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#1 Re: Human missions » To the moon first... - then to Mars and asteroids... » 2004-01-10 13:28:34
I have no faith in the curent administration's words. Only financial motives have been policy. Maybe they want a "deathray" base? Let's leave the dark side for tourism and the full moon can have a military-industrial gunbarrel.
#2 Re: Interplanetary transportation » The Orion Peace Initiative » 2003-12-21 21:18:57
They seem very powerful, but nukes won't fuel one mission.
#3 Re: Terraformation » Atmospheric Degeneration » 2003-12-21 21:04:51
I have read theorys on differing amounts of H2o & Co2 existing in different parts of our orbits at different times in history. We do gather water from space. Sometimes in "biblical" amounts, IE: the Noarian flood.
#4 Re: Terraformation » Your Ethical Questions Addressed - Ecoethics and terraformation » 2003-12-21 20:29:28
This is the best thread I have ever read anywhere!
I'm a vivicapitalist: I believe our life forms deserve to dominate Mars. It is inevitable, our manifest destiny, with some data stored before conquest.
#5 Re: Planetary transportation » Entomopters! - Any techinical details? » 2003-12-21 20:14:51
It's pretty windy most of the time everywhere on mars, or will we discover differently? This is the main design variable of a mars flyer.
#6 Re: Life on Mars » Are there people against contamination of Mars? » 2003-12-21 19:30:45
I'm sorry,... take some samples and then plant some biological starter mix. I know some bryophites that would love to live there. If our lifeforms are the fittest, they should survive.
Can we even keep our own ecosystems free from non-natives? The bulldozer will win, it's human nature to take over. Our doom is unchangable like all life. We are the most durable species known, Mars life evolved too slow to keep up. I'm not being sarcastic. I'm Johnny Appleseed.
We go clumbsily forth or we don't go. Just my opinion.
I'm going to read on this, thanx for the info 
#7 Re: Life on Mars » Will Beagle 2 find signs of life on Mars? - Poll » 2003-12-19 21:18:04
No, I would have seen it by now. I like to entertain the previously live, now dead planet theory.
#8 Re: Life on Mars » Does mars contain life? - Does it? » 2003-12-19 21:15:28
Evidently we have splatterd life all over Mars. I doubt it existed before or it would have said "here I am". Life does that.
#9 Re: Life on Mars » Are there people against contamination of Mars? » 2003-12-19 21:00:59
WOW, what a witty, cerebral, and enthusiastic group! Just the kind of people I would terraform with.
To see succesional stages of life rise and fall in a dictatorial ballet on Mars is what I want to see. If there is an ecosystem there, and ours will obliterate it, so be it. In the noble cause of celestial preservation it is but a grain of sand. In the greater cause of reproduction, it is imperative we spread.
I'm sad about the damage to the Earth and Moon caused by the space programs, but we must reach out with all our might.
We can turn your mighty rocks to dust with just one cell.
We are proud representatives of this organized activity called carbon based life. Earthlife rules 
#10 Re: Life on Mars » Mars Sample Return - Threat of back-contamination » 2003-12-19 20:09:46
In 1999, the Polar Lander. I think water is the only important variable for sustained life on Mars.
The $165 million lander was supposed to touch down Dec. 3 for a 90-day mission to analyze the planet?s atmosphere and search for frozen water beneath its south pole. It has not been heard from since it started its descent after an 11-month cruise, and NASA has not offered a reason for the disappearance.
#11 Re: Life on Mars » Mars Sample Return - Threat of back-contamination » 2003-12-19 20:08:41
In 1999, the Polar Lander. I think water is the only important variable for sustained life on Mars.
The $165 million lander was supposed to touch down Dec. 3 for a 90-day mission to analyze the planet?s atmosphere and search for frozen water beneath its south pole. It has not been heard from since it started its descent after an 11-month cruise, and NASA has not offered a reason for the disappearance.
#12 Re: Life on Mars » Are there people against contamination of Mars? » 2003-12-14 15:54:35
I believe we put life on Mars. Life is tenacious. Are there people against its desterilization?
#13 Re: Terraformation » Nozomi might contaminate Mars - since it was not sterilized » 2003-12-14 15:48:11
NASA scientists agreed with me. Even the sterilized crashes put life on Mars. Someone had to have published about it. I'm very excited about this, help us out superbrains!
#14 Re: Terraformation » Nozomi might contaminate Mars - since it was not sterilized » 2003-12-14 15:43:45
Wow I found my people! Yes we did put life on Mars and it is doing quite well! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
#15 Re: Life on Mars » Mars Sample Return - Threat of back-contamination » 2003-12-14 15:37:28
No, wait.... It's just system contamination, not back contamination, sorry.
#16 Re: Life on Mars » Mars Sample Return - Threat of back-contamination » 2003-12-14 15:34:49
I presented my theory of back contamination ( I just learned that phrase) online with a Langley research scientist a few years ago. NASA had a live website and this guy actually discussed my theory of the Lander contaminating Mars when it crashed ,with his colleagues. They agreed that bacteria may have survived inside the fuel tank even after sterilization. It was great for a layman to be able to interact with these guys. I envisioned a green brachiopod ring around the north pole of Mars. Then someone made a movie kind of like that.
I just started here, any info on this? I call it Claudia's Ring. Can u see it yet?
#17 Re: Human missions » Not enough optomists - hard to predict 25 years out » 2003-12-14 15:13:09
Hurry up! Mars is moving away at an ASTRONOMICAL rate! we have to do this thing now people, for humanity. 
#18 Re: Human missions » Not enough optomists - hard to predict 25 years out » 2003-12-14 15:07:16
Hi, my first post. My uneducated opinion:
1.A private, manned Mars landing mission is within our grasp.
2. We can only afford a one way mission.
3. Only one highly educated and experienced person can go.
4. This person will die on Mars after gathering data for the remainder of his/her life.
5. This expedition must be organized internationally and apart from the military industrial complex.
Any volunteers?
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