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While the Russian news releases lack large amounts of info they are at least anouncing which is more than they use to do.

It would appear that the Russian have been studing the play book on Oppurtunity and spirit success.

Maybe Nasa could save a little on exploration by paying for the data that they would need for future mission and for any manned missions to come.

Edit :
Russian viewpoint for space exploration.

PERMINOV ON LUNAR AND MARTIAN FLIGHTS
http://en.rian.ru/rian....alert=0

Sounds a lot like a solar eclispe box. It is used to block the harmful effect of direct viewing.

Yup it sure is frustrating all the cancellations. Here is a link to future mission Chronology of Lunar and Planetary Exploration (Future Missions).
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/upcoming.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/chrono_future.html

Past history probe page
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/projects.html

Here is the info on project and of it's cancellation of the Europa Orbiter.

A proposed follow-on mission to Galileo that would have probed Europa's surface with a radar sounder in an attempt to determine the thickness of the ice and locate any ice-water interface. Other instruments would have included an imaging device capable of resolving surface detail as small as 100 meters and an altimeter for accurately measuring the topography and movements of the surface in response to tidal stresses. The Europa Orbiter would have served as a precursor to other projects to sample the Europan surface and, eventually, to penetrate the top layers of ice to discover exactly what lies underneath (see Europa, future probes).

Orginally it was looked at for just a delay launch instead year 2010.
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/europa-orbitor-00a1.html

However, the Orbiter was eliminated from the Adminstration's FY2003 budget to Congress. Presumably, considering the potential importance of this spacecraft in the search for life elsewhere, there will be an attempt to revive it, or some new version of it, in the future.

I wished that the article gave more info on the goals of the mission but we will just have to wait.

Russia to Send Spacecraft to Mars Moon in 2009
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/10/08/marsmoon.shtml

Well the crowd is cheering and here is one back for you.

Truly an Image of Another World

This image was taken by Rover Opportunity's Navcam inside Endeavour Crater, Meridiani, Mars on 6 October 2004.

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=14154

Some words by Steven Beckwith, the director of the Space Telescope Science Institute on the Hubble.

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/hubble-04r.html

Closing comments got me.. do we all feel the same way about those that are active in regards to space. They are hero's thou there names may not be known...

I beleive that Nasa todate has only cleared 5 out of the required recommendations that the CAIB put forth in there report.
This one would have give those on the ground the info to stay in orbit rather than come down and would have lead to at least a space walk to explore the damage that was done.

Kennedy Space Center upgrades video system
http://gcn.com/vol1_no1/daily-updates/27576-1.html

Great numbers on the solar cell energy and such for a rover use.

Hour to get between sites is in the probable 4 to 6 hours before you would need to turn around and go back to base camp for maximum use of daylight hours. Distance is much harder to resolve to a number since you would be stopping and starting in order to carry out experiments and observations.

Not sure about the weight and cryrogenic refrigeration, I think this makes the vehicle to large and very heavy. Not to mention that you now must shield the crew from the cold of the tanks but also from any explosion of them.

I not sure about the amount of life support number needed to keep the crew warm from electric heaters, versus giving them air to breath from the electrolosys process.

The need to keep the first vehicles simple and light weight comes to mind from the lunar buggy.

Well I tried by doing a simple search first on swift and here is what I got: ???

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Must be some of the other boxes.. 

It appears that bone loss will soon be a thing of the past if all goes right. Article has lots of details into how fast and what percentage. Inaddition talks of what else are issues as seem with long duration flights in reduced to 0g levels.

Drug may keep astronauts' bones strong
Annual injection could allow prolonged space missions.
http://www.nature.com/news/2004/041004/ … 04-14.html

A debate that will not go away -- whether the United States needs to create a separate branch of the military for space. Though I do not want space to turn out to be the next war zone I do understand the need for supremacy.

Separate Space Military Force Has Few Supporters at Pentagon
http://space.com/news/space_force_041007.html

I would say that it would be cheaper than the standard bearers that Nasa currently does use.