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Trump may fund the Spacex Mars Colonization plan
nextbigfuture.com
Elon Musk, the founder of SpaceX and Tesla, has made trips to Trump Tower. He met with Trump and the Washington Post has ben reliably told, discussed Mars and public-private partnerships. Elon Musk and SpaceX have the bold dream of colonizing Mars, and think they can launch the first human mission to the surface of the Red Planet as soon as 2024 — when Trump, if reelected, would still be in the White House. (We understand that Musk also talked with Trump about other issues, including the need for a smart grid — the kind of infrastructure that would give a boost to the solar energy business, in which Musk is a leader via his investments in the company Solar City.) Elon's Vision of the Mars Colony ...
http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/02/tr … ation.html
Well Cargo ships seem to operate profitably. I think small boats are expensive to their contents, but with large vessels economies of scale are employed to make unit cargo shipped to be cheaper. Waterways are important because it is more expensive to ship bulk quantities over land or through the air. People on the other hand don't often have time for a week long sea voyage, so they prefer air travel. On the other hand if you don't design a water vessel to go somewhere but just to stay in one place, then you have a place where people can live.
Take this apartment building for instance, suppose we wanted to build it on water and not on land? We would need an ocean platform for that.
Get rid of the oil rig and replace it with an apartment building such as the one above.
I think the first application would be a hotel. We have cruise ships already which are basically floating hotels. Suppose we built a floating hotel off the coast of Florida, and there was a ferry to take guests to and from this hotel, the hotel sits off the shore and doesn't go anywhere, so unlike a cruise ship you don't have to wait until it is in port before you can board. If a hurricane threatens, the hotel can be towed to safety, but otherwise it stays in place, serving guests.
It wasn't the music of the spheres, was it?
Well you got to have some background music, you can't just have silence, because then people would be adjusting the volume nobs of their television sets and complaining that they aren't getting any sound! They will switch to other channels and get sound, then they would switch back and then call up the station and complain that they aren't broadcasting any sound. The music just lets the viewers know that there isn't anything wrong with their television sets, or with the station that's broadcasting, there just is no spaceship sounds to broadcast.
Where would you rather live, in Antarctica or on the surface of an ocean where it is nice and warm, where it rains often enough to get fresh water to meet your needs, so unlike in a desert, you won't be dying of thirst. Seems to me there is a lot of evaporation going on above the ocean surface, so even if it doesn't rain, you just pump ocean air through a refrigerator and the water just condenses right out, you got reverse osmosis as well to provide fresh water, but mostly you can just walk outside onto the deck and enjoy the nie ocean sun, no frostbite to worry about.
Star Trek ships make a noise in the vacuum. How annoying is that?
Not in the classic series, the only time the Enterprise made noise was when it fired its phasers or photon torpedoes, it warp and impulse engines were very quite, though there was music going on in the background!
George W. Bush invaded Iraq after 9/11. That was stupid, Iraq wasn't involved. Al Qaeda did 9/11, and they were in Afghanistan. The Taliban offered to hand over Osama bin Laden, their only condition was evidence he was guilty. Any western country including Canada would demand evidence before handing over a resident for a capital offence. George W. should have first extracted any agent that would be compromised by the evidence, then hand over the evidence. If the Taliban still refused, then invade. But only invade Afghanistan. However, considering how fickle those in the Arab world are, I doubt the Taliban would have further risked invasion; they would most likely have handed over Osama bin Laden.
Do you think Osama Bin Laden was innocent? Well if Osama Bin Laden was innocent, then Obama sent in Seal Team Six and murdered him. Osama Bin Laden never did get a trial, but the person who was responsible for his death was Barack Obama. I think Osama Bin Laden was guilty, but the first step to putting him on trial would have been to apprehend him, instead Obama sent a Seal Team in to kill him, thus he got no trial! I suspect Obama didn't want to capture him alive, because then he would have to incarcerate him, and he was trying to empty out Guantanamo, not fill it up! But you know, this was all in the past, one could just as easily have said, "Someone should have shot Hitler during World War I. There were a lot of bullets flying at the time, so why didn't they? Are you going to blame the man who could have shot Hitler but didn't, for World War II? When we examine history, there is a lot of 20/20 hindsight. We have information that people at the time did not have. For instance, we know a lot of the life story of Adolf Hitler, with that information we could do something, if we went back in time, that other people who lived during that time could not! You think you could be a better President than George W. Bush with knowledge of the future, which he did not have? So could a lot of people.
It started with screw-ups by Bill Clinton. When he didn't get permission to arrest Osama bin Laden, he sent a B52 bomber to carpet bomb their camp. So al Qaeda moved to a cave, where air-dropped bombs cannot reach them. So Bill Clinton sent a cruise missile into their cave. Each time the attack on al Qaeda was not authorized by the government of Afghanistan. Each time those killed became martyrs.

You want to know what a martyr is, that is a martyr, not some scumbag terrorist who murders people! I think the Muslim definition of martyr is different from the Christian one.
Each time the number of new recruits exceeded those killed.
That is because we haven't killed enough! How many "new recruits" did the Japanese have after we bombed Tokyo, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki? The Japanese started its war with us by bombing Pearl Harbor, just as Al Qaeda did by crashing airplanes into he World Trade Center. The Japanese had a lot of suicide bombers just like Al Qaeda did, was General MacArthur and Admiral Nimitz afraid of making martyrs of the Japanese, when they bomb them? Did FDR hold them back or give them rules of engagement which was as restrictive as the ones faced by our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan? You know one of the reasons I voted for Trump was that he reminded me of FDR during World War II. FDR did not hold back, he fought a total war against both the Germans and the Japanese, we need that sort of attitude if we are going to beat the terrorists!


These two presidents have a lot in common.
1. They were both rich
2. They were both from the state of New York
3. They were both wartime presidents.
It started with just regional trouble created by al Qaeda, grew to attacks on US embassies... *after* the B52 carpet bombed their camp. That grew to attack the USS Cole *after* the cruise missile attack on their cave. Bill Clinton just kept escalated, but al Qaeda just escalated too. It became obvious they would have to counter-attack the US on American soil. They attempted a truck bombing of the World Trade Center. After that many people, including myself, believed al Qaeda would try again. One senior investigator at the FBI also believed al Qaeda would try again, proceeded with investigation of them and was in regular contact with Condoleezza Rice. But this paragraph was supposed to point out how Bill Clinton took a regional annoyance and turned it into a major threat.
America should have stayed out of the war in Syria. That was a proxy war between Iraq and Saudi Arabia. America stopped buying Middle East oil, so these two countries started viciously competing for remaining market. But America has an alliance with Saudi Arabia, so Barack Obama allowed America to get dragged in. The US provided weapons to arm the rebels. Syria is a traditional ally of Russia, so Russia couldn't let that stand, they helped the Syrian military defeat the US-backed rebels. The fight dragged out because Russia couldn't let US backed rebels win, and whenever Syrian government forces started to defeat the rebels, America would provide more weapons. The Clintons attempted to undermine Russia's allies, so did Hillary have something to do with this? It dragged on so long that ISIS formed and took control of some rural areas that were not protected by either the Syrian military nor rebels. And a branch of al Qaeda itself did the same: formerly known as al-Nusra Front, now called Jabhat Fateh al-Sham. So Syria is broken into 4 chunks, each fighting the others.
So there's lots of blame to go around: George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton.
Part of the solution is to work with Russia to defeat ISIS. That starts with stop supporting the rebels. I think we can count on Trump for that. But he's demonizing Muslims, which could escalate the conflict.
It looks like we could use some help from an unusual source as The Surprisingly Modern Tech inside an Amish Horse-Drawn Buggy
They have learned to not count of high tech but on how to impliment its use...Amish aren’t against technology. Communities adopt new gadgets such as fax machines and business-use cellphones all the time—as long as the local church approves each one ahead of time, determining that it won’t drastically change their way of life.
Which means they still carry with them that hard working ethic and frontiers aditude.
I think all will enjoy as we are really starting mars at a simular place as we can not dump a world of resources onto Mars just to make it easy.....
They would have to develop a spacesuit for the horse. Can you imagine how difficult it would be to get a horse in a space suit, then the space suit would have to be cleaned after the horse poops and pees in it! And just how do you transport a horse to Mars anyway? The spacesuit designed to keep the horse alive on Mars so it can pull a cart, is very modern tech indeed! In fact its so modern than it hasn't been invented yet! NASA hasn't done any work on horse spacesuits, there aren't even any prototypes!
Hundreds of American diplomats defied a White House warning on Tuesday, sending a memo to the State Department's leadership that criticizes President Donald Trump's temporary travel ban on citizens from seven Muslim-majority countries. It is believed to be one of the most popularly supported statements of dissent in the department's history. Washington, Massachusetts, Virginia and New York are becoming the first states to sue the Trump administration with filings announced this week over the executive order restricting refugees and immigration. They likely won't be standing alone for long. Since Donald Trump was elected president, Democratic state attorneys general have been forming a coordinated wall of legal resistance over immigration, environmental protections, health care, and other major issues. Dump trucks and heavy machinery rolled into the protest camp near the site of the Dakota Access Pipeline on Monday, and crews began filling large dumpsters with garbage that has accumulated, much of it now buried under snow. Those involved said it was not an effort to destroy the camp, which sits on U.S. Army Corps of Engineers land, but a move to prevent waste contaminating water sources. The clean-up marked cooperation among authorities and camp organizers. The decision to clean the site, where a few hundred protesters remain, was made on Sunday by state and local officials and members of the Standing Rock Sioux tribe. “It is paramount for public safety, and to prevent an environmental disaster, that the camps be cleared prior to a potential spring flood.”
Obama Diplomats that have handed us a New Cold War with Russia and a continuation of the Jihad against the West that they have not solved! What they have tried as not worked, so why shouldn't they let Donald Trump try something else?
Tom "When Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990, president George H. W. Bush " at the request of the Kuwait government as we do not take over nations, we were asked to take there land back from Saddam and nothing more for there govenment....It was Bush Jr. that continued the war with Saddam under the vail of Chemical weapons of mass destruction after 9/11...as well as with Afganistan....
When you generalize a populous like you are by color, race, nationality, religion you are profiling them as if they are all that way and you know that its not true just look at your own family heritage....as I know that all Russian are not bad first hand as I have work along side of them in several companies....This also holds for other nationals from Spain, Scotland, Egypt, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam... do you get the picture....
Reciting a history, of how supposedly George W. Bush is responsible, doesn't point to a solution, even if I were to agree with you about that, this still doesn't solve our current problem with ISIS and Al Qaeda. Saying Americans deserve to die because of what they did in the past does not solve our problem. Convincing Americans that their ancestors were bad for enslaving blacks and killing Indians still is not going to convince most of us that we should just lay down and die. If Arabs are screaming for revenge against American for supposedly what we had done, they are still a problem for us to deal with. You haven't mentions a solution that would end this war, and if we stop fighting and they keep on killing us, then this war hasn't ended! Barack Obama would loved to have ended this war, but unfortunately the Enemy is not cooperating. Obama has even gone to lengths to avoid calling it Islamic terrorism and he's gone as far as calling domestic terrorist attacks "workplace violence" but this has not worked. The Terrorists have kept the war against us alive throughout all 8 years of Obama's Presidency, and now those 8 years are up, and now its time we fight back and destroy them, because they have asked for this!
Tom, you just don't learn. Saddam Hussein was created by the CIA. He was a teenage nobody before the CIA decided to help him, train him, provide weapons. He's America's guy. He overthrew Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr. That previous president was for Iraq, not a vassal of the US. The CIA thought they could control Saddam Hussein. They were wrong. Osama bin Laden was a leader within the Mujahadeen; he was also trained and supplied by the CIA to fight against Russians occupying Afghanistan. Again the CIA thought they could control him; again they were wrong. Every time the US uses military force to intervene in the internal affairs of another country, they fail. And more military force just makes it worse.
And rather than obsess by the 3,000+ American soldiers who died fighting in Iraq, try caring about the 100,000+ Iraqi civilians killed.
And get real Tom. "Go home" means pull all American military troops out of Middle Eastern countries. Go back the continental US.
And they get to attack us in our home country! Do you know what's in Iraq now? ISIS, there objective is to kill Americans if we don't convert to their form of Islam! How exactly do we "go home" from a global war waged against us? Why should I care about 100,000+ Iraqi civilians if they are trying to kill Americans? If they are paying taxes to ISIS, then that money is going towards killing Americans, if they put on a uniform and fight for ISIS, then they are trying to kill Americans. Isolationism only works if there is some place we can withdraw to, but there is not! The War ISIS is fighting is not a regional one but a global one, and we're part of that globe. The advice your giving us about foreign policy does not work because 314 million Americans can't fly off to Mars! That is not practical nor possible for the foreseeable future, and even if we could be chased off the planet, ISIS would probably come after us still even then! So running away with our tails tucked between our legs I not going to work, so the question is what will. Trying to assign blame to the United States of American for supposedly causing our own problem with Islamic terrorism doesn't point to a solution to our problems. The CIA didn't invent Islam by the way, if we did invent a religion I don't think it would be Islam. The only way to stop this global war is to destroy the enemy, that is those who wage this war against us. These people will not compromise, and what they ask of us is not reasonable. Are you a Muslim Robert? Are you prepared to meet ISIS's conditions for peace with us, that means you convert to their definition of Islam, you grow a beard, and remember to pray five times a day while facing in the direction of Mecca, and by the way eat no pork and shave your arm pits! Are you willing to do all that for peace? If the Islamacists weren't so full of themselves, then maybe this war could have a negotitated end, but unfortunately they are.
Tom Kalbfus wrote:He couldn't end the war in 100 days because he couldn't or wouldn't win the war in 100 days. The only way to end the war is by winning it, you forget we didn't start this war, the terrorists did, and so long as they keep thinking they can win, they will keep on fighting and attacking.
You can't "win". There's no way to "win".
If we can't win, we can't end the War, they will simply keep on attacking! What do you suggest we do about that? Shrug it off, so they kill a few hundred Americans and then a few hundred more, should we just accept that our lives are going to be a little shorter because of them and do nothing about it?
When Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990, president George H. W. Bush gave general Normal Schwarzkopf orders to have a clear object and a clear exit strategy before he went in. He did. He kicked but, cleaned up, when home.
But you see, he didn't finish off the Enemy, and the Enemy was Saddam Hussein. We finished of Hitler and the Nazis, we didn't simply just kick them out of France and then turn around and go home. In order to win a war, we need to totally defeat the enemy, the enemy needs to be destroyed so he will not attack again!
In 1991! Unfortunately some Yahoo in Washington decided to establish "no-fly zones" over Iraq.
That is pathetic, if we have won the War and finished off the enemy like we did the Nazis and the Japanese, there would be no need for no fly zones. You see George Bush's problem is that he was too kind to the Enemy, gave him too many breaks, he allowed them to survive and have a country to rule at the end of the War, and they started the War! That is something you just don't do! If it weren't for Saddam Hussein, there would have been no Persian Gulf War, the only way to prevent the war from restarting was to remove him from power if not actually kill him! The Persian Gulf War was not a misunderstanding between two countries, it was started by him, he was the problem we needed to get rid of in order to end the war permanently, and George H. W. Bush did not do that. It is fortunate that someone like him was not President during World War II!
That perpetuated the war by interfering in internal domestic affairs. Although Obama announced the pull-out of Iraq, he left 200 troops. Now with ISIS the US is back. So the US never has left Iraq. When you interfere in internal domestic affairs of another country, you always lose. Domestic politicians will always hold outsiders as the evil enemy to blame for all their wows. You can't win, just leave.
We can't leave the planet! What planet do you suggest the United States go to in order to leave. The enemy just keeps on attacking because he thinks he is on a mission from God to conquer the World for Islam. We can't leave an Enemy bent on World Conquest, we need to destroy him!
Tom Kalbfus wrote:If racism gets solved, then the race hustlers, who make a living from it, are out of business! They don't want to go out of business, so they keep on reminding people that whites are racist, and all the terrible things about slavery, and they try to get blacks angry about that so they support the race hustlers, it is a vicious cycle.
That is true, so why are you a "race hustler"?
And why do you say that? Because I like law and order? I guess not wanting to be robbed, mugged, or murdered makes one a racist, cause I just won't tolerate crime or accept it. If living with blacks means living with crime and violence, then I don't want it. Are you saying that is what is required? Are they hard wired for crime? If you suggest that police doing their job is racist, then that is what you are suggesting. I've seen too many race riots, where some blacks don't like some outcome in a court case and they burn down a neighborhood, this is not acceptable behavior! Are you suggesting that I live with that 152 years after the end of slavery in this country?

What does this chart show you?
http://dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploa … IGHRES.jpg
Why it shows Defense spending reaching a peak in 2008, the last year of the Bush Administration and then dropping after that. Didn't think I'd pull a chart on you, did you!
I could understand you don't like Hillary. When Bill Clinton was president, I thought Hillary would make a better president. However, both Clintons had deliberately tried to re-start the cold war by trying to convince Russia's allies to abandon Russia. They stirred up trouble but cutting Russia's economy by cutting off their trading partners. And she actually proposed a "no-fly zone" over Syria. That would have meant American fighter jets shooting down Russian fighter jets, owned by the Russian air force and operated by Russian pilots. That could easily have escalated to WW3!
Not really, Russian and US airplanes might shoot each other down, but I doubt Russia would risk the destruction of its cities over Syria. Russia would only react with a nuclear attack if the US were to invade Russia, and Syria is not Russia! The thing to remember is that if Russia gets destroyed, then Putin loses power, and Putin does not want that! I don't think the US would start a nuclear war over Syria either. Russia has not announced that it was extending its nuclear shield over Syria, and I would not see the value in doing that. Russia is playing for points, it don't want to risk its existence over this!
Tom, the civil war was over a century ago. Wikipedia says it ended 1865. Get over it! It's long overdue to end tensions between blacks and whites. And Obama signed a presidential decree to entirely close the prison at Guantanamo Bay. Good! Unfortunately some Republican judge overruled him.
There are people called race hustlers, they stay in business by aggravating racial tensions and Obama is one of those, he likes to handcuff police and take the side of rioters, and criminals who get in a fire fight with police. For instance if a black thug pulls a knife on a cop and the cop shoots him, then that is self-defense. If a black thug charges a cop, trying to grab his gun, and the cop shoots him, that is self-defense, Obama calls it racism. I have a real problem if Obama expects me to live in dangerous crime ridden neighborhoods as the price for living in the same country with black people. Obama thinks e need to tolerate high crime, and he wants to legalize dangerous drugs that blacks are fond of using, such as crack cocaine, because he thinks it is racism to blacks to be arrested for using those drugs, as it I assumed they can't help themselves, they are "only black" after all!
If racism gets solved, then the race hustlers, who make a living from it, are out of business! They don't want to go out of business, so they keep on reminding people that whites are racist, and all the terrible things about slavery, and they try to get blacks angry about that so they support the race hustlers, it is a vicious cycle.
Obama eviscerated the Defence Budget? Bull shit! The military and national security budget in year 2000 was $288 billion. That includes DoD and nuclear weapons, which is part of the Department of Energy. George W. ballooned it up to $799 billion for 2009. The budget was 2009 was passed in 2008, so the last budget approved by Dubya. However, Obama's first budget was for 2010, military and national security was $901 billion! What! That's backwards! We expected Obama to cut military spending, end the war in Iraq in his first 100 days, and end the war in Afghanistan before the Congressional mid-term elections of 2010. He failed.
He couldn't end the war in 100 days because he couldn't or wouldn't win the war in 100 days. The only way to end the war is by winning it, you forget we didn't start this war, the terrorists did, and so long as they keep thinking they can win, they will keep on fighting and attacking. If we want to end this war, we need to destroy them! Obama just doesn't get that, he thinks we can turn our back on them and they will disappear.
Tom Kalbfus wrote:Which is more dangerous to neighbors, a nuclear reactor or a mosque? Both have potential externalities which could be dangerous. A lot of people feel uncomfortable living near a nuclear reactor, how about a mosque? What could go wrong with both? A nuclear reactor could melt down and release dangerous radioactivity, A mosque could produce a terrorist!
Or public school could produce a Trump supporter.
And what's wrong with a Trump supporter? You didn't have to live under eight years of the Obama Administration! You had a nice sensible Conservative Prime Minister and government for most of that time with ration pro-Canadian policies. Obama wasn't pro-American, he wanted to get even with a country that was mostly white, for slavery and racial discrimination, he wasn't interested in good racial relations between blacks and whites! Obama damaged the economy with higher taxes and he eviscerated the Defense Budget while sending our soldiers to foreign places to die without the support of our government! It was definitely time to change, and I didn't want to support a lying weasel from the same Democratic Party as Obama just because she was a woman and married to an ex-president.
If a tarriff is on mexican good and they are no longer bought then just how much will you collect to build your wall... try the number zero.....
President Trump Orders New Limits on Regulations He signs the Trump Signs Executive Order to Curtail Regulations aimed at slashing federal regulations to help businesses...
Not as simple as that, the truth is it depends on the demand curve, there is a certain range of tariffs that will produce the maximum revenue, go above that and revenue will drop due to decreased imports, go below that and revenue will drop due to less revenue collected. A tariff can do one of two things, it can be used to discourage imports from Mexico, or it can be used to raise revenue. If you want to maximize revenue, you don't want to discourage imports by raising the tariffs too high, but if you want to discourage imports, you are not going to get much revenue our of a tariff designed to do that. So Trump is going to have to decide what to do, does he want to pay for the wall or does he want to discourage trade with Mexico, a tariff would efficiently do both at the same time, as there is a trade off between one and the other.
It strikes me that nobody has done the risk assessments. If they did they would concentrate on bigger problems which might be easier to deal with.


Which is more dangerous to neighbors, a nuclear reactor or a mosque? Both have potential externalities which could be dangerous. A lot of people feel uncomfortable living near a nuclear reactor, how about a mosque? What could go wrong with both? A nuclear reactor could melt down and release dangerous radioactivity, A mosque could produce a terrorist!
What about them, does adding to that a number of people killed by terrorist attacks help? Some of that misuse of firearms was the attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, a terrorist attack involving firearms is a misuse!
A tariff is a tax, Trump can't pass one without the House of Representatives, and the House of Representatives doesn't want to. There is probably a face saving way to say that Mexico paid for the Wall while getting it build. Mexico can mean either the Mexican government or its people. The cost of the wall is estimated to be around $15 billion. If we collect revenue on it from toll crossings along the border with Mexico over the next 10 years, we would need to collect $1.5 billion a year or $4,109,589 a day. If we charge $5 to cross the border, we would need 821,918 such border crossings a day to totally pay for the border wall. this doesn't require the Mexican Government to write us a check, so the can safe face by saying that they didn't pay for it, while Trump can say Mexico did. I think a 20% tariff would pay for the wall rather quickly, but if don't take interest into account, we have an arrangement where Mexico pays for it over whatever period is required to get it paid for, the books are then balanced and everyone is happy!
Trump's ban is disguise for xenophobia along with these other words Racism, Misogyny were all said of his character.....
And what about banning people from misogynistic cultures? If we bring in people that believe women are property belonging to their nearest male relative or to their husbands, what does that do to women's rights if they become citizens and vote? Do you want Islamic Law in our country? Do you want Muslim ghettos of no go zones for non-muslims existing within our country as they do in Europe?
His phobia is spreading Gunmen open fire on Quebec City mosque
It wouldn't happen if Muslims weren't there in the first place, and the fact that some of them were supporters of terrorism or were even terrorists themselves! It I easier to tolerate Muslims when they live on the other side of an ocean and they kill mosly Muslims in their own countries, rather than your friends and relatives here. Part of the attacks on Muslims is motivated by revenge for previous Muslim attacks on non-Muslims. If we don't allow Muslims to come here in the first place we don't have this problem of terrorism or of some people wanting to get revenge for that terrorism. By letting in some people who may be terrorists, you are increasing the risk to American citizens that they may be subject to terrorist attacks by Muslims, and where there is fear there is also hatred. Islamic culture has some problems, namely that much of it tolerates terrorism or even justifies it! By bringing such people here, you are also fanning the flames of intolerance back at them. Not every American is a stoic, willing to take the slings, arrows, bombs and bullets the Arab terrorist wants to shoot at them! Where there is fear, there are some people willing to act on it. I'd like Islamic terrorism to remain mostly a middle east problem and notmakeit an American problem as well.
There was also another Texas Mosque which was also burned to the ground as well since his orders....
Maybe if they weren't Muslims, they wouldn't be targets for people seeking revenge for previous Islamic terrorist attacks against Americans. People see so many news stories about terrorism, and some don't want to tolerate new Muslims moving into their neighborhood and giving them something to worry about. Isolatonism also means keeping the bad people out as well as not meddling in their affairs. If we bring them into out country, we are then involved, and so we might as well send out soldiers out to bomb the heck out of those countries that are sending terrorists our way. the idea of America was the get away from religious intolerance, and that means keeping out those people that want to wage a religious war on us.
Billionaires Charles Koch and David Koch network slams Trump immigrant ban
Well billionaires have their own private security guards, they are not taking the same risks we are when our country lets in people with a higher chance of being Islamic terrorists. Charles Koch is quite safe, because the Islamic terrorists won't be able to reach him, but we have to rely on the police, the government, and the state department and border patrol to protect us!
Billionaire innovator Elon Musk pledged Sunday to seek a consensus among fellow business executivesappointed to advise President Trump on needed changes to an immigration ban that stirred an outcry around the country. The Tesla Motors and SpaceX CEO is part of a chorus of tech executives who have denounced Trump's immigration policy.
Why else would people want to colonize space? Mostly its to get away from the Old World where dangerous religious fanatics that want to kill us live. It would be nice to live in a space colony where "Jonnie Jihad" wasn't allowed to visit and blow things up! We have enough problems with the hazards of space without introducing an unstable human element into it!
There is not enough water to make Water World, that movie was an exaggeration just like the other movie The Day After Tomorrow.
No one asked the illegal immigrants to sneak across the border, and if they want to take back California, we'll just boot them back across the border into Mexico without it! You know what happened to Ukraine with all of those Russian Immigrants, You heard of what happened to those Germans in Czechoslovakia, when Hitler used them as an excuse to invade. I would like to keep all 50 states thank you very much, and maybe add a few more in the 21st century. That Federal Judge wasn't the final word on this, he was an Obama Judge, and Trump has yet to make his Supreme Court pick.

You know of course there has been quite a bit of global warming since 18,000 years ago. The Earth has been warming since before the first civilization rose on the fertile crescent. Since before there was agriculture, and before the Wooly Mammoth went extinct, but you know the time scale in which this global warming occurred, and no one is going to drown in 1 foot of water 1 century from now!
What I had in mind was a floating city on barges moored together, sort of along the lines of the old movie "Waterworld", but focused on aquaculture in a netted volume beneath the city, instead of that post-apocalyptic nonsense in the movie. There's no need of robotics to build and operate such a thing, although having ROV's would certainly help. You'd have to locate it in the right place so that ocean currents maintain its climate location, instead of routing it toward the cold regions and back. Maybe the middle of the Sargasso Sea?
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You would need thousands or robots per person to make the necessary land cheap enough, and I'm talking artificial hills, soil trees and everything like that, not some sorry rusty boats tossing in the waves!
They would rather be part of Mexico? What about all those illegals that got there, all their work would be undone!
elderflower wrote:Just a bit crap for those who live near sea level. eg me and 3 billion others.
Well, yes, but it would take centuries.
Plenty of time to dev the new coastlines.
Well the global warming people want a sense of urgency, they want to portray global warming as big a disaster as they can, that way they get the government crash programs that they want! They want us to panic, they want us to be running bck and forth yelling that they "sky is falling" they want us demanding of our congressmen that they increase taxes and begin a massive spending program to save the human race from extinction, a typical sci fi plot.
The unlawful removal of constitutional rights under free speech by Republican lawmakers as several central U.S. states are pushing bills that would crack down on demonstrations, drawing criticism from free speech campaigners and underlining the polarization over protests in North Dakota, Indiana and Iowa that would impose measures such as harsher penalties for demonstrators who disrupt traffic, and scrapping punishment for drivers who unintentionally strike protesters blocking their vehicles. The push for stricter laws comes as opponents of Trump have vowed to take to the streets to demonstrate against his policies on issues ranging from immigration to abortion and climate change. Then again the Trump's wall could cost an estimated $120 per US household is probably lower that what I think it will cost you......
Now on to the arrest of Russian Charged With Treason Worked in Office Linked to Election Hacking Moscow are prosecuting at least one cybersecurity expert for treason, a prominent Russian criminal defense lawyer confirmed on Friday. Russian internal investigation led to two other arrests, and that all of the detentions were related to American investigations into Russian hacking during the election.
Democrats call rioting "speech", Rioters "speak" with baseball bats, Molotov cocktails, burning tires, setting limousines on fire, breaking windows, burning stores down to the ground. I don't think "freedom of speech" means that!
https://twitter.com/bnonews/status/822556305550376960
Then we have Madonna's "lovely" F.U. Speech at the women's march!
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Mad … &FORM=VIRE
Madonna thinks she is so clever by showing the World that she can curse! How "original", How "artistic" she is! Maybe she will put together an F.U. song for her next album!
Ever wonder why conservatives don't have as foul mouths as the so-called liberals that come out and protest? As I stated before, Trump hasn't really done anything yet, so all those women decided to come out and show their hatred and prejudice for Trump. Trump hasn't done anything to them, and whether he as a good husband to his three wives is frankly none of their business. Ivana Trump, Marla Maples, and Melanie Trump haven't joined this march.