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Hi louis,

I do not think the object looks like a spaceship or a pyramid.

Here is another view in colour and one monochrome looking from the north.

The next image is the same view in monochrome.

What are the other objects along the top of the ridge?

Zydar

Your post tells me just how much you really know about what is on the surface of the planet. A little visual research on your part would not go amiss.

Zydar

I am sorry I seem to have bored some people with the findings of my visual research, but researching the images is what I am interested in. In posting some images on the forum I was hoping in doing so may have stirred and encouraged some scientific debate. It would appear to me that no one believes what they see until it is handed to them on a plate!

I believe the entry and landing sequence of the Phoenix mission will go perfectly. The crucial phase of the mission will be the last twenty feet. If a descent camera is going to be used, it will be interesting to see the images sent back as well as the images of the surface terrain.

Zydar

To zhar2

If you cannot see a large bright white structure in the last image posted without any optical magnification, then all I can say is that you have to be in a state of denial.

The object is definitely a large building of some description and not a frost patch. In fact, I can find no evidence of frost intrusion on the full image.

Whether or not there is a civilization resident at the landing site location may possibly be determined when Phoenix touches down in May. I am sure that in the future it will be positively determined, one way or the other, if there are any intelligent beings currently living on the planet.

Zydar

Hi noosfractal,

The effect you show will not take place using an optical magnifier.

All a viewer has to do is look through a magnifier at the images displayed on this thread. What is on the terrain will be seen without any pixelization or visual distortion taking place.

The magnifier will optically enlarged the image thereby maintaining the sharpness and detail and the image will appear closer to the viewer.

Has any member looked at the images with a 4"(100mm) dia. 3x or greater magnifier? I view the images on shown on this thread on a 13.3" notebook LCD screen and a magnifier as described above. I do not use a CRT monitor.

If you have viewed the images with a magnifier, what did you spot on the surface terrain?

Zydar

To zhar2,

Yes zhar, I am for real, as you put it.

Zydar

As there are some members who appear skeptical of exactly what is on the surface at the proposed landing site for the Phoenix mission, I have posted another image.

This image is a crop from the left hand side of the main image - PSP_006561_2485_RED.NOMAP

Image credit:  NASA/JPL/University of Arizona

I believe the quality of this image is remarkable. I have processed the image slightly to bring out and show the surface features which cannot be seen in the raw image.

As with the other two images a powerful magnifying glass (3x+) will be required to view the detail.

Zydar

There is something members of this forum should realise. Two missions have been sent to Mars, namely Polar Lander and Beagle 2. Both have failed in the final stages of touchdown and, both cost millions of dollars.

I trust the Phoenix mission controllers have done their homework by looking into the images of the proposed landing site to make sure that no obstructions are on the surface which could hamper a safe landing.

Looking into the very fine detail in these images it would appear that there are many surface obstructions and the same type of obstructions can be seen all over the full image.

The two images above show exactly what is on the surface, but you will need a strong magnifying glass to view.

I do not believe anyone could obtain a better result than what you see here. If you look carefully into the images you will see that there are many shapes that appear to be structures which are surrounded by vegetation.

Zydar

To RedStreak,

There is nothing incorrect about the grammar. My original post can still be found listed under a different heading.

To cIclops,

The image, PSP_007207_2485 shown above, is located at 68.2 N / 232.2 E whereas, the image PSP_006561_2485 I find interesting is located at 68.2 N / 231.4 E, a difference in longitude of 0.8 degrees which could place the two locations miles apart although both are centred at the same latitude.

The image I use for research of this area is the full image of PSP_006561_2485 which is over 6 Megs in size. This image is full of interesting objects which are definitely not small boulders.

Zydar

The comments of the last three posts are all correct, believe it or not!

I have checked out the image PSP_006561_2485, and when processed slightly it makes for very interesting viewing. There is a city in the image and there are lines and lines of trees and bushes.

I have found this type of phenomenon all over the temperate and sub-polar regions on the planet. Rows upon rows of structures with lines of trees in between. This could be one of their main methods in being able to produce a level of oxygen.

There is also a distribution system of large pipes feeding the structures. I assume the pipes may carry fresh air with an enhanced level of oxygen.

As for the description saying that it's covered with deep frost. This is just not true. There are many structures in the image, some small and some large. The type of buidings the martians live in are very different to the structures and dwellings on this planet.

Please do not think what I have found is madness as I can back my findings up with images. There will be a need of a 2.5 or 3x magnifying glass to see exactly what is contained in this image. Examining an image optically gives far better results than a digital enlargment of an image.

Will endeavour to post a sample image later, but you will require a magnifier to view.

Zydar

To jumboy11j,

An honest answer to your question is that I don't think members of this forum are particularly interested in what I have discovered otherwise there would have been more discussion and interest shown in the post.

However, it can be guaranteed that if I was a high-flying Astrophysicist, Astronomer or well-known scientific author posting here and had made the same claim, there is no doubt that the discovery and subsequent claim would have received a great deal more attention. But this is not the point in question!

What I feel is important is the high degree of in-depth visual research achieved and the many hours  I have spent examining a vast array of photographic and documentary eveidence. The image processing technique I use has definitely identified that there is a a multitude of rectilinear structures on the surface. This is evidence in itself and validates that the structures could only have been erected by an intelligent species that currently exists on the planet. I suspect the species is human-like in appearance and this claim will probably be validated in the due course of time. When this happens you will know whether or not I was correct in my current assertion.

Remember, I have only made claim to finding evidence that suggests an intelligent species inhabits the planet. I have never seen a Martian and, I suspect, neither has anyone else up to the present time!

There are many people posting on forums and the Internet who have laid claim to discovering this, that and the other, but nothing that relates to what is currently happening on the planet. Millions of structures means miliions of inhabitants. This evidence alone shows that the inhabitants must have a reasonable level of oxygen in the atmosphere and the most valuable commodity of all - water!

What is your claim or discovery, if you have one?

And BTW, the image you posted here is not the same image as the one referred to at the top of this thread. You also failed to include the credit to the image you imported - namely NASA/JPL/MSSS.

Well, well jumpboy11, it would appear that you are not prepared to do some research yourself by downloading the Psp program and analyzing the quality gif image. I believe that there is a free download available of PSP version 6 on the Internet.

Only after processing the image, following the instructions above, will you be able to see that there is more to this image strip than meets the eye.

Maybe there are other members who would like to have a look at this image.

The procedure outlined above in my last post can be used as a basis for analyzing other image strips to find out what is hidden on the surface. I can assure you that there is much to see.