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Another Michael Griffin http://fti.neep.wisc.edu/neep533/FALL20 … f]sighting - - its not looking like this guy has kept any of his preferences secret. :;):
Heck, design me a time machine and I would love to have taken this class. :;):
Another Michael Griffin http://fti.neep.wisc.edu/neep533/FALL20 … f]sighting - - its not looking like this guy has kept any of his preferences secret. :;):
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More world turns upside down stuff:
WASHINGTON – The income gap between the rich and the rest of the US population has become so wide, and is growing so fast, that it might eventually threaten the stability of democratic capitalism itself.
Is that a liberal's talking point? Sure.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0614/p01s … ?s=itm]But guess who is saying it
Nah, you guys have it backwards. Bush=Nazi is a Rovian move - - which Cindy copied by saying the word Nazi first.
Nicely trolled, by the way. Like the pick & roll in basketball. :;):
See, we ALL know Bush is a long way from being a Nazi therefore in comparison he looks like Mother Teresa. Downplaying expectations is a Rove trademark.
clark needs to go back to SoCal since they are about to become an ihttp://www.guardian.co.uk/g8/story/0,13365,1508676,00.html]independent nation. :;):
Stephen Tindale, executive director of Greenpeace, said: "Blair says climate change is the gravest threat we face but it seems his friend in the White House refuses even to admit that our world is warming. It is like claiming al-Qaida never existed.
"The prime minister should press on regardless, working with independent US states like California that recognise the problem exists and that a solution must be found."
Anyone here familiar with the Sukhomlinov effect? It's an old Russian observation that in modern (last few centuries) conflicts the losing side is invaribaly the side with the flashiest uniforms. Fine tailoring and shiny medals do not a winning army make. Just something to consider as our sailors take to sea in blue hip-hop camo and our Battlestar Galactica army velcros up for action.
*Never heard of it before, but that's interesting.
The Nazis sure liked spiffy stuff, ceremonies and pomp.
--Cindy
If the shoe fits. . .
The well funded nut-jobs and their leaders are Saudi, or Egyptian or Jordanian. The rest are cannon fodder.
Cobra, if Ikonboard had a ratings sytem you'd get a :up: from me.
We may disagree (somewhat) about when and where our military should be used but we don't disagree on how and why.
We aren't as evil as Hitler!
Boo-rah!
Corn dogs and lemonade for all!
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*So what's a few more keystrokes?
1. Who was hijacking all those Western domestic airplanes all throughout the 1970s and 1980s? Yes, the --1970s--; three decades ago. Murdering pilots, raping stewardesses, killing civilian passengers.
2. Who bombed the WTC?
3. Who bombed the U.S.S. Cole?
4. Who has expressed the desire to kill every U.S. citizen
(children and women included)? (Genocide).5. Who attacked on 9/11?
6. On and on.
Sort of makes the Islamoterrorists look like Nazis, IMO. Unless, of course, we're supposed to placate their blood lust and stupid religious bigotry by constantly turning the other cheek and allowing them to butcher us into oblivion (which is what -they've- openly admitted they'd like to do and would do, given the opportunity).
We have and continue to treat them a heckuva lot better than they'd ever even remotely consider treating us.
--Cindy
Answer? Saudi nut-jobs.
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But since Bush and Prince Bandar are such good buddies lets give the American people Saddam's head as a substitute prize.
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Can Americans become Roman? Or are we too fearful?
It will take some shifting of the mindset and a bit of endured hardship, but yes.
However realistically speaking, it won't happen with things as they are. It would be like trying to turn a sloth into a tiger.
Saw this comment, elsewhere:
The lesson of Vietnam is that America doesn't have the stomach to be an imperial power, and shouldn't try.
Whatever theory may say about the Roman way, we US-ians aren't up to it. Therefore to try and fail is worse than not trying.
For crew I agree with RobS - - among other things the crew needs to pass through the van Allen belts quickly.
For cargo, a 90 day slow road spiral seems to be more efficient, to a significant degree.
How 'bout 'dem Pistons!
Speaking of Boo-rah!
We aren't as evil as Hitler!
Boo-rah!
Corn dogs and lemonade for all!
!
The Romans had it right. Age quod agis. If you're going to rebuild Iraq, rebuild Iraq.
Which will require "getting Roman" in other capacities as well.
The old Cobra plan.
Can Americans become Roman? Or are we too fearful?
More on clark's comments later, after some digestion.
Anyway, did you see the fins on the painting of the SRB?
:;):
http://www.boom.net/~jake/atk_docs/ATK_ … A.pdf]Data dump
136 page pdf on da' stick - - I haven't read it yet either. :;):
Apologies if someone else linked it first.
This I believe has potential and would be the direction I'd lean toward. Gains by Iran would have to be looked at as temporary, they are a point in the overall strategy. No sense being overly bound by a line some Brit drew on a map in the last century. Use the cultural rifts to our advantage and give them what they want at the same time.
Partition? With an acceptance of short term Iranian gains?
Knowing that deep down inside the Persians do not really want to be Islamic nut-jobs? bin Laden hates the Shia by the way, almost as much as he hates America.
Dude, you got yourself a deal.
See how easy this is?
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And the price of Bush's adventure may be a nuclear Iran. ???
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And another DailyKos gem comment:
Chickenshit wingers (4.00 / 37)
This is what always kills me about wingers. We're supposed to be the wimps, right? The cowardly, entitled idiot idealists?
I'm sitting here in New York, a city full of unrepentant libs and lefties who still crane their necks and say a silent prayer every time a plane passes low over downtown (well, yeah, okay, mostly we're atheists, but you get the idea). Four years on, everybody knows that New York, New York is still a wonderful target. But do they sit around pissing themselves for fear of the swarthy shadows in their heads? F#ck no.
So here's the Republican tough guy, a Midwestern Real 'Murcan and a regular Malboro Man when he's talking trash, but the topic turns to terrorism and he starts thinking maybe Osama's been spiking his bratwurst with anthrax or something. Before you know it, he's soiled himself and crawled under the sofa, wailing for his pappy to come save him from the terror bogeyman. "Please, Mr. AM radio host, tell daddy Bush to kick some Hajji ass and don't let 'em put the bad stuff in my bratwurst! Waah!"
Can you just see Osama's skinny ass sitting in a cave, hooked up to his dialysis machine, going, "Yes, World Trade Center attack was smashing success. Next, we strike at the heart -- Waukegan! Mwahhahaha! We will cut off their supply of mass-market cheese, cheap beer and kringle, and they will crumble like overdone falafel!"
Jesus. Someone needs to take these whiny little crybabies by their fat, pink ears and tell them to f#cking grow up.
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low casaulties?
What are the wounded in action/maimed numbers like?
Hush!
As an aside, I read last night that the bad guys have started making shaped charge IEDs.
Oh, and my cousin from the suburbs of Detroit was wounded in Bahgdad last week. 2 weeks in the hospital and then back on patrol.
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This http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/16 … ]delicious rant also captures how I feel:
Allegedly from a call in show (but it feels authentic to me):
Caller:"Thanks for talking about this. This is so important. We should be able to do whatever it takes to make ourselves safe. No limits. When I drop my 3-year-old off at day care in the morning, I need to know that he will be safe when I come to pick him up at night [Callers voice breaks]. I just can't imagine if anything were to happen to him."
Host: "Wow, that a powerful image. Thanks for reminding us what's at stake here."
As the writer responds:
If the War on Terror has clubbed our suburban senses to the point of collective psychosis, where we actually have people in the suburbs who believe that detaining random Muslims in Cuba without charges protects a three year old in a suburban Milwaukee day care, then the terrorists have won.
Almost FOUR years since 9/11.
Almost
Four
YearsAnd we still have raving testosterone-charged lunatics on the radio in nearly every medium sized town in the Midwest, getting huge ratings by lumping terrorists, random Muslims, religious radicals with dark skin, Iraqi civilians, al Qaeda, and Afghan teenagers who were in the wrong place at the wrong time, into a single bucket labeled, "Those who would kill me without hesitation, and therefore should be detained so I can stop checking the lock on my suburban door three times in 15 minutes before going to bed," then the terrorists have most certainly won.
If we can defend "temporarily" putting aside four amendments contained in the Bill of Rights, in the name of a false sense of "Security", then the terrorists have won.
<snark> Besides, Daddy probably put the car seat in wrong and shouldn't be driving the kid anywhere, anyway. :;): </snark>
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Fair enough?
Fair enough.
If only Congress worked this well.
Now as is so often the case, we're brought to what to do in the here and now with the scenario past events have given us.
I'm open to the idea of more troops, depending on where we're going to get them, what we're going to do with them, and why.
What to do? Hell if I know. Juan Cole has written that we are just screwed, in Iraq.
We CANNOT just leave. The Baath remnants have the weapons and its either (a) Baath regain power with a new Saddam or (b) the Shia get Iranian help and win. We lose that either way.
We don't have an extra 300,000 troops and we have NO international legitimacy to seek more troops from anywhere else.
Partition? Lots of blood but a chance for stability in a few years and an ascendant Iran. Some Shia are already talking about a new state to be called Sumer.
A ten or fifteen year reconstruction of Iraq? Like space exploration that needs to be bi-partisan from the beginning with genuine power sharing (and rewards sharing) between the parties, otherwise its a political football. If we want as much blood and commitment from Harry Reid as from George Bush, then Reid needs close to 50% of the say-so and control.
A third party "War on Terror" ticket to elect someone like Colin Powell for 2008 through 2016 with his commitment to treat BOTH the Democrats and Republicans with absolute equality might work. (For example, each party gives the President a list of judicial nominees and he selects from each list, alternating equally.)
Powell probably is too politically damaged already so another general who is fed up and disgusted with the Bush strategy on terror but who otherwise leans GOP might work.
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Edit - - I intended to say that the 2008 and 2012 elections proceed normally and if the die-hard Dems or GOP-ers win, so be it.
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My agreement that removing Saddam was itself a worthwhile and noble goal and my belief that this could have been accomplished successfully is
WHY I AM SO FREAKIN' ANNOYED!
Fair enough?
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A sad note. If my friend's mother in law had been given antibiotics rather than steroids, she would probably still be alive.
This happened a few years ago, but the analogies to Iraq are really hitting me today.
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Sorry for ruining the conversation. I'm just in a mood today.
Of course to discuss this is treason since as no should dare criticize our Precious Leader. After all, he is following the guidance of his Heavenly Father and therefore cannot err.
*Everyone here, IIRC, has criticized Pres. Bush at various times and on various points. And no one here quite fits your description, IMO.
The media can do what they want. He was re-elected, won the majority of votes by a respectable margin.
Everything's a bit odd these days, all around. This is primarily why I can't understand attempts at pigeon-holing matters...particularly the major matters.
--Cindy
Yup and any public leader who questions Bush is vigorously assaulted by the White House media hit team.
If I am right, Bush is throwing gasoline on Islamo-fascism and half of America is cheering him on.
Good on him! Seriously.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … html]Frist admits he was wrong about Schiavo
Best move he's made in this whole tragic affair.
By the way, I saw a study that says that doctors and hospitals that apologize for medical errors are subject to substantially LOWER malpractice verdict. (And not the canned I'm sorry I got caught variety.)
The autopsy by a medical examiner in Florida, released Wednesday, showed irreversible brain damage, consistent with a persistent vegetative state.
"The diagnosis they made is exactly right. It's the pathology, I'll respect that. I think it's time to move on," Frist said on CBS' "The Early Show."
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PS - - Ignore my last post.
There isn't anything wrong except a biased media that hates George Bush. Yup that's the WHOLE story.
:;):