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You can choose to ignore the danger, just like the people had who worked in the World Trade Center that morning on September 11, 2001, a date which most liberals would like to pretend never happened

I know Parisians are very fashion-consious, but what does clothing have to do with it, Jews have had no history of burning buses and cars or rioting have they?

Excuse me, but I beg to differ, the Chirac Government has not been very capitalist oriented, it does not choose to call itself "socialist". Chirac's brand of conservatism has more to do with who he hates as opposed promoting market-oriented economic reforms.

A sensible foreign policy. If they mind their own business, we mind ours. Countries that threaten US citizens either directly or indirectly aren't minding their own business and therefore we will tend to preempt where. necessary.

It seems that the press is mostly of a single mind about who they want running this country, so they attempt to control the information that gets to the voter. the are overly negative about Republican Candidates, and overly positive about the Democrats and it shows. I don't like it one bit, its sort of like an attempted coup by the News Media, its like they want a Media-ocracy running this country so they get to pick the government instead of the voters.

the problem is they are Arabs,

When all is said and done, the plug-in electric vehicle is the right concept for now. Think of the reduction of city smog levels due to idling traffic three times a day, the continued ability to afford suburban village living without neighborhood gas pumps and the threat of fuel shortages, the on-going viability of existing infrastructures while we consider the future architecture of our cities without being rushed....

The Sudetenland Germans also lived their for centuries, that didn't make the Germans murder Jews any less when they invaded Czechoslovakia.

Also Putin has introduced blatant discriminatory practices on Ethnic Georgians living in Russia, he's block money transfers to Georgia and cut off gas supplies their and closed the border. Seems as if Georgians are the new "Jews" of Russia.
I think that if Putin is going to use ethinic Russians as an escuse to invade or topple their neighbors governments, then those governments should save Russia the trouble and expell the ethinic Russians who lived their for centuries.

Why should we be "quaking in our boots" at the mere thought of angering the Muslim Population? The American population has gotten angry on many occasions, but they way we express our anger has not been in launching terrorist attacks, or rioting. We do not riot or kill people over silly things like insults to our religion. That is the problem with the Muslim World. Look no further than Paris, what was all that rioting about, two French Muslims that got electrocuted last year while trying to evade police.

The exact same thing Kruschev has done, try to spread nuclear weapons to our enemies. In the case of Kruschev it was the Cuban Missile Crisis, it the case of Vladimir Putin it was Iran. They have done nothing but obstruct our efforts to curtail Iran's nuclear bomb program, and they have also sold Iran some air defenses that may cost US airmen their lives if ever they get called upon to take out Iran's nuclear bomb production facilities. Supplying our enemies is a hostile and unfriendly act.

Is this some kind of your threat against democratically elected leaders which offend your own peculiar sense of bringing democracy and welfare at peoples ?

If democratically elected Germany were to invade France, wouldn't you want to make them sorry they did so? Democracy makes the people responsible for their own government's behavior. If the German people decide that the French should be German, you would be perfectly within your rights to show the German people the error of their ways. Do you disagree with me in this?

It's under 5% of muslim minorities which make troubles trying to involve religion with politics, there is no vacuum, large majority of muslims want free religion practices under the actual laws protrection

If that 5% causes so much rioting, then that 5% is too much. Other populations don't have the bahaviour problems that many Muslim groups do. If they can't control their 5% then they should not be in France, they should instead stay in their own country and solve their own societal problems rather than bring them to yours. 5% is also enough to threaten free speech with mafia-like threats to newspapers and cartoon editors. You don't have to accept every body who wants asylum, just like you don't have to accept everyone who is trying to escape dealy and contageous diseases in their own country - as they might bring those same diseases to France. I consider terrorists and rioting as a sort of disease. if other countries have these problems, I certainly don't want to bring those same problems to my country.

Ethnic minorities have cause untold suffering throughout Europe for centuries, they have been the excuses for wars that never seem to end. I would have solved the Northern Ireland problem by relocating ethnic Irish people into Ireland proper, instead of letting the conflict fester. make sure the proper national groups reside within their own borders so they don't remain the cause of festering wars.

Poland was also allied with France and England prior to World War II, didn't count for much as far as they were concerned, they ended up being occupied by the Soviets. It was the Soviets that ruined the idea of Socialism to me, it was their tendency to impose their ideas on other countries, collectivise their farms and send people who didn't agree with them to Siberia, that makes the left wing ideas suspect to me. The Bolsheviks gave a historical lesson to the World to beware of liberal ideas, and how the ideals of equality and social justice can lead to war, mass murder and violence.

Passenger cars need something that will work in winter. That's why I suggest a hydrogen fuel cell. You need a metal fuel tank to prevent hydrogen from diffusing through, I don't have figures. I could describe a composite tank that works as well as a metal tank while lighter, but I want to manufacture it myself.

France could have been in the same boat you know. Remember the Vichy government that ruled part of France on Germany's behalf? It made no difference to the French Jews deported to Auchwitz, that it was French Police that were rounding them up and stuffing them on the train to be deported to the gas chambers and crematoriums of Auchwitz and other Death camps in Poland and Germany. The Polish government under the Warsaw pact was sort of like a Vichy government run by the Soviets, they appointed their favorite Poles to run Polaned for them, and then staged a bogus election without competiton to legitimize them. And you say that all Poles should be concerned about is whether the person ruling over them was born in Poland and whether the Soviets gave him a free hand to rule as he likes. That is what I call a fig leaf or more specifically a Quisling.

the United States could have done the same with France after we pushed out the Germans, but we didn't, that establishes the difference between us and the Warsaw pact.

Nevertheless, Vichy French forces put up a strong and bloody resistance to Allied forces in Oran and Morocco. But not in Algiers, where a coup d'état by the French resistance on November 8 succeeded in neutralizing the French XIX Army Corps of Algiers before the landing, and arrested the Vichyist commanders. Consequently the landings met no practical opposition

You mean the Germans weren't Evil when they deported French Jews from your contry to be exterminated? If you were a French Jew on the train to one of the camps, would you try very hard to understand your enemy and why he is doing what he was doing?

If Poland says nothing abot Georgia, Poland may be next on their list, they are not first on their list, but as Russia works its way down its list of former Soviet and Russian possessions, it gets closer to Poland. France is nice and safe and cozy on the Atlantic coast, so it is not as much concerned, Few poles really think seriously about French Soldiers putting their lives on the line to defend Poland, the events of World War II disabused them of that notion.

In Georgia as well in some former USSR dominated countries, there are russian minorities which are now mistreated, in Georgia as well as in baltic countries.

You mean like "Sudetenland Russians"? German minorities on other countries were excuses for Hitler to invade, and suddenly Putin has become so "concerned" for Russian minorities in neighboring countries just outside Russia's borders. Perhaps Geogia ought to allieviate thse concerns by kicking those minorities out of Georgia. If the minorities aren't around to be abused, then they can't be. Its not their fault mind you, its just that George can't afford to allow them to remain if Putin is going to use them as an excuse to invade or support insurents within Georgia to split off territory and annex it to Russia.Too bad the Russian minorities get caught in the middle, they don't necessarily like Putin, but that is geopolitics, it would be wise for the Georgian leader to expel them, if they don't like being Georgians.

You french can take an example from this and do something about the muslim minorities that are currently making a habit of burning Paris. If they don't want to really be French, they should say good bye to France and hello to the Middle East or North Africa.

But when the Polishes want to make of Europe a "christiandom", in France we don't like to mix politics with religious convictions, we oppose them.

The muslim minority in your country wants to mix politics with religion and traditionally they have always done so. They want Islam to fill the vacuum you have created.

When you say that Putin tries to undermine US influence, the opposite is true, but the point is that the best US influence underminer is at White House.
Since he's there, the US influence on the world has reached a historic law, under Clinton, we would be friendly arguing, now we have hostile arguments about which of our countries practiced slavery the last one or mistreats its minorities, you and me.
It would be quite the same with many, like the Spanishes which say that without Bush and Aznar's alignment on Bush's Iraq policy, Madrid wouln't have been terrorist attacked

That's what we call "Blame the victim" in the states. (...). We are being attacked, it is not our fault that our attackers may attack someone else they feel may be aligned to us if their primary target is us.

Right now, because of the US Army being Iraq mud trapped, nobody knows how to withdraw properly, USA has lost prestige, power of deterrence, be on Iran, or North Korea or Sudan and so on, is hatred in most of the muslim world, latin american leaders campaign on anti-americanism, make friend with Castro rather than Bush, these are the facts !

And we can make them sorry they did so!

It's not a matter of Reps or Dems, of anti-americanism, we still stand with the highest respect for President Eisenhower, but compared with Bush, on all the matters, Eisenhower was the day, Bush is the night

The "Bush" you talk about is in part fiction, it doesn't have much to do with the real person who occupies the White House. You should look at other places in the world, not just Bush as the cause of all its troubles.

Whatever has George Bush done to your country of France/ Has he ever done as much as Hitler has? Most of your objections seem to stem from him having different values from your own, that is no reason to hate him.