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Yes, not bad, and it isn't Curiosity's reflection, for the most part anyway.

Also unfortunately hard to tell whether it is corroded metal or rock, but worth posting.

At least here we can discuss this in an open minded way, or acknowledge that some of NASA's data has gaping holes in it.

It seems that Mars is the only planet in our solar system with an atmosphere that changes color regularly, lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0agVZwux1Hs

Elon Musk, wants to get to Mars in the next 6 years, with 100 people, and build a city.

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And another rare view of the real Mars, with distant hills and clouds flowing over them, (much like Earths hills).

The top detail is Cur, robotic arm, and lower details are from the rover as well.

Funny that Musk is ignoring the moon and going straight for Mars, no doubt he is aware that NASA isn't being up front about all available martian data, and can see Hubble images at face value, and ignores stupid NASA employees, making up excuses for the sky color turning red all of the time.

Musk will get a satellite and rovers there soon enough, then he will cut out the crap, finally.

Another puddle within easy reach of Curiosity.

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This also shows that it isn't light colored sand, and also shows that the surrounding sand isn't dry further away and wet closer up.

Which, (as the reflective rock near one of the arrows, showing possible rain clouds) shows that the whole area is wet or damp. Or there has been recent rainfalls.

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This one puddle, possible giant distant structure, and a possible dirt road.

Usual stuff.

When Elon Musk gets to Mars we will finally get some real answers.

Found this, apparently NASA wanted two rovers, (1970's) nuclear powered on Mars in the same place, so they could increase public funding by taking pic, or each other.

https://www.wired.com/2012/07/mars-mult … sion-1977/

Didn't happen thought.

And this, l tried to analyze early Viking data, on temps on Mars, but at least what we have, confirms Curiosity, etc numbers on night temp,s.

https://www.geosci-instrum-method-data- … 1-2013.pdf

This is a PDF, and you have to scroll down, almost til the end for the charts, then converts K to C.

I know Spirit, etc had aerogel, (solar panels on top) and gold in the glass to protect the solar panels, so they didn't crack at minus 40, (silica cracks at minus 40) but it is still hard to believe that they could handle minus almost 200 a few times a week for 10 years each.

And this...

http://www.daviddarling.info/encycloped … _Mars.html

Showing that Vikings first experiments on the soil, gave the chances of organics in the soil as an almost slam dunk. But later ex, with the oven went against the early experiments with adding water to the soil, (eventhough it was virtually impossible to know if the oven actually had any soil in it, and the robotic arm, hid any visual confirmation of soil being ejected from the oven test on board.

Which means that all early tests showed organics in the soil almost matching Earth, (the incubation period was shorter) but later oven experiments, that couldn't be confirmed, and easily faked, didn't.

Then we have Hubble constantly showing green bands around Mars that one scientist has shown to change seasonally, (oxiding rocks don't change).

And the very limited number of blue sky images, and the Viking data showing that Mars had a pink sky at sunrise, and not surprisingly at sunset also, (one strike against NASA recent data).

And the green on rocks, and the obvious green on Pathfinder images, and the very likely chance of rain on Mars, (can't have very salty rain, pure water forms around dust particles).

And the methane experiment that wasn't produced by active volconasism, but by plant life, (Curiosity sniffed this also, but of course didn't go near the licken).

The list goes on and on.

The evidence clearly shows that NASA are Not being 100% truthful to the general public.

And as such, cannot be trusted, especially when they give us, dodgy answers.

Yes, l know, had this point before, but expose that and free energy gets exposed, (magnetic repulsion) and 100 trillion, in oil profits go with it. Not to mention militiasing antigravity.

NASA, (which is owned by the military) isn't going to show the truth, for more funding when it will crash the stock market, and make this world, go down the put a nuke on a UFO, and send it to New York.

NASA has no interest, lol, total BS.

Curiosity drove within a few metres of some water flow in Mars years ago, (shown in my video) but nothing.

All we got was some lame example of a trickle of water down a crater wall Years later.

No NASA has been suppressing this since Viking, 1977, since back then they were more worried about scaring the population than anything else, with Vikings readings of organics in the soil, and a blue sky and the green stuff on the rocks.

Hubble keeps showing blue skys, even with a thicker atmosphere than ours on Mars, and we keep getting the stupid red skys, and everything else on the surface.

Yeah, l know, NASA says it is hard to get the color right,....hard to keep BS plausible.

The Russians had no color issues on Venus, and NASA had no issues with the moon around Saturn, (hygans probe).

NASA will actually spill the beans, but not now, not with 100t in oil at stake, and millions of jobs, etc.

In the year 2033, when they send a few atranauts to Mars and they land on one of its moons, with the monolith, and oil is getting harder to unearth, then we will finally get the truth!

Top one is the side of Curiosity reflected back to us.

The last one is a rock.

And the middle, phew, thanks for posting that, pretty much sums up, that NASA keeps away from anything that dispells the myth that Mars has or always has been devoid of intelligent life.

By all rights this should be impossible.

Best guess that this is a rectangular sheet allowing some of the background landscape through, but it still reflects parts of Curiosity that cast a shadow or stand out.

I don't believe that it is a woman, but a sheet of glass like material.

I am not a biologist, but it is very unlikely to impossible that nature did this.

And very likely that Mars has had a civilization in the distant past.

And likely that they are still there.

Unfortunately we will probably have another 16 years of NASA lies, and people that will believe it all, until it all comes out.

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Garden Gnomes on Mars, nah.

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A dirt road, and green tinges on the rocks, sure.

The thing on the top might be another bridge, very hard to gauge distance, but it is unlikely to be natural.

And another image of the sun setting, l ran this through Photoshops color picker, and green to lime green with a hint of yellow was all l could pick up, (no blue).

So when NASA shows a blue sky and blue sunset, it is inaccurate or an outright lie, as most of their Mass Media data is!

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The one near Curiositys wheel l believe to be a reflection of the rover, up close, (one of its wheels are visible) but 1 or 2 appear legit.

Yes, pretty good, but it isn't a perfect rectangle since part of it is connected to the left part.

But l agree that most claims are pretty stupid, especially on Youtube. Unfortunately the video's that are the most pathetic, go to the top of the search results, and the legitimate ones are harder to find.

YT has made a deal with the US gov, to be able to strip the keywords off any video they choose, so the kw, will remain but be next to useless to go to the top of the heap.

That is why some YT account holders pushing the truth resort to using non related kw's so they can get to the top indirectly.

It is probably 10 or so metres away, (best estimate) so it is the size of a treasure chest!

Yes, Curiositys wheel tracks go right past this, but nada. But l have seen, (video, water flow, first post) Curiosity get within a few metres of water flowing down a hill, and instead of front page news, nothing, (this was years before the so called water on mars announcement).

NASA's current mission statement is to show what Mars really is, but do it in a Not Hold up in Court kinda Way. So the ones that don't want to believe in anything can continue to do so, and the ones that aren't numbed down by society, can continue to discover the truth.

But in the year 2033, when oil supplys are becoming less reliable to too costy to extract, then the big announcement will be shown.

But even if newspapers everywhere say, NASA Finds Martian Monolith on Mars Moon, with HD images, it probably won't convince some.

Some will just attack the newspaper for false information or NASA themselves, usually aggressively, l have seen this insanity elsewhere with recent scientific discoveries.

Being insane, and attacking won't make the fact disappear, but will make them look like idiots or lose what credibility they had left.

So l expect a small minority to go 100% insane or be in 100% denial when that announcement arrives. But l suspect members here will be saying "cool" or "about frickin time" and then cool, lol.

Ok, l will blow that up next time, but l didn't see anything interesting on that, apart from the usual green, and possible traces of recent water flows around it!

Hmmm, l thought that the one with the root growing out of the rock, may have been legit, but unfortunately going by the video, l don't believe so.

On closer inspection most of it is Curiosity and the surrounding background, (the blue sky, was the giveaway) being reflected back.

And the other, the rock that looks like a knife, is compelling, and could be legit.

I have certainly found things that look like ancient pots, and carvings, etc over the years.

Thanks for posting.