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#51 Re: Not So Free Chat » Combined cycle automobile? » 2005-01-24 21:43:57

It would be big, heavy, and expensive.

It would add about 150 lbs to the weight of the car. However, it would get better fuel mileage.

#52 Re: Not So Free Chat » Combined cycle automobile? » 2005-01-24 21:19:27

Why not use the wasted heat energy of the internal combustion engine to make steam so it can run a steam turbine that is coupled to the transmission of your car? You would get the explosive force of the fuel along with the heat to do the work of moving the car at the same time.

#53 Re: Not So Free Chat » JPL vs esa Mars Mission » 2005-01-24 19:53:13

What justification do you have for such a statement errorist? On some forums/newsgroups dropping in new posts with such contents would be considered trolling - either be prepared to back up statements with real evidence and well thought out theories or don't post them.

Well, do we have all the pictures yet? Why did they lose half of the pictures? Why the POOR quality?

#54 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Methane & Bermuda Triangle » 2005-01-21 12:56:03

Oh the sounds! Well there were no sounds that I remember. However, hurricane Andrew was another story. Very loud whisling sounds start of off low then as the wind gusted to over 200MPH it was houling just like in the movies. But to be there in the middle of that monster was a sight to behold and hear. They say 175 mph but that is when the last reading was taken at the Hurricane center in Coral Gables far north of the center when the wind guage flew off the top of the building.At the cutler ridge power plant It was much worse that that because we were in the north eye wall no wind guage though. At Turkey Point Nuclear Power plant they were in the South eye wall and the wind guage registered a wind gust of 225 mph and also at the Homestead airforce base which was obliterated. BTW the storm was elevated to a cat five ten years later but I say it was worse than that.

#55 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Methane & Bermuda Triangle » 2005-01-21 08:04:27

ERRORIST, would you care to describe what you saw (and heard possibly) in more detail?  Did they all 3 form at the same time, approximately how far apart were they, did they disappear at the same time?  Did any of them stand in the same spot for the most part, or did they move -- if so, how fast?  Thanks (I'm insatiably curious). 

About 15 years ago while at work a few co workers and I were on top of the 120" platform. The south side of this boiler faces Biscayne Bay. It was an overcast morning and a low lying trough was over the bay towards the south. It was moving SW to NE when one of the water spouts formed. It was the largest of the three. The other two formed at about the same time and were about the same size.All three of them were moving towards the NE but not very fast.
The neat thing about them was the power they have. They were sucking up water like there was giant sucking on a straw.
They lasted about 15 minutes and then they dissappeard as quick as they formed and then unleashed all the water back into the bay with a BIG splash.I can tell you the water was sucked up higher than a hundred feet. It was a sight to behold. I turned to my buddy and said to him imagine if you could capture the energy in that thing. He just laughed but I was serious. They were about 2 miles from us and we could not see if any fish were being sucked up but I  am sure there were some.

#56 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Methane & Bermuda Triangle » 2005-01-20 16:17:29

I used to live down there in the Cutler Ridge area and have seen many of them in Biscayne Bay.There are stories of them sucking up huge amounts of water and fish then dumping it all back into the ocean. Once I saw three of them right next to each other.

#57 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Titan is a moon of frozen water at the surface. » 2005-01-20 16:02:41

Hey, they said the ice rocks are rounded and eroded looking. Perhaps, the ice rocks have eroded the channels once the water was forced up from below the surface and is quickly frozen.

#58 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Wind mill generator on Titan? » 2005-01-20 15:37:21

This article implies surface winds from AP.

The clouds are most likely methane and dark areas on the surface are "a reservoir" of liquid methane, said project scientist Shushiel Atreya.


A boom mike extended from the 705-pound Huygens probe has captured a loud, rushing sound. Mission scientists did not immediately say what it might mean, but instruments on the probe have detected winds of about 15 mph.

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/ … 649121.htm

#59 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Wind mill generator on Titan? » 2005-01-20 15:24:10

The key here is that other instruments support the data.

#60 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Wind mill generator on Titan? » 2005-01-20 14:09:03

A quick google revealed this: However, I seem to remember reading it on another link a few days ago!!

"A boom mike extended from Huygens after its landing revealed a loud, rushing sound. Mission scientists did not immediately say what it might mean.

  Titan is the first moon other than the Earth's to be explored. Scientists think its atmosphere is similar to that of the early Earth, and that studying it could provide clues to how life began on our planet.

  Yet there also was a setback after Huygens' seven-year trip through space: One of the probe's two data streams failed to download, meaning it will be some time before data on wind speed in Titan's atmosphere can be pieced together.

  But the sounds suggested blowing, and other instruments detected surface winds of about 25 kilometers per hour (16 miles per hour)."

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/arti … ...id=3947

#62 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Wind mill generator on Titan? » 2005-01-20 13:01:12

No,I read an article where the winds were 15 MPH at the surface do to the sound of it passing the microphone.

#65 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Titan is a moon of frozen water at the surface. » 2005-01-20 07:16:17

Perhaps, it comes to the surface vent, freezes then blows apart into those ice chunks we are seeing. After it blows apart then the water rushes down hill and erodes those channels we are seeing. Then the water just seeps back into the ground before it freezes again,then another ice block forms on the vent to repeat the cycle again.

#67 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Titan is a moon of frozen water at the surface. » 2005-01-19 16:49:34

Nooo, if that were the case then we would see the geisers of water with spectrum analysis.

Perhaps, the energy is not suffecient to create large geysers but large enough to make it flow out of the ground thus creating the channels we see?? Sort of like geothermal spring!!

#68 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Titan is a moon of frozen water at the surface. » 2005-01-19 16:35:49

The heat can vent through the crust like on the moon Io that orbits Jupiter and a liquid ocean can exist under the frozen ice like on Europa.

#70 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Titan is a moon of frozen water at the surface. » 2005-01-19 15:55:35

Well the surface ice could acting like a blanket of insulation.

#71 Re: Not So Free Chat » Piss Poor Hygens Camrea Shots - I am tired of the BS! » 2005-01-19 15:40:38

Aren't we all spoiled in some way?
Hey when the probe went through the surface did they get any temperature readings of the mud?

#72 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Titan is a moon of frozen water at the surface. » 2005-01-19 15:21:24

I bet they find out that Titan is a moon of frozen water at the surface and liquid water below the surface. Hence the Mud. Tidal forces are keeping the interrior warm thus melting the ice. Decaying bacteria like in septic tanks emitting vast quantities of methane from below and venting through the ground into the frozen atmosphere. Any bets?

#73 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Wind mill generator on Titan? » 2005-01-19 15:14:00

I would think that the wind on a sail boat would also generate elctricity.

#74 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Wind mill generator on Titan? » 2005-01-17 11:06:16

Well if the wind is constant then you  can use that energy to keep it warm.The windmill can be designed to be mechanically turned to the wind at all times like the ones from power companies.

#75 Re: Not So Free Chat » Piss Poor Hygens Camrea Shots - I am tired of the BS! » 2005-01-16 22:17:56

Exactly, a big spoiled brat sitting here eating a big bowl of ice cream. big_smile  big_smile

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