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#326 Unmanned probes » Register Now To Put Your Name on Mars Insight Lander! Deadline Nov 1 » 2017-10-11 12:16:33

EdwardHeisler
Replies: 2

When it lands on Mars in November of 2018, NASA's InSight lander will be carrying several science instruments -- along with hundreds of thousands of names from members of the public.

When you register your name will be placed on a silicon microchip onboard the robotic spacecraft.   And you will receive a "boarding pass"
for the lander. 

Register at:
https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/participate/s … e/insight/

#327 Human missions » SpaceX's new plan to get to Mars BFR comparison and summary » 2017-10-02 21:26:57

EdwardHeisler
Replies: 26

Published on Sep 29, 2017
Elon Musk revealed the update to SpaceX’s highly anticipated and ambitious rocket, the BFR. We compare this version of the BFR to last year’s version as well as speculate about SpaceX's mind blowing plans to head to the Moon, Mars as well as anywhere on Earth within one hour!

See the video at this link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_3GPpI … e=youtu.be


BFR: Elon's 2017 Mars Plan Explained!

Published on Sep 29, 2017
BFR, the New Mars colonization plan was unveiled today. I think it's pretty exciting, keeping the plan grounded, thinking for the future. Although the timeline still is a bit aggressive, overall I think SpaceX is on the right track. Hope you guys like this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pduQzUH8xg

#329 Water on Mars » Methane Bursts Helped Keep Liquid Water Flowing On Mars, Study Finds » 2017-10-02 13:42:59

EdwardHeisler
Replies: 2

Explosive bursts of methane helped ancient Mars keep liquid water flowing, study finds

By Amina Khan
Los Angeles Times
October 2, 2018

In  a drying time, Mars may have been kept warm enough for liquid water to remain stable on the surface thanks to explosive bursts of methane gas, a new study finds.

The simulations, described in the journal Nature Geoscience, could explain how Mars managed to sustain a series of lakes in a climate that at first glance seems too cold and arid to have done so.

Since landing on the Red Planet in August 2012, NASA’s rover Curiosity has discovered that 96-mile-wide Gale Crater held a series of lakes around 3.5 billion years ago. The rocks it has drilled and X-rayed and lasered have also revealed environments that would have been potentially habitable for Earth-like life.

Keep in mind, however, that Mars’ wettest period was likely the first billion years of its 4.6-billion-year life, the Noachian period, when it had a thicker atmosphere that would have been better able to keep liquid water stable on the planet’s surface.

“Although the climate was relatively cold compared to Earth, there is evidence that liquid water flowed in streams and rivers, formed alluvial fans and deltas, and ponded in big lakes and possibly seas,” Alberto Fairén of the Centro de Astrobiología in Spain and Cornell University, who was not involved in the paper, wrote in a commentary.

Then came the 600-million-year Hesperian period, when the Red Planet began to transform from a cold, wet world to a cold, icy one, as the protective atmosphere thinned and the planet’s interior cooled. The next 3 billion years until now are known as the Amazonian period, during which Mars solidified its reputation as the cold, dry planet we see today.

So here’s the thing that’s puzzled planetary scientists: Gale Crater’s rocks bear evidence of liquid water on Mars during the Hesperian period, including lakes (perhaps protected by a layer of surface ice) and deltas. But that means these lakes and deltas persisted during a period that was markedly drier, with a thinner atmosphere less capable of sustaining liquid water. How do these two facts square up?

“Previous hypotheses have struggled to explain lake-forming climates that are both rare and long-lasting,” Fairén wrote. “For example, volcanism and impacts can produce episodes of climate warming, but not of sufficiently long duration.”

Now, lead author Edwin Kite, a planetary scientist the University of Chicago, and his colleagues say that after running climate models they’ve come up with an explanation: explosive bursts of methane.

Here’s how it works. The Red Planet’s obliquity, or tilt on its axis, can vary far more dramatically than Earth’s does. The researchers think that occasional dramatic shifts in that tilt (perhaps around 10 to 20 degrees) would have exposed ice-covered parts of the Martian surface to the sun, causing that cover to shrink fairly quickly. The ice’s retreat would have exposed clathrates filled with pockets of methane, allowing the methane to burst out of the ground and into the atmosphere.

Methane is a powerful greenhouse gas – about 25 times as powerful as carbon dioxide. So if enough of it were to emerge from the ground at the same time, it could actually result in a significant amount of warming, the thinking goes.

Now, eventually, methane gets broken down by sunlight. But in the meantime, Kite and his colleagues found that it could lead to warming lasting hundreds of thousands of years – long enough to explain the extended presence of liquid water during this otherwise dry time in Martian history, scientists say.

What does this mean for the possibility that life could have emerged on Mars? Kite was quick to point out that if any microbes ever lived on the Red Planet, they would likely have done so during its earliest days, when water was far more abundant.

“If life ever established itself on Mars, then it would have probably done so before the relatively young (less than 3.6 billion years ago) features modeled in our paper,” Kite wrote in an email.

Regardless, the study reveals an increasingly complex portrait of a planet in transition, scientists said.

“The methane burst scenario proposed by Kite et al. contributes to an emerging view that the existence of liquid water on early Mars arose from a combination of diverse astronomical, geochemical and geological factors,” Fairén wrote. “Although it seems unlikely that a single mechanism can explain not only the presence of liquid water, but its recurrence and persistence, the methane burst hypothesis provides a means to episodically tip the Hesperian climate over the edge.”

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencen … story.html

#330 Re: Space Policy » New NASA Administrator - Jim Bridenstine » 2017-09-30 16:41:26

Does Bridenstine support or oppose the ban on NASA collaborating with China's National Space Administration and space scientists?

I've been unable to find anything on the web concerning his views on this vital issue.

If any member can find information on this matter please post the article and link.

Thank you!

#331 Re: Not So Free Chat » U.S. Should End the Ban on NASA Working With China's Space Scientists » 2017-09-30 12:19:53

China, Russia set to ink landmark deal for manned moon missions

Published on Aug 27, 2017
China and Russia are set to sign a milestone agreement on joint space exploration from 2018 to 2022. The deal is expected to be signed this October and will bring significant benefits to both nations, particularly in manned and future missions to the moon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX4eDhVSra4

#332 Re: Not So Free Chat » U.S. Should End the Ban on NASA Working With China's Space Scientists » 2017-09-30 12:15:08

Former NASA chief, Charles Bolden, called for partnership with China in space program.

The US needs to cooperate more with China.
That's according to NASA chief Charles Bolden, who recently urged his country to cooperate with China in the US's human space programs. Bolden made the remarks on Monday during the International Astronautical Congress. Otherwise, he warned, the U.S. would face being left out of new ventures to send people beyond the International Space Station.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vaVYHIr9aY

#333 Re: Not So Free Chat » U.S. Should End the Ban on NASA Working With China's Space Scientists » 2017-09-30 12:01:35

SpaceX sidesteps ban on working with China

SpaceX has circumvented a US-imposed ban on space collaboration with China. In 2011, NASA was banned from collaborating with taikonauts (Chinese astronauts).   Because SpaceX is a private multinational company, the ban did not apply, and this is not the first time they’ve worked with China.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaT3ukZsJM8

#335 Re: Not So Free Chat » U.S. Should End the Ban on NASA Working With China's Space Scientists » 2017-09-29 19:28:18

Sorry you couldn't see the actual video.   What can I do to take it out of "edit" mode so that you and others can view the presentation?

#336 Not So Free Chat » U.S. Should End the Ban on NASA Working With China's Space Scientists » 2017-09-29 10:44:27

EdwardHeisler
Replies: 31

The following track presentation was given at the 20th Mars Society convention.

Click on the link to view the entire video.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7xZnUqklVM

#338 Mars Society International » Attended Mars Society Conference Call But My Microphone Didn't Work! » 2017-09-20 19:02:15

EdwardHeisler
Replies: 2

So I couldn't ask my question when the moderator asked for my comment!   

The technical problem was on my end.   

I just wanted to know if the conference call video, slides and transcript would be made available on our Mars Society website.

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