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One more try with this link ? or this one ?
It's this one ?
a couple more on this link or
this one.

I go to sleep now ...

Wow hold it there please. Even in the year 2358 there will still be problems on earth (if it's still there). You don't mean that we shouldn't go before all those problems are solved, do you ?

Probably when Finland joins the ESA projects, the rover will get a place on one of the next rides to Mars ?

If I click the link a nice white page shows up or am I missing the clue/glue

Some other links where nanotubes are used ...
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superthreads

I also found this link.

what am I doing ? copy pasting google in here ?
???

Indeed to me it seemed also overoptimistic about the 30M$ each but I think he had to say it that way just to shorten his 'time to speak' and indeed sometimes if you are limited in time to defend your case you have to (over)simplify things just to get the 'other(s)' interested and asking more questions (and that did happen ...) about that 'simple' approach.
And as long if you have the right answers and know the whole thing indepth (which Zubrin has) they can fire as many questions as they want until their kwowledge-of-the-subject is reached.
I thought he got his message through. Although the *weird* smileys on the other side of the table troubled me at one point but then Zubrins book got onto stage and that changed from *weird* smile into *interesting/curious* sort of smile.

I vote yes.

You mean they will invest their own money in a Mars-base ?? ??? I don't think so. Who will pay them to construct it ?
Or am I misunderstanding your statement ?

I'm betting that China will push their dates closer to today. In this article they say 2005 -> first manned spaceflight. Well (I hope) they stick with 2 or 3 flights and go for the moon (+ base) sooner than (or then) expected. Or am I too optimistic ?  ???

Outloud thinking again ...
A lot of the threads about sending people to (not on earth) places reflect directly on NASA. We shouldn't forget that there is ESA spending money and will be increased (the link is in dutch sorry for that but I couldn't find any other link in English), there is Russia -- ok I know all about the lack of money etc. but still ... -- and there is China I think will be play along. Japan maybe ? The X-prize will have an impact (link)
I guess what I want is that I like to see science evolve in a way that I can use it (payable sub-orbital flight) or be part of it or at least watch it on tv/net.

Can you imagine yourself as the first human to step on the surface of our planetneighbour and looking at this ...
Mars
That has to get you goosebumps (is that correct English ?)

found it ...

Well I think a lot of people think that way. What way ? Well, putting tons of billions into a venture like Mars is too much for now. Let the *science* evolve for a while (30 years or so) up to a point where that same venture to Mars is 10 percent of the original price that was calculated/estimated 30 years ago.
And that is too bad. For one, that I will have to wait another lifetime (?) and second that pioneers are the ones who can get things started.
In another thread some 'guest' basically spit on Adrean I think it was, for the fact that Adrean participated on MDRS and wrote in his log all about his frustrations etc.
Well isn't it possible that when you don't start an 'adventure' tike MDRS now but instead launch it directly to Mars so to speak, all the frustrations come out then. (I'm just thinking outloud)
The same for nano. Start it now, don't wait.
Same for Mars, now is the time
Back to the pioneer-time Ahooo !!

Dit anibodie sea miy englich ?

Vodka and double vision, maybe something for nasa/esa ?