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Just a little detail, not sure you would want to live on a undulating surface and getting seasick.

This is an ocean platform prison. Now I don't know why they put windmills on the landing strip, it might get in the way of aircraft trying to land.

The easiest land to make is over the Ocean. There is a lot of empty ocean in the Southern Hemisphere.

Which is why we need to stop them from having atomic bombs, they don't care about their own lives, but they are a threat to us, and if they play with atomic bombs they will release radioactivity, I'd rather not give them these toys, nor give them $100 million per hostage they released as Obama did, so they can buy more nuclear materials and technology! Obama's criterion seems to have been to help the Iranians develop nuclear weapons so as to deter the next Administration from invading Iran conventionally. The thing is, if Iran has nukes, we might not have any choice! If they don't care about themselves, we certainly can't deter them with our nukes, we can only kill them! Their fanaticism dies with them if we kill them fast enough before they can spread their infection, and if they do that, we have to kill more! We have to stop them before they have enough nukes to destroy us, if their mission is to destroy us with no regards to their own survival, then the only way they can do that is if they build up their nuclear arsenal to a point where they can target every one of our cities, and they won't attack us until they reach that point. If they have one or two nukes, they will wait till they have more, when they have a hundred, they will wait till they have several thousand, and when they have several thousand and they think they've reached a point where they can overwhelm our defenses and destroy all our major cities, then they will launch their attack, "knowing" in their mind that they'll go to Heaven when we retaliate! Muslims don't act like normal people, they have this all too common behavior of using suicide attacks to achieve their objectives. I don't want them having nukes. I think we should stop them no matter what I takes! We can trust them to behave the way normal humans behave when regarding their own survival! So we should assume they will not be deterred and act accordingly!

It doesn't have to be nuclear power though. Why do you suppose Iran is so interested in generating power by splitting atoms? Why not go with Solar or burning oil or natural gas? You haven't answered that question. Nuclear power isn't the most cost effective way to generate electricity, especially when you take all the safety considerations. Now how come the people who protested Three Mile Island, seem okay with Iran having nuclear reactors of their own, when in fact on several occasions they have stated that they deliberately wanted to harm people? They like to give explosives to Hamas so they can blow up Israelis, now you want to give them the means to manufacture nuclear bombs?

It is much easier simply not to allow them to have nuclear reactors in the first place! Iran has on numerous occasions threatened the American people with Genocide, that is what they mean when they say "Death to America!" It is not a salutation!

Do you want your neighbor to have a pet Grizzly Bear? Do you want to let him walk his grizzly in front of your house, would you want that grizzly near your children. If your neighbor assures you that its a tame grizzly would you feel better about it? That is how I feel about Iranians and nuclear power, they are no honest, they are not peaceful, they seek to destabilize their neighbors, they seek to overthrow the government of Israel, and they have not promised to cease and desist this behavior, and you still want them to have nuclear reactors! That's crazy! Iran has promised "Death to America!" Iran wants nuclear reactors! I can't assume their intensions are peaceful given these two facts, and it is fortunate that Barack Obama is no longer President! Donald Trump may have to go to war with Iran to stop them from getting nuclear weapons, since they have promised to kill us!

In Jesus' day there were no Muslims, Islam is a more recent religion than Christianity, so Jesus never encountered any Muslims, because they didn't exist, he did however warn about "false prophets".

Lind of like the burning of the Reichstag was inflammatory, it served Hitler's purpose, and he claimed it was done by Jews. What you have to remember is that there is good and evil in this world, both sides are not equal, and I consider support of terrorism to be evil.

Has Israel ever used a nuke on anybody? Have they ever promised to exterminate anybody? Iran has done the second, how can you be sure it won't use nukes to accomplish its stated goals of wiping Israel off the map, and delivering Death to America? I'd rather be safe than sorry, if we have to invade Iran to stop them from having nukes then so be it! Sending soldiers into harms way is definitely preferable to letting the Iranians nuke our cities, whether by missile or by terrorist!

Why does it have to be an Arab country? Russia has nukes, isn't that enough? Israel isn't threatening any Arab countries, so they have no reason to need nukes, Iran is threatening a lot of countries! Israel has behaved itself, Iran hasn't! Your argument is an argument for everyone to have nukes, and that is just stupid! Would you really feel safer in a World where everyone has nukes? Thus far the nations that have nukes have not used them in a War excepting World War II, but if you increase the nations that have them, you increase the chances of having a nuclear war. Israel has nukes, but has not used them, do you really think that ISIS, the Taliban, or Al Qaeda would use those nukes if they had them? Anybody who think he has God on his side and is willing to sacrifice his life is more likely to use nuclear weapons than someone who is more rational.

Would you rather have that radioactive hole in the ground, or would you rather stop them from getting nuclear weapons in the first place? I would rather we go to war to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons than have a nuclear war with Iran, even if it was one that we could win! Do you really want to spread the radiation around by giving nukes to irresponsible Muslims?

May I as a "Stupid Question?" Why does Iran need nuclear power? They got oil fields, and they got plenty of natural gas to burn, seems to me that since Iran is a net oil exporter, and with all that oil drilling it has plenty of natural gas to burn, it doesn't need nuclear power! Natural gas is much safer to burn than splitting Uranium atoms. But is seems to me, Iran isn't interested in generating electricity, it is interesting in things that go boom! Plutonium to be specific. A by product of Uranium fission is Plutonium, and the Iranian government is very interested in finding new ways to kill people, preferably a lot of people! Just as you would not give a pyromaniac a match and a jug of gasoline, you don't give nuclear power to the Iranians, they have been bad boys, they supported terrorism, and nation that supports terrorism has no business splitting atoms for any reason, because we can't trust them, or have you forgotten the hostage incident that started their terrible regime?

You remember the Iranian Revolution don't you? One of the first acts of this terrible regime was to take our embassy personnel hostage! People who engage in terrorism and who threatened the lives of Americans should not be given nuclear reactors to play with! In fact they should not even be allowed to operate airplanes!

I guess the point is, anything sitting on the surface of the Moon is actually in space. Something does not have to be in orbit to be in space. the same Sun beats down on whatever is sitting on the Moon as anything that is orbiting the Earth or is orbiting the Sun at Earth's distance from it. he big problem with orbital space, as Bob Zubrin pointed out in his book Entering Space, is that you start out with nothing. The first step to any construction project in orbit is you begin by lifting materials to the construction site. The Moon already has materials from which things could be built. the only thing that needs to be imported to the Moon to make water is hydrogen. To make a liter of water out of lunar oxygen, you need 200 grams of hydrogen. 1 kilogram of hydrogen makes 5 liters of water. Luclily, there is a lot of hydrogen elsewhere in the Solar System, the nearest source of extra solar hydrogen besides the Moon is Mars., one can also go to the asteroid belt to get some, and there are short period comets. There are some asteroids that are in elliptical orbits that originally were in the outer asteroid belt and got flung sunward by Jupiter. And of course there is Solar Wind. the Moon is mostly out of the Earth's magnetic field, so those Solar proton hit lunar soil. They can be combined with lunar oxygen to make water!

Why does Hollywood like Economic Recession? Why does it like the decline of America? Why does it like the Iranians getting nuclear weapons?

We need to isolate the barbarians of this World, Middle East terrorism should be a middle east problem, not our problem. I tell you, I'm sick and tired of Middle East problems coming to our country in the form of terrorism! I don't like the extra security measures we need to take to over come these special problems these middle eastern people bring with them when they come to our country. If the problem is that the people of the Middle East are too violent, and like war too much, then by coming here, they don't escape those problems, since the problem is their violent behavior. Where ever they go their violence follows, maybe they ought to work on bringing up children who are not so violent, maybe teach them right from wrong for instance.

Adding more water to Venus would make the upper atmosphere more habitable for us as the availability of water is a limitation to our ability to inhabit the upper atmosphere. Venus in the past must have had more water in its atmosphere than it does today. One small change would be to have as much water in Venus's atmosphere as there is now in Earth's atmosphere, most of Earth's water is in its oceans, only a small portion of its water is in its atmosphere, as for Venus 100% of its water is in its atmosphere, that water never reaches the ground. The question is, how much water would we need to add to Venus to make its atmosphere as wet as Earth's? Water would still rain, evaporate and recondense as water droplets in clouds. We wouldn't be adding sulfur dioxide, so we would still get sulfuric acid only it would be diluted by more water and thus be less acidic. I think Venusian life can survive more water. I think water clouds would reflect more light into space, thus the surface of Venus would get darker, absorb less light and reradiate less heat that would get trapped in the atmosphere. Thickening the cloud layer with water would do this.

Comets must have hit Venus before just like the did Earth. Seems that much of the moisture in Venus's clouds might have come from those. Just seems that Venus is kind of dry, it is a bit of a polluted planet too much sulfur dioxide in the atmosphere, I believe tha contributes the acid rain problem that Venus currently has, and global warming has gotten way out of hand!

Each human raised on the Moon is one human not raised on the Earth, and in that sense it is useful. My diagram shows how you ca have a habitat on the Moon with 1 full Earth gravity, that way you can raise children on the Moon under a full Earth gravity, and in their spare time, they can jump around under lunar gravity if they like. A tower in the center has an elevator shaft and a mast for holding up a giant mirror angled at 45 degrees to reflect downward polar sunlight at the Moon's north or south pole. The mast rotates to track the Sun. Shutters on the dome roof open and close to give night and day. Towards the edge of the parabola, the sunlight comes in at a low angle. Beyond the spinning parabola at the edge of the crater is some lunar gravity parkland. crops can be grown under lunar gravity, we're not concerned about that. The regolith surrounding the centrifuge provides protection from radiation from the Sun and 75% protection from cosmic rays. water sandwiched between the 2 dome membrane can provide the remainder of protection against the cosmic rays, providing an Earthlike environment on the Moon in which we can raise our children, and if they want to visit the Earth, there is no reason why they cannot.

Overall the dimensions of this habitat is about the size of a football stadium, so structures of this size are not unprecedented on Earth. We would never build a mast an mirror set up like this on Earth, but the Moon has only one sixth gravity and there is no wind, so why not?