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#1 Re: Human missions » Kerry's position on space - any one know were Kerry stands » 2004-01-22 17:56:11

Too funny smile  Yes, I agree there are democrats who care about space exploration but if they care at all about seeing something happen in space they need to hold their noses or whatever and vote Bush.  We'll see the panel report on the new CEV and some preliminary dollar figures before the elections later this year most likely and at that time be able to make a fair judgement as to if it will ever go anywhere.  If it looks strictly pie in the sky vote for whoever you wish.

#2 Re: Human missions » Kerry's position on space - any one know were Kerry stands » 2004-01-22 10:46:18

Save yourself some trouble.  NONE of the democratic hopefuls will act on any human Moon or Mars mission.   Best case scenario they may support the CEV as a replacement for the shuttle only to the stage of development to rotate crews on the ISS.  Forget any advanced modules (if it does in fact turn out to be modular) such as alternate propulsion, small nuclear power modules, lunar or martian landing modules, etc.  Put a democrat in the white house and at best you'll get a capsule that can dock with the ISS.  Write off the rest for another 4 or 8 years and tack those years onto the moon and mars timeline.  Clinton supposedly had this wonderful economy and you see exactly how far space exploration changed in those 8 years with a huge budget surplus which coule have paid for a shuttle replacement easily.  Worst case, he'll get in the white house and decide to recertify the shuttle in 2010 and drop the new CEV just like all the other failed shuttle replacements.  If you care anything about space exploration forget the democrats exist for about the next 30 years.  If they ever get in control again and pass universal health care we'll be lucky to be launching Estes model rockets as a nation.

#3 Re: Human missions » Hubble mistake - Action needed » 2004-01-17 17:45:07

To clarify a bit, I am all for any space science programs we can dream up.  Like anyone else I have been amazed by the images from hubble.  That said, following the Bush policy which says we will finish the ISS, it scares me enough just having to make it safely through the remaining shuttle launces without adding one more to service hubble.  Any more shuttle disasters and it, worst case, will kill the Bush plan, and, best case delay it several years in all likelyhood.  We lose another shuttle full of astronauts and it becomes a monumental task selling a manned moon trip to the public.  Sane people would argue it just proves we should have retired the shuttle sooner but I don't have faith the "public" will see it that way.  Space isn't going anywhere anytime soon.  Unless government starts showing some big interest to really start coughing up funds for space exploration and research I just think we have to narrow our focus if we really want to see a thriving human exploration program which is much more likely to have more tangible immediate benefits for humans than great new pictures of a galaxy 500 light years away.  If everyone in the non-human exploration programs starts yelling for more funding and they get it then we might as well consider aggresive manned exploration DOA at least in our lifetime.  This is just my opinion, maybe I'm too cynical.  If it was me though,  as much as I love the idea of manned exploration, I'd kill anything not related to the moon and mars and putting humans there for at least 25 or 30 years.  The other planets and galaxies aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

#4 Re: Human missions » Hubble mistake - Action needed » 2004-01-17 15:54:20

There's a new one going up in 2011 - 2012 range which I would cancel as well.  I say save the money for Bush's new space policy and let Hubble die.  Too many other uncertain things as it is.  We're looking at 20? 25? missions already to finish that flying piece of junk space station as it is.  Imagine another Space Shuttle loss, another year or two delay in resuming flights again, and now you're looking at having to do recertification on the shuttle just to finish the station.  Add it up in terms of reality and tack 5 more years on getting on with Bush's plan.  I'll be holding my breath enough as it is just praying we make it through the remaining flights without any more accidents.

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