope all goes well when Cassini goes on for Titan
it was great to hear the cassini-huygens probe is doing well
look at the good news,
mission goes into orbits round the ringed Saturn
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMAMG25WVD_in … dex_0.html
the esa have a lot of pictures from Saturn also and other details of the other missions such as the Mars surface from its orbiter
It's great to hear Cassini-Huygens mission is doing fine
I've got a good one here
HUNDREDS OF RAW IMAGES FROM CASSINI
check out those rings
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/i … ...dQ=1000
check this I found a picture of mars from a
backyard telescope on another website
check the ESA web site has a display of what's happening
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Cassini-Huy … QUD_0.html
and here with europe news
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Cassini-Huy … i-Huygens/
http://television.esa.int./default.cfm]http://television.esa.int./default.cfm
About the passing of the asteroids and of the gap between F- and G-rings.
Beside that, the density of particles is not as high as many people think.
It´s unavoidable Cassini has to pass the rings. The rings are stretching several Saturn-radii.
*Hi bolbuyk: Of course -- passing through the gap (G and F rings) is the best route for Cassini. But still, it worries me a bit.
I have a level of anxiety about this mission (and Hugyens too) that I haven't felt with others.
Don't know why (except perhaps my great affection for Saturn and its moons).
Julius Caeser and I both have our fingers crossed. :;):
--Cindy
::EDIT:: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.htm … 3246]Guide to orbital insertion! Includes time highlights!
*Cassini will take pics of rings too.
GO CASSINI!!!
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Saturns]http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish/article_1483.html?2962004]Saturn's rotation a "mystery"
Discrepancies between Cassini's data and that of Voyager.
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::EDIT 2:: This from spacedaily.com's "Saturn Daily":
"Although the Cassini spacecraft is scheduled to officially arrive at the planet Saturn on June 30, scientists studying the planet's magnetosphere received an official welcome on June 27 when a burst of plasma wave noise indicated that Cassini had crossed the planet's bow shock - the region where charged particles flowing outward from the sun collide with Saturn's magnetic field or magnetosphere."
that was a good set of web pages with information
and it has the important times
6:10 p.m. - Spacecraft turns so its high-gain antenna can shield the craft from particles as it crosses Saturn's ring plane.
7:36 p.m. - Engine begins burn, which will slow spacecraft down so it can be captured by Saturn's gravity. Burn lasts approximately 96 minutes.
8:54 p.m. - Cassini captured in Saturn orbit.
9:03 p.m. - Closest approach to Saturn of entire mission: 19,980 kilometers (12,400 miles) from Saturn's cloud tops.
9:12 p.m. to
9:22 p.m. - Engine burn ends.
9:35 p.m. - Spacecraft begins to take pictures of Saturn's rings
it is getting very serious now, make or break time is starting
Cassini is doing a gravity assist to slow down
There are also more images out from the Cassini-huygens mission, begins its detailed survey of the Saturn ring region for new moons, Cassini has recovered the tiny moon Atlas
http://ciclops.lpl.arizona.edu/media/ir … _238_1.jpg
and watch this Titan is flying around in rotations, Titan’s surface as the moon executes nearly one complete rotation under the spacecraft's camera watching
http://ciclops.lpl.arizona.edu/media/ir … _245_1.gif
Cassini is doing a gravity assist to slow down and going for the burn, We'll know in about few hours. Go for the burn!
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There more news that came out in the last while
And a nice image of Titan has come out, some people are discussing the posibility of life on the Saturn Moon.
http://ciclops.lpl.arizona.edu/media/ir … _217_1.jpg
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The Cassini spacecraft has beamed back a new, more detailed image of smog-enshrouded Titan.
This view represents an improvement in resolution of nearly a factor of three over the previous Cassini image release about Titan (PIA 05392). The observed brightness variations are real on scales of a hundred kilometers or less
http://ciclops.lpl.arizona.edu/media/ir … _217_1.jpg
here is some information from the ESA web page
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Cassini-Huy … QUD_0.html
The ESA/NASA Cassini-Huygens mission, launched in October 1997, is currently heading for Titan, Saturn’s largest moon.
The ESA Huygens probe will be the first ever to land on the surface of a moon in the outer Solar System, and the NASA Cassini orbiter will continue to explore Saturn and its rings.
On 1 July CEST (30 June Pacific Daylight Time), after a journey of almost seven years and four gravity-assist swing-by manoeuvres, the spacecraft will be inserted into its orbit around Saturn and will reach its closest approach to the planet.
The ESA TV service will provide extensive live coverage of all international press conferences, the orbital insertion operations on the night of 30 June to 1 July, and the presentation of the first images and results at JPL. All transmission and satellite details are published online and will be continuously updated at http://television.esa.int.]http://television.esa.int.
The ESA live TV line transmission of the orbital insertion will also be transmitted on Astra 2C, the satellite reception details being as follows:
Astra 2C at 19 degrees East
Transponder 57, horizontal, MPEG-2, MCPC
Frequency 10832 MHz, Symbol rate 22000 MS/sec. FEC=5/6.
The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Cassini-Huygens mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The imaging team is based at the Space Science Institute, Boulder, Colorado.
yes, the images of Phoebe have been great !
Very good detail , huge clarity and much better than anything before
it's amazing to think pheobe is a kuiper belt object and may be much older then Saturn
I think now they are starting to understand the true nature of these wonderful moons
there are more pictures just out
new image created which describes the detail of the small moon
http://ciclops.lpl.arizona.edu/media/ir … _221_1.jpg
This colorful graphic illustrates that despite Phoebe's bumpy, irregular topography, the moon has a fairly round shape. A digitally rendered shape model of Phoebe was constructed using Cassini imaging data obtained before and after the spacecraft's close flyby of the Saturnian moon on June 11, 2004.
The average diameter of Phoebe is about 214 kilometers (133 miles). The four views of the model are each separated by a 90 degree rotation; the upper left is centered at 0 degrees West longitude. The others show regions of the moon centered at 90, 180 and 270 degrees West longitude, as labeled. The coloring of the models corresponds to the height of Phoebe’s surface, relative to the lowest point – a range of about 16 kilometers (10 miles) – going from blue (low) to red (high).
this is great to see the moon in this detail
http://ciclops.lpl.arizona.edu]http://ciclops.lpl.arizona.edu
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The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Cassini-Huygens mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The imaging team is based at the Space Science Institute, Boulder, Colorado.
For more information about the Cassini-Huygens mission, visit http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov]http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov and the Cassini imaging team home page, http://ciclops.org.]http://ciclops.org.
very good mission
I really liked that mission, thought it was a great idea and it brought back great information about our Sun, good tracking and images of the Solar winds
http://sci.esa.int/science-e-media/img/ … _12398.gif
And from the gathered information the people in EU and the USA were able to make good iamges and models of details like the solar corona, solar wind, and spiral magnetic field
http://sci.esa.int/science-e-media/img/ … _24681.jpg
Ulysses was a very good idea for a probe and it had conducted the first-ever survey of the Sun's environment in space from the equator to the poles and first direct measurements of interstellar helium atoms going into energy and it also had made the newest discovery of energetic particle "reservoirs" surrounding the Sun, the discovery of interstellar dust in the darkness of our solar system, the probe is still going on bring back more information
here is some news on it
Deep space is cold. Very cold. That's a problem--especially if you're flying in an old spaceship. And your power supplies are waning. And the fuel lines could freeze at any moment. Oh, and by the way, you've got to keep flying for thirteen more years.
It sounds like a science fiction thriller, but this is really happening to the NASA/European Space Agency spacecraft Ulysses.
Ulysses was launched in 1990 on a five-year mission to study the sun. The craft gathered new data about the speed and direction of the solar wind. It discovered the 3D shape of the sun's magnetic field. It recorded solar flares on the sun, and super-solar flares from distant neutron stars. Ulysses even flew through the tail of comet Hyakutake, an unexpected encounter that delighted astronomers.
The mission was supposed to end in 1995, but Ulysses was too successful to quit. NASA and the ESA have granted three extensions, most recently in Feb. 2004. Ulysses is scheduled to keep going until 2008, thirteen years longer than originally planned.
Ulysses' extended mission, as before, is to study the sun. But at the moment Ulysses is far from our star. It's having an encounter with Jupiter, studying the giant planet and its magnetic field. Sunlight out there is 25 times less intense than what we experience on Earth, and Ulysses is getting perilously cold.
Back in the 1980's, when Ulysses was still on Earth and being assembled, mission planners knew that the spacecraft would have to endure some low temperatures. So they put dozens of heaters onboard, all powered by a Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator, or "RTG." These heaters have kept Ulysses comfortably warm.
But there's a problem: the RTG is fading.
"The power output of the RTG has been dropping since the spacecraft was launched," says Nigel Angold, the Ulysses ESA Spacecraft Operations Manager at JPL. RTG power naturally fades as its radioactive source decays. That's as expected. What planners didn't expect was 13 years of extra operations.
"When Ulysses was launched in 1990 the RTG produced 285 watts. Now it's down to 207 watts--barely enough power to run the science instruments and the heaters at the same time," notes Angold.
Inside Ulysses the temperature varies from place to place. "Many of the science instruments are already below freezing (0 C)," says Ulysses thermal engineer Fernando Castro. "That's OK, because they can operate at low temperature." But the fuel lines are another matter. They're hovering about 3 degrees above zero, "and if they freeze we're in trouble."
Fuel lines are critical to the mission. They deliver hydrazine propellant to the ship's eight thrusters. Every week or so, ground controllers fire the thrusters to keep Ulysses' radio antenna pointing toward Earth. The thrusters won't work if the hydrazine freezes. No thrusters means no communication. The mission would be lost.
About eight meters of fuel line snake through the spaceship. Every twist and turn is a possible cold spot, a place where the hydrazine can begin to solidify. "If the hydrazine freezes anywhere, I don't know if we can safely thaw it again," worries Castro. When hydrazine thaws, it expands, possibly enough to rupture the fuel lines. Ulysses' propellant would fizzle uselessly into space.
The temperature at any given point along the fuel lines is bewilderingly sensitive to what's going on elsewhere in the spacecraft. Turning on a scientific instrument "here" might cause a chill "over there," because it takes power away from one of the heaters. Firing a thruster, playing back or recording data: almost anything could upset Ulysses' delicate thermal balance.
Even the simple act of sending the spacecraft a message can cause problems. Systems engineer Andy McGarry recalls, "last month we were sending some new commands to Ulysses when the temperature began to drop, as much as 0.8 degrees C near the fuel lines. We were less than a degree from the freezing point of hydrazine--too close for comfort."
Engineers quickly figured out the problem. "All of Ulysses' science instruments had been activated to study Jupiter," explains McGarry, "and this was straining the RTG to its limit." Ulysses would have trouble supporting even one more device. But when a signal arrived from Earth, another device did turn on, automatically: the decoder, which translates radio signals into a stream of binary ones and zeros understood by Ulysses' computers. "The decoder was stealing power from the heaters."
Since then ground controllers have learned to keep their transmissions to Ulysses brief, so the temperature can't fall very far.
Ulysses is about to turn away from Jupiter and head back to the sun. Eventually solar heating will keep the hydrazine warm, and onboard heaters can be turned off, "but that won't happen until 2007," says Angold. Meanwhile, engineers at JPL keep a constant watch on the spacecraft.
Mission scientist Steve Suess at the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center believes it's worth the effort. "The extended mission gives us a chance to learn a lot more about the sun." Of special interest is the Solar Minimum. Solar activity waxes and wanes every 11 years, he explains. Ulysses studied the sun's quiet phase, Solar Minimum, between 1994 and 1995. Now Ulysses gets to do it again. "The next Solar Minimum is due around 2006," says Suess, "but it won't be the same as before." In 2001 the sun's magnetic field flipped. The north pole shifted south, and vice versa. Magnetically speaking, the sun is now upside down. How will that affect Solar Minimum?
Perhaps Ulysses will find out … if it doesn't freeze to death first.
let's hope it can stay alive
I knew most people would vote for Mars because it's such a great planet and this is afterall a 'Martian' website...
so i decided to go for the underdog and vote for one of my favourites .Neptune :laugh:
Thanks for the link Cindy..the Big Blue mission to Neptune sounds great, what a wonderful idea!
you can read some of the news on the Saturn moon article here and what they make of the images so far
Mars could be my favourite but I have another planet which I think is very good
Neptune it's rapid storms, its on the cold edge of the solar system. It has rapidly moving cloudy features. The Great Dark Spot (GDS) seen at the center is about l3,000 km by 6,600 km in size -- as large along its longer dimension as the Earth. The bright, wispy "cirrus-type" clouds seen hovering in the vicinity of the GDS are higher in altitude than the dark material of unknown origin which defines its boundaries. A thin veil often fills part of the GDS interior, as seen on the image. The bright cloud at the southern (lower) edge of the GDS measures about l,000 km in its north-south extent. The small, bright cloud below the GDS, dubbed the "scooter," rotates faster than the GDS, gaining about 30 degrees eastward (toward the right) in longitude every rotationIt is a myserious gas giant, the blue planet was predicted in 1846, after calculations by Adams and Le Verrier.
http://www.buddycom.com/space/uranepplu … A00052.jpg
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/ngifs/ … ne1996.GIF
it has some wonderful moons , Nereid, Proteus one big moon Triton actually has an atmosphere and volcanic vents of gaseous matter
http://www.stardome.org.nz/images/Trito … bg-sml.jpg
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