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Coverage of the launch has begun now. 1h19m until launch.
Watch NASA TV here online: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
I'll shoot an email to cIclops for access to that.
I'll be there.
I'll be on #newmars and #space on irc.freenode.net, also. Come join us and say hi, I'd like to meet all of you that I haven't met.
Here's a more direct link for what JoshNH4H posted: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=newmars&uio=d4
Odds are they're genuine CAPTCHA farmers. What's annoying is that about 60% of them are already in the SFS database... there were about 35 the past three days. It's no where near as bad as before when the phpBB forum without ReCAPTCHA had 1500 spammers in a week.
Yes, they're all spammers. We are only using ReCAPTCHA as a spam deterrent currently.
Politics especially with the way the Spacerace is at the moment is a fundamental part. Just talking about international cooperation is politics and of course politics controls the purse strings. And No Bucks no Buck Rogers. It needs to be seriously moderated but we cannot get rid of it completely.
That's why we have Space Policy. Go to Not So Free Chat and look at the discussions that were taking place, imho, they were unacceptable. I was getting several PMs a week about misbehavior, it was really time consuming. I'm all for space related politics, I have no problem with it, but once you veer out of space policy and into general politics the whole thing falls into a mess. Go compare discussions on political forums and on the space politics blog and compare their relative civility.
reserving (will post much more stuff here soon, holidays are upon us so be patient, it's going to be awesome )
YouTube: Mars: What Do We Know?
As the launch of NASA's Mars Science Laboratory draws nearer, scientists provide a general overview of what's known about the Red Planet, and what we hope to learn with the Curiosity rover. MSL is now scheduled to liftoff from the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station on Nov. 26.
YouTube: New Mars Rover Mission Remains on Target (Now 11/26)
Scientists and engineers on NASA's Mars Science Laboratory team provide a comprehensive status update of NASA's latest robotic mission to the Red Planet. The launch of MSL's Curiosity rover has since moved to Nov. 26 from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida at 10:02am EST.
YouTube: Mars Science Laboratory Moves to Launch Complex
The Mars Science Laboratory (MSL) Curiosity rover was rolled out of its processing facility on Nov. 3 atop the payload transporter at NASA's Kennedy Space Center, Fla. Once at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station's Space Launch Complex 41, MSL was hoisted atop the Atlas V rocket for its upcoming mission to the Red Planet. Curiosity has ten science instruments with which to search for evidence whether Mars has had environments and chemical ingredients for microbial life. The rover will use a laser to look inside rocks and release gases for a spectrometer to analyze and return the resulting data to Earth. MSL is now targeted for liftoff on Nov. 26.
Entry Descent and Landing Timeline:
More detailed timeline here. ERT = Earliest Receive Time (time it takes for us to know when an event has happened).
NASA's Eyes on the Solar System featuring Curiosity Rover! This is a Java application that lets you watch, in 3D, the EDL sequence! Pretty cool! Just click on the browser and find Mars, then look for MSL. Double click on MSL and pow, you have the option to watch the EDL live, or if you're curious, speed up time (click the "preview mode") and watch what it will look like!
MSL Mission Engineering Overview || MSL Mission Science Overview
Watch feeds here:
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/media_flash.html
Spammers were busy: http://i.imgur.com/sRuSt.png
Took about 20 mins to ban and report them all to SFS.
About 10 of them weren't already in SFS, the rest were.
Yes we used the reporting system on phpBB. I loved getting Rxke's little notes.
The reporting system here sends an email to a list of people (in Admin options) whenever there's a report.
BTW, CheckDavid was a good sport about my deleting him. Whew.
I sent him an apology email and asked him to sign back up.
If I was wrong I duely apologize, and ask him to sign up again. There's a "CheckDavid" posting stuff around about making money on the net but on second glance it looks legit, just someone trying to get somewhere and not necessarily spamming. I feel bad now. This would be the second time in a decade I did that (did it once before and the guy was OK with it, a bit perplexed why his count was gone but yeah), but it's uncalled for doing it so soon again after the relaunch.
CheckDavid if you're real and reading this please sign back up, it was an honest mistake.
It can't hurt. The "report" feature should work.
This beats the 1300 spammers that the phpBB test forum had signed up in a week at least. And the link farmers are OCRing our books while they're at it...
BTW, CheckDavid did add a website in his profile, I guess after he posted just in case the software was looking for that. So no worries for missing it. Remember, the key is searching for the nick in double quotes so Google knows to look for it.
We'll see, Terraformer, I didn't forget that you moderated the base terraforming forum. Not sure if it'd give you editorial board status, though, if we did it. I know you're a huge fan of terraforming and you did good stuff on general terraforming in the past.
Rxke, ha, I'd "stealth edit" that, but I suppose I'll leave it.
CheckDavid was also a spammer, one of Rxke's favorites, acting real, but a google search of their name (with quotes) resulted in hundreds of links. Their website seemed innocuous at first but there were hidden spam links all over it.
Neither poster was in the SFS database, and they were real people, signed the ReCAPTCHA, etc.
Rxke, yeah, I got the database and as jburk said I plan to post it on Marspedia (possibly under a NewMars category for topics that were more NewMars specific, but most of it was general Mars stuff and I wouldn't be surprised if it was replicated over there already, I haven't got to the database yet).
I hope in the future we can have links to the wiki and whatnot under the logo, but yeah.
Fortunately, since the Wiki wasn't used as much as the forums were, despite it being out of date, it *should* have basically everything that was there before with a few minor losses.
I suggested to jburk that we use a mass emailer that is a plugin to the forums, but I believe he is going to simply scrape the emails from the database and use an emailer that the hosts uses, but it's definitely in the works, it is possible, and it will happen. A day or two tops.
Just so you guys know, I'm going to work on the reorganization Monday, I spent Saturday getting the thing back, and needed a break. You know how I am with that. But it'll be soon (so yes, Terraformer, it'll be back to similarly to how it was before, though we do not have nested forums and we likely will not have that as a full feature until it is part of this forum system instead of a mod; the mod is very intensive and can break easily, bad idea).
BTW, we chose FluxBB because it's very fast and very secure, we did a test install of phpBB and it was noticeably slower, so it's worth the switch. I know everyone was used to the old forum, but you'll get used to this one. Bare with me as we work on styles and I'll take any suggestions of course that people want as feature requests.
It's so great to see our old members still remember us. If anyone didn't pick it up, JoshNH4H is jumpboy, at his request I changed his nickname.
OK, I definitely got a good method down now.
Still working on how to adjust the reds.
Here we go! http://i25.tinypic.com/97jg4p.jpg
I'm told if you use LAB color to do it it will conserve details for lack of colors, but I haven't *quite* figured out how to do it. I'm getting close though. I'm sure NASA has a nice utility that does it magically.
New data has been uploaded, here's my first attempt, trying to colorize using the small datasets extrpolated to fit the bigger ones (haven't quite figured out luminance yet though): http://i31.tinypic.com/wce6f6.jpg
View at 1/4th size to get a good idea.
Vincent, care to explain your Horticolor method? While I don't think it resembles reality it does produce good results!
HOLY CRAP! :shock: Did Phoenix actually fly over Heimdall?! Man I never thought the engineers would allow it to get even that close to a hole in a ground like THAT.
Not at all, it was 20km closer to MRO at that point. It's just one of those weird perspective things. Imagine that the probe is significantly closer to MRO than the crater.
Probably easier to wrap your brain around it when you think about it in those terms.