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Since the Death of Nicola Calipari Italy has not exactly been very forgiving of tresspasses against its sovereignty. This does hurt the USA in the court of world opinion and is likely to cause real trouble to the current pro USA goverment of Italy. They will likely have no choice but to actively demand the handover of the USA agents and to investigate who gave the orders.

The USA will not hand over the agents and this will result in a very serious diplomatic incident. Italy will likely tell the USA that its base near venice having been involved in actions against the constitution of italy then that base should go.

you beat me to it, 

A Corporate Democracy..... :hm:

Power by vote of shares.

Still Lockes life, liberty and property was an attempt to create a society seperate from the Feudal property and legal systems that where then current.

How would an authority be created that would have by the definition the power to grant ownership plots of land on Mars etc. Historically it has always been by a goverment that has the capability to defend that land that has given this power.

If there is no such authority so created then it comes down to the semi legal "I own it" therefore I can sell it that these companies offering plots as gimmicks do. In that case better start buying as they are the legal authority.

But im sure one day some country or group will make it to Mars and start heavy settlement and will be taken to court by someone who has claimed the land from Earth.

Ah but you live in a democracy and in the end you ellect your leaders and it is through them that you as the people Govern!

Without rehashing old arquements the USA did in all likely go into Iraq without too well a plan worked out for what to do when it had won the war. Fighting a war is a whole different matter than occupying the country afterwards. Best way to put it is to slip on the velvet glove as a mailed fist just will not work.

Still the USA can still "win" if that term can even be used and come out of Iraq with a friendly western leaning positive regime in existence. Its getting the current Iraqis to think that way and to hammer "politically" the opponents of that idea.

$250 million for a mission that will cost probably about $1500 million gives me only one impression.

They want NASA to divert funds from somewhere and so gain political capital from it. There can only be one place this money can come from and that is the CEV and the space exploration iniative. If NASA has to pull over a billion dollars to make an unprepared mission then the Moon Mars iniative will fail or be dealt a body blow it may never survive. It also leads to if you could cut then why not now politics. It leads to needing to fly another mission for the shuttle and could creep the shuttle past its retirement date. The worst thing though is that this underfunded cash if not used to put together and fly a mission to hubble will also lead to political gain as the next time that Griffin and NASA go cap in hand to pay for the next part of the Iniative they will be met with but we funded a mission to save the Hubble and you did not do that. So why give you money for what we have not asked you to do.

This is nasty politics and has nothing to do with science. It makes the committee look like "good guys" and whatever NASA does into a weaker bargaining position and weakens the Moon Mars program.

With a manned mission to the Moon likely to be happening in the next decade and with luck future missions to Mars it means a lot of people running around outside there craft.

Spacesuits from the Appollo age are almost 40 years out of date and our advances in material and electronic science does mean that there will be a lot better systems for our Astronauts to run around in.

http://www.newscientistspace.com/articl … 45.700]New Scientist article on a suit that will do a geologists work for him

This suit will allow geological work to be done even when by a non geological trained astronaut and increase mineral and resource knowledge automatically.

Well if we look at Astronautix you will see that the H1 was a licensed version of the USA's Delta. It had a 100% launch success rate and cost in 1990 $90 million. The H2A though is a JAXA design and though it doubles the capacity to orbit the maximum cost is in 1990 prices $90 million.

The problem is the H2A failed once and there is a lot of research going into why. The basic H2 though was expensive and has since been cancelled. What appears to have happened here is that they spent a lot of money to get its design to work but designed to be made cheaply.

The problem is reliability but this can be improved.

And humanoid robots are the buisness of NASA as well as JAXA the Robonaut program will show you. It allows for the use of ready made tools instead of brand new indigenous ones for each type of Robot used. This saves a lot of time and money and allows for Human centric developments to be used too. And there is nothing to stop the use of a specific design for a specific purpose ie robotic dumpsters will not be humanoid. JAXA just plans to use the best shape for the best purpose.

Maybe he only found out when he discovered the name of the fighter pilot that destroyed the Death star and he was from tatooine and strong in the force.

He would have then just added 1 + 1 = 2 and since this boy was the nephew of his brother and named skywalker and strong in the force a bit of a shock for him I believe.

And leia though was adopted out of the family her last name was Organna so no surprise he did not recognise her.

Taking it a bit off key for now.

http://www.spacedaily.com/2005/05061713 … Spacedaily article

An agreement has been reached as to who pays for the cost of any enviromental damage done and if cleared up by another country then it will be "charged" to the one responsible.

True but they where all more or less "his" scandals and she appeared the good dutiful wife. That can play both ways.

What Hilary Clinto does have going for her is that her husband is Bill Clinton.

From my observations of the USA there is a desire to return to what life was like before 9/11 and the war on terror. Then the USA had a budget surplus, it had no apparent enemies and the economy was booming.

Interesting is the opinion that most elections are decided by what are the free voters the undecided ones. Hilary will pick up a lot of support for being a woman but also loose it from the diehard anti feminists.

Yes she has a chance of being the next president and trust me having a women premier is not that bad. Look at what ours did for Britain and if you want ask the French who discovered her handbag had bricks in it