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#601 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Averting Global Catastrophe » 2003-02-09 10:37:50

If you want a large software library, you'll listen to good old Bill Gates... and anyway, everyone knows that when you download Linux, you're downloading communism. wink

I wouldn't call it communism, actually i would call it capitalism at its finest: i am choosing the software I want, because i can!

But you can probably run a high percentage of windows software on Macs, you can even run a version of office on Mac!  But i get your point.  This is also capitalism, and brilliant, but illegal, business practice.  When Bill Gates is gone, I don't think MS will be anywhere near as strong.  Gates is just one of those people you can't match. 

The increasing cost of MS is turning a lot of people off, too.  I think if some of the other OS companies advertised more, they would boom.

#602 Re: Space Policy » Why Not Offer A "Bounty" For A Mars Mission - 10 Billion dollars for the first » 2003-02-09 10:10:25

Roark, thats why my proposal includes 5 claims, the last 4 smaller than the first...which means you can go claim that nice vent your found earlier.

#603 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » nanotech and carbon nanotubes - a big future » 2003-02-09 10:07:36

I was thinking, couldnt we use CNTs to run computers that are much smaller, faster, and cooler?  And the obvious implications for stronger, superconductors in industrial and commerical applications is incredible. 

I have a feeling that by the time i have my PhD, CNTs will be pretty widespread!

#604 Re: Civilization and Culture » Paperless Mars » 2003-02-09 10:03:56

why bother having a wireless lan?  Have a network hub and have them plug in to the central server, which can perform its own error checks, once a day to get the news and everything.  much cheaper, and data rate is faster.

#606 Re: Human missions » Mars: A business plan - lets get at it » 2003-02-09 10:01:05

yes, but the point is that you are making companies compete to provide the best applications,or costs.  The military does it all the time.

#607 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » nanotech and carbon nanotubes - a big future » 2003-02-08 20:41:06

Shaun, but would that alter the water?  Would you "run out" of electrons?  Or would new ones be attracted?

#608 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Space development and Earth's Environment - BAD BAD BAD! » 2003-02-08 19:28:58

Yeah, just look at me and Josh, well, I think we share the same views on space exploration, but everything else, whew.

#609 Re: Space Policy » Why Not Offer A "Bounty" For A Mars Mission - 10 Billion dollars for the first » 2003-02-08 18:26:24

What I said earlier, is that each company has the right to 100 acres radius around their initial landing site.  After that, they get less, say 25 acres radius, and a maximum cap of 5 claims.  They can then sell, say 25% of that land to cover costs.  The rest they would have to develop on their own.  No ownership rights could be passed from other organizations unless first reviewed by an independent organization.

These missions would have to be manned with a minimum of 10 people on board.

This is similar to the homestead act, except you are allowed 5 claims instead of one.  This amounts to an area of oh, 5000 acres or so, which isnt a huge amount for a large company!

#610 Re: Human missions » A Fleet Plan - Shuttles, OSPs, and beyond » 2003-02-08 18:20:42

My main point was keeping modern.  And another point was not revolutionary upgrades like shuttle to OSP, but gradual upgrades, like wing changes, or different boosters-so you keep a similar production line, with minimal retooling costs.  It would be relatively cheap to impart these new changes, because you are keeping the same basic design.

#611 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2003-02-08 18:17:24

Oh, I just remembered, the rush is because of our anti-biological weapons suits.  After february, it gets too hot to wear them!

#612 Re: Civilization and Culture » Time limit for Mars - Overpopulation prevents Mars mission... » 2003-02-08 18:12:47

Josh, the Saudi Arabian rulers aren't hard-line muslims, believe me, the people would kick us out in a minute if their leaders didnt keep us for our oil money.

And I was just making a point.  When I said "our" I didn't mean it was exclusively ours.  But it's pretty easy for Europeans to slam our military actions when they can't really commit to any military actions of their own.

#613 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Averting Global Catastrophe » 2003-02-08 18:05:55

Alexander, the only problem is that bill gates cant control me, because my freedom is protected by the constitution.  i can get linux or unix if i want, or even a Mac (blah!).

Josh, I understand the concept, except that some necessities (giffen goods like oil) don't need to drop in price!  OPEC can charge $5 a gallon for gas, and theyd get it, until we get fuel cells.  But they dont care, because theyll have enough money to build 20 new palaces.  These are the items where S&D dont apply.

I guess you could say that about getting better, but I think we will always get better with new technology!  Call me an optimist  cool

#614 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Averting Global Catastrophe » 2003-02-08 14:04:37

Wow, you have a twisted understanding of economics.  No sense trying to convince a preacher that his religion is false!

#615 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2003-02-08 12:59:21

Well, yes and no.  If it meant Saddam's life, I think they would break the charade, assuming they have these weapons!

#616 Re: Space Policy » Why Not Offer A "Bounty" For A Mars Mission - 10 Billion dollars for the first » 2003-02-08 12:32:39

Instead of set acreage, it should be a circle of land around the landing craft.  Both manned and unmanned private landing craft would be eligible.  A probe of a certain minimum weight would entitle its owner to ten square kilometers of Martian property surrounding the probe.  A manned landing craft would be entitled to something like 100 square kilometers of land.  These would be only initial values.  Rovers, manned or unmanned, would be allowed to plant land claim markers further away from the landing site.  The land between any three or more markers would also become property of the individual or corporation.

Whoa, that sounds a lot like what I said earlier.

#617 Re: Civilization and Culture » Time limit for Mars - Overpopulation prevents Mars mission... » 2003-02-08 12:00:33

Yes, but in my view, it doesnt have enough power, and there is too much sectionalism to forsee a reconciliation anytime soon.  Sectionalism has led to wars far too often for us to ignore its presence.  I think everybody can do something to alleviate this, the US included.  The Middle East's use of oil to support despotic regimes has left us hated for supporting them, and then hated again for protecting our oil.

If we are able to develop a hydrogen-based fuel economy, we can do a lot to balance foreign trade, and withdraw our support of despotic regimes in the Middle East.  But these differences arent just political.  We cant expect centuries old religious disputes to vanish.  Time and education are the only hope we have for this ignorant hatred to cease.  I truly hope it happens, but I don't think the UN as it is is powerful enough to be a world government. 

I envision a day where we do have a world government, and continents are the countries of today.  Ambassadors would relay the desires of Presidents, as they do today.  We would have a globalized economy, where there is an international military.

At this point, the UN is too reliant on American forces for any military operation.  This has to change.  I hope it does.

#618 Re: Intelligent Alien Life » Solution to Fermi's paradox? - an idea » 2003-02-08 11:36:50

There are six billion people on Earth. And how much freedom do you have, exactly? Do you have the right to choose not to work, and not be penalized for that choice? Do you have the right to job security for life? Do you have the right to housing, to healthcare, and to food and neccesseties? Just how free is /anyone/?

Come on!!!  Youre kidding, right?  If everybody stayed at home and did nothing, we wouldnt be much of a species, would we?  Look at any organism.  Do they have the right not to get their food?  Sure, but they'll die.  This position is really, imho, to put it lightly, ludicrous. 

Free is being able to choose your profession, to choose what to buy and think, to choose who your leaders are, to choose which healthcare you receive, to choose who you associate with.  Laziness is not freedom!

#620 Re: Human missions » Do you support a Nuclear Space Initiative? - Poll Results. » 2003-02-08 09:47:24

So, for an SSTO we recycle the fuel rods, and in normal procedure, we don't have to worry about the nuclear waste?

#621 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2003-02-08 09:45:24

"Well, since we have a satellite here, here, and here, we know that they have nuclear weapons on the launch pad!  Oh, now you know where are intelligence is coming from.  Crap."

Or, you don't say anything and the missles are launched.  The media often keeps sources anonymous, yet youlove citing the media!  We shouldny believe anybody who doesn't cite everything...i don't hear witnesses giving full citations during testimony in court.

#622 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Averting Global Catastrophe » 2003-02-08 09:42:01

Wow, you really need to look at the computer market more closely.  I have people asking me to build them computers every week!  The computer market is Booming! 

Bandwith isnt that expensive.  Neither is advertising.  You get venture capital, or a loan, to cover your costs.  Think, josh, think!

Can this system of providing a service that has a demand go on forever? No. It cannot. Because there are limits to how many services can possibly exist in a finite system.

Ooof.  Wow.  Demand does go on forever!  When your computer breaks down, when your shoes fall apart, when you want a new phone, there is always demand.  Otherwise, the US economy would have dried up a century ago. 

When demand goes down, you decrease supply or price to compensate.  It's simple economics.  There are many steps you can take to stimulate demand, not the least of which is improving your product!


Seriously, since you know some economic doctorates, could you ask them, first, if it's true that as resources become more abundant in a system, demand decreases, and second, that if demand decreases naturally as capitalism grows, how can demand be insured in the long term?

See above.

Sure, I'm not denying that consumers benefit. I'm denying that they have lots of wonderful magical happy choices. How many telecoms have bought each other out over the years?

I still have about 7 choices for cell phone service.  If people opposed such buyouts, the could start their own companies!

#623 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2003-02-08 05:41:34

Most of the evidence is probably classified.  Or don't you realize how much the military keeps secret?

#624 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Averting Global Catastrophe » 2003-02-08 05:38:03

The electronics industry is a perfect example!  I can pick Dell, IBM, Gateway, or I can build my own PC!  It all goes based on what I think is most convenient and beneficial to me.

Um, what's your point about demand  not always being there?  If there is no demand for your product, why should you still be selling it?  Innovate, advertise, and so on!

I see nothing wrong with the assesment that capitalism fosters dependence and isn't very democratic (?Democracy is the breeding ground of communism,? says Pinochet). It profits from it, after all.

this isnt based on economic fact.  the companies depend on consumers as much as vice versa, so they are forced to provide a supply that has a demand.  People profit in terms of choices, competitive prices, and so on!  Oh, and then there's higher wages and social mobility.

It is not a shown fallacy that people choose their own companies.  Where'd you hear that from?  Proudhon?  If people buy from a certain company, it will be more successful than a company who has no customer base!

Ebay is a "monopoly," because people find their services reasonably priced and convenient.  If someone came along charging nothing and offering free giveaways, traffic would slowly shift to them.  DishTV was the first real satellite provider-now there are 2, and many cable companies have been forced to innovate to contend.  Who benefits?  The consumers!

Like I said with guatemala, it depends on the application.  The US constitution is by no means an economic yardstick!  I would have to do more study, but I would assume that the regulation was either more or less direct than the US, either of which can be corrupt.

Don't get me started on corruption!  Socialism and Communism have the potential to bleed corruption.

#625 Re: Not So Free Chat » President Bush - about bush » 2003-02-07 22:34:02

Josh, I have to agree with the US's evidence.  There is a point where you have to stop covering your ears and start looking at the facts.  I was against the war before I heard the speeches by Bush and Powell, but I think they did a damn good job...the people who dont want to hear it simply wont because theyre too busy denying it.

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