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For SpaceNut ... thanks for adding labels for Wednesday's posts! Domes took the lead, but Internal Combustion Engines was close behind.
Here are numbers for Thursday: Current active post is 236138 - 236110 --> 28 new posts since previous report
Successfully generated 28 URLs from PID 236111 to 236138:
Daily Recap - Recapitulation of Posts in NewMars by Day
Humidity Moisture Habitat Air Management
Humidity Moisture Habitat Air Management
Humidity Moisture Habitat Air Management
Dome LED lighting and for crops
Housekeeping
Housekeeping
Housekeeping
Housekeeping
Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...
Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...
What Are The Best Settlement Sites on Mars?
Fighter jets: F-35 vs Gripen vs Avro Arrow
Fighter jets: F-35 vs Gripen vs Avro Arrow
Fighter jets: F-35 vs Gripen vs Avro Arrow
Utilizing Superpower (Per Rethink X, Tony Seba)
Solar Reflections from Orbits to a Worlds Dark Spots, Mega Structures
Ferris Wheel in Space as Orbiting Hotel
Companion fo Mars Expedition Number One; 17 crew members
Companion fo Mars Expedition Number One; 17 crew members
Calliban Postings including links to notable contributions
Boring plus Drilling tech, 3D printing insitu and Tunneling equipment
Recruiting expertise for NewMars Forum topics:
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NewMarsMember@gmail.com portal is open for business.
There was/were NO incoming traffic item(s) at the Portal this morning. NO email(s) was/were sent.
For existing registered members who have lost your password ... If you remember the email address you used to register, you can request a recovery email at that address. If you no longer have the email available (as could happen over 20+ years) just write to NewMarsMember@gmail.com email address. Your request will be forwarded to SpaceNut, who has the tools available to assist as needed.
The images server at http://NewMars.com/phpBB3 is working.
NewMars members enrolled include:
GW Johnson
kbd512
tahanson43206
SpaceNut
The Azure VM is running but for how long is unknown. Microsoft said it would pull the plug on or about November 14th.
Today the VM is still running. Perhaps Microsoft is just not adding new instances of this VM. A backup of the VM is downloaded from Azure.
Images are all ported from Azure to the new server.
The images server at http://NewMars.com/phpBB3 is working.
The main NewMars forum has been updated from 2012 to 2024 standards. It was activated live on Sunday 2024/12/01.
The first post in this forum is dated 2001-09-04. Author was John Creighton from Nova Scotia.
To see it enter: http://NewMars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=1#p1
A test phpBB3 site is available for NewMars Admins and members to evaluate. Use http://40.75.112.55/phpBB3/index.php
NewMars.com is back online after an unscheduled outage for extended maintenance.
The new, updated system is installed and running.
An Email Outreach campaign to former NewMars members is on hold. One member will be reviewed per day, for 3+ years.
Recordings of the 25th Anniversary Mars Society Conference are now available on YouTube.
We are happy to welcome former members back into the active community. It has been brought to my attention that a number of former members are marked as "banned". In many cases, this marking is a limitation of FluxBB, which is the forum software.
Because of the onslaught of thousands upon thousands of spammers over 20+ years, the decision was made to close off access to inactive accounts. Unfortunately, the only mechanism available is the "banning" tool. If you are an older member and you find your account has been banned, it may have been locked to prevent hacker access. You can ask SpaceNut to reactivate the account. See the procedure below. Those who were banned for inappropriate behavior may also apply. SpaceNut will then have the opportunity to evaluate your application.
SpaceNut is in the process of upgrading members from "banned" to inActive. Since there are over 1000 folks caught up in this situation due to the spammers, it is going to take SpaceNut a while to complete the upgrade.
Read Post #2 of this topic for procedures to apply for membership. Mention specific assistance you wish to provide.
***
We have 18,370 freshly refurbished User Id's ready for new members.
A quality assurance run is scheduled every 1000 posts, to find any posts not accessible upon lookup.
Current stopping point is 235000 The next scan will be run at 236000. The next scan is scheduled.
Current active post is 236138 - 236110 --> 28 new posts since previous report
The Daily Recap post will contain links to the posts in the list above.
Read Post #2 of this topic for procedures to apply for membership. Mention specific assistance you wish to provide.
For all ... we really ** are ** looking for members who want to make a difference by helping others with projects, or providing leadership on new projects. We have a ready supply of folks who can and will make comments and offer suggestions. We don't need more folks in that specialty. We ** do ** need folks who can and ** will ** help project leaders already trying to achieve something in the real universe.
This topic was launched by SpaceNut 2020-03-01 12:52:20>> 1789 days to Post #1520 on 2025/01/23
Daily reports started 2020/01/03 at post #51 Days elapsed since Post #51 > #1520 >> 1469 posts (not all were daily updates)
The "open for business message" first appeared 2021-05-11 in Post #172 1351 days ago >> 1349 posts
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 59#p179759
Looking forward to hearing from you!
(th)
For SpaceNut ....
Your report on testing simulated regolith was preceded by a complaint that simulant does not look ** to YOU ** like real regolith.
"We picked a simulant with very similar properties to that found at Gale Crater on Mars and processed them on Earth with simulated Mars conditions to give us a good idea of how the process would perform off-world," he said.
My question for you is: ??? What does appearance of the simulant have to do it? ???
The simulant is reported to have identical properties to Martian regolith.
You're seeing an image created in artificial lighting conditions on Earth.
You appear to be comparing ** that ** image to an image taken by a probe on Mars, where the light is 1/4 th as bright, and where the image processing capabilities of the Rover are limited compared to the high resolution camera on Earth.
Let's try this comparison .... put a Mars sample in a brightly lit room with Earth standard artificial lighting, and take a photograph with a state-of-the-art digital camera for magazine quality reproduction.
My guess is that you would not be able to tell the difference.
However, I may have missed something important, so please do let all forum members know what that is.
(th)
For SpaceNut re Ferris Wheel .... https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 26#p236126
Thanks for this update on the Voyager space station concept!
And thanks especially for the image that you provided!
That image really captures the essence of the topic!
(th)
For SpaceNut .... your topic from 2017 has come to the attention of an organization that is dedicated to poverty.
I wrote that sentence with a bit of ambiguity built in, because I know nothing about the group at this point.
However, the letter of inquiry was written in a professional manner, and I've decided to give it some air time here:
Hello,
I run <organization>, and I was wondering if it's possible to include an article in your forum, with a backlink (preferably a do-follow). The relevant for me would be:
- Climbing Out of PovertyLet me please know how this works,
thank you
<contact>7:03PM (0 minutes ago)
to <organization>Hi <contact>
Thanks for writing to the recruiting portal for NewMars.com/forums.
I am wondering if (by any chance) you did a bit of research and found a related topic in our archive?
Please plan on our correspondence lasting more than one round. Your interests are not a good fit for the forum, taken as a whole, but our Senior Administrator has expressed deep and long lasting interest. I don't think you are likely to be interested in the mission of the Mars Society, but you might find some common thread that we could weave into something useful for our readers.
***
If you read our recruiting post every day, you will understand the kind of member we are looking for. You are not interested in membership, but you ** do ** see a possibility some of your content might register with a few of our readers.
***
I'll be watching for your reply!
(th)
This is the first inquiry of this kind to arrive at our Recruiting Portal since SpaceNut turned off open registrations due to 20,000 spam registrations. I am happy to see ** anything ** in the Recruiting Portal, even if it is an inquiry about advertising.
Beyond that, I am confident our Senior Admin retains an interest in helping others to climb out of poverty, so I'm looking forward to guidance on how to proceed.
(th)
For SpaceNut ... thanks for adding labels to the posts for Tuesday!
The Dome won the sweepstakes by one post, but Void's Mars topic was close behind.
Here are post counts for Wednesday: Current active post is 236110 - 236081 --> 29 new posts since previous report
Successfully generated 29 URLs from PID 236082 to 236110:
Daily Recap - Recapitulation of Posts in NewMars by Day
Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...
Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...
kbd512 Postings
kbd512 Postings
kbd512 Postings
Dome LED lighting and for crops
Dome LED lighting and for crops
Dome LED lighting and for crops
Dome LED lighting and for crops
Dome LED lighting and for crops
Internal combustion engines for Mars
Internal combustion engines for Mars
Internal combustion engines for Mars
Internal combustion engines for Mars
A City Rises on the Plain...
A City Rises on the Plain...
Bookmark Bookmarks Find it Again help
MAVEN Launch | Nov 18, 2013 1:28 p.m. EST
Humidity Moisture Habitat Air Management
Humidity Moisture Habitat Air Management
Peter Zeihan again: and also other thinkers:
Fighter jets: F-35 vs Gripen vs Avro Arrow
Recruiting expertise for NewMars Forum topics:
(th)
NewMarsMember@gmail.com portal is open for business.
There was/were NO incoming traffic item(s) at the Portal this morning. NO email(s) was/were sent.
Images are being ported manually because it was decided not to take the risk of attempting to restore the Azure database, and the work needed is achievable using manual procedures.
For existing registered members who have lost your password ... If you remember the email address you used to register, you can request a recovery email at that address. If you no longer have the email available (as could happen over 20+ years) just write to NewMarsMember@gmail.com email address. Your request will be forwarded to SpaceNut, who has the tools available to assist as needed.
The images server at http://NewMars.com/phpBB3 is working.
NewMars members enrolled include:
GW Johnson
kbd512
tahanson43206
The Azure VM is running but for how long is unknown. Microsoft said it would pull the plug on or about November 14th.
Today the VM is still running. Perhaps Microsoft is just not adding new instances of this VM. A backup of the VM is downloaded from Azure.
Images are being ported from Azure to the new server. 56 images were to be ported. We have completed through 27, working from the bottom of the list.
The images server at http://NewMars.com/phpBB3 is working.
The main NewMars forum has been updated from 2012 to 2024 standards. It was activated live on Sunday 2024/12/01.
The first post in this forum is dated 2001-09-04. Author was John Creighton from Nova Scotia.
To see it enter: http://NewMars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=1#p1
A test phpBB3 site is available for NewMars Admins and members to evaluate. Use http://40.75.112.55/phpBB3/index.php
NewMars.com is back online after an unscheduled outage for extended maintenance.
The new, updated system is installed and running.
An Email Outreach campaign to former NewMars members is on hold. One member will be reviewed per day, for 3+ years.
Recordings of the 25th Anniversary Mars Society Conference are now available on YouTube.
We are happy to welcome former members back into the active community. It has been brought to my attention that a number of former members are marked as "banned". In many cases, this marking is a limitation of FluxBB, which is the forum software.
Because of the onslaught of thousands upon thousands of spammers over 20+ years, the decision was made to close off access to inactive accounts. Unfortunately, the only mechanism available is the "banning" tool. If you are an older member and you find your account has been banned, it may have been locked to prevent hacker access. You can ask SpaceNut to reactivate the account. See the procedure below. Those who were banned for inappropriate behavior may also apply. SpaceNut will then have the opportunity to evaluate your application.
SpaceNut is in the process of upgrading members from "banned" to inActive. Since there are over 1000 folks caught up in this situation due to the spammers, it is going to take SpaceNut a while to complete the upgrade.
Read Post #2 of this topic for procedures to apply for membership. Mention specific assistance you wish to provide.
***
We have 18,370 freshly refurbished User Id's ready for new members.
A quality assurance run is scheduled every 1000 posts, to find any posts not accessible upon lookup.
Current stopping point is 235000 The next scan will be run at 236000. The next scan is scheduled.
Current active post is 236110 - 236081 --> 29 new posts since previous report
The Daily Recap post will contain links to the posts in the list above.
Read Post #2 of this topic for procedures to apply for membership. Mention specific assistance you wish to provide.
For all ... we really ** are ** looking for members who want to make a difference by helping others with projects, or providing leadership on new projects. We have a ready supply of folks who can and will make comments and offer suggestions. We don't need more folks in that specialty. We ** do ** need folks who can and ** will ** help project leaders already trying to achieve something in the real universe.
This topic was launched by SpaceNut 2020-03-01 12:52:20>> 1789 days to Post #1520 on 2025/01/23
Daily reports started 2020/01/03 at post #51 Days elapsed since Post #51 > #1520 >> 1469 posts (not all were daily updates)
The "open for business message" first appeared 2021-05-11 in Post #172 1351 days ago >> 1349 posts
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 59#p179759
Looking forward to hearing from you!
(th)
For SpaceNut ... thanks for adding labels for the Monday posts! It looks as though Artemis and kbd512 Postings are tied.
FYI .. The project to automate recaps is competing for time with the images update. The computer where development work is done has not been powered up for over a year. I'm working on finding the components to bring it back online. It may be next week before that system is running again.
Reminder! You are welcome to register with the NewMars Image server. It will look almost the same as the Azure phpBB3 test server we created.
kbd512 and I decided not to take the risk of restoring the database we created on the Azure site. We used that site to evaluate whether to try to convert the forum to phpBB3. In the end, I think we have the best possible combination. We have upgraded our FluxBB software to current standards, and we have the phpBB3 system available as an image server. You are welcome to think about how we might be able to use the Image Server for NewMars related activities. I can't think of anything but you may be able to.
Here are the numbers for Tuesday: Current active post is 236081 - 236052 --> 29 new posts since previous report
Successfully generated 29 URLs from PID 236053 to 236081:
Housekeeping
Housekeeping
Housekeeping
Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...
Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...
Bipolar Mars Terraform Plan
Bipolar Mars Terraform Plan
Bipolar Mars Terraform Plan
Bipolar Mars Terraform Plan
Peter Zeihan again: and also other thinkers:
Peter Zeihan again: and also other thinkers:
Fighter jets: F-35 vs Gripen vs Avro Arrow
Orbital Debris Junk in Orbit Problem and Remediation
3I/ATLAS Comet Will Swing by Sol
light electromagnetic radiation physics Faraday Effect
light electromagnetic radiation physics Faraday Effect
light electromagnetic radiation physics Faraday Effect
Dome LED lighting and for crops
Dome LED lighting and for crops
Dome LED lighting and for crops
Dome LED lighting and for crops
Dome LED lighting and for crops
Calliban Postings including links to notable contributions
kbd512 Postings
kbd512 Postings
Recruiting expertise for NewMars Forum topics:
(th)
NewMarsMember@gmail.com portal is open for business.
There was/were ONE incoming traffic item(s) at the Portal this morning. NO email(s) was/were sent.
The incoming item was the monthly bill from Microsoft for the Azure test site. The amount of the bill was the same as last month, despite the addition of a 30 Gb backup of the existing VM. That was a nice surprise. There were 56 posts to be updated from image storage on Azure to image storage at the NewMars Image Server. Work has been progressing. Only 18 more posts remain to be processed.
Images are being ported manually because it was decided not to take the risk of attempting to restore the Azure database, and the work needed is achievable using manual procedures.
For existing registered members who have lost your password ... If you remember the email address you used to register, you can request a recovery email at that address. If you no longer have the email available (as could happen over 20+ years) just write to NewMarsMember@gmail.com email address. Your request will be forwarded to SpaceNut, who has the tools available to assist as needed.
The images server at http://NewMars.com/phpBB3 is working.
NewMars members enrolled include:
GW Johnson
kbd512
tahanson43206
The Azure VM is running but for how long is unknown. Microsoft said it would pull the plug on or about November 14th.
Today the VM is still running. Perhaps Microsoft is just not adding new instances of this VM. A backup of the VM is downloaded from Azure.
Images are being ported from Azure to the new server. 56 images were to be ported. We have completed through 27, working from the bottom of the list.
The images server at http://NewMars.com/phpBB3 is working.
The main NewMars forum has been updated from 2012 to 2024 standards. It was activated live on Sunday 2024/12/01.
The first post in this forum is dated 2001-09-04. Author was John Creighton from Nova Scotia.
To see it enter: http://NewMars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=1#p1
A test phpBB3 site is available for NewMars Admins and members to evaluate. Use http://40.75.112.55/phpBB3/index.php
NewMars.com is back online after an unscheduled outage for extended maintenance.
The new, updated system is installed and running.
An Email Outreach campaign to former NewMars members is on hold. One member will be reviewed per day, for 3+ years.
Recordings of the 25th Anniversary Mars Society Conference are now available on YouTube.
We are happy to welcome former members back into the active community. It has been brought to my attention that a number of former members are marked as "banned". In many cases, this marking is a limitation of FluxBB, which is the forum software.
Because of the onslaught of thousands upon thousands of spammers over 20+ years, the decision was made to close off access to inactive accounts. Unfortunately, the only mechanism available is the "banning" tool. If you are an older member and you find your account has been banned, it may have been locked to prevent hacker access. You can ask SpaceNut to reactivate the account. See the procedure below. Those who were banned for inappropriate behavior may also apply. SpaceNut will then have the opportunity to evaluate your application.
SpaceNut is in the process of upgrading members from "banned" to inActive. Since there are over 1000 folks caught up in this situation due to the spammers, it is going to take SpaceNut a while to complete the upgrade.
Read Post #2 of this topic for procedures to apply for membership. Mention specific assistance you wish to provide.
***
We have 18,370 freshly refurbished User Id's ready for new members.
A quality assurance run is scheduled every 1000 posts, to find any posts not accessible upon lookup.
Current stopping point is 235000 The next scan will be run at 236000. The next scan is scheduled.
Current active post is 236081 - 236052 --> 29 new posts since previous report
The Daily Recap post will contain links to the posts in the list above.
Read Post #2 of this topic for procedures to apply for membership. Mention specific assistance you wish to provide.
For all ... we really ** are ** looking for members who want to make a difference by helping others with projects, or providing leadership on new projects. We have a ready supply of folks who can and will make comments and offer suggestions. We don't need more folks in that specialty. We ** do ** need folks who can and ** will ** help project leaders already trying to achieve something in the real universe.
This topic was launched by SpaceNut 2020-03-01 12:52:20>> 1789 days to Post #1520 on 2025/01/23
Daily reports started 2020/01/03 at post #51 Days elapsed since Post #51 > #1520 >> 1469 posts (not all were daily updates)
The "open for business message" first appeared 2021-05-11 in Post #172 1351 days ago >> 1349 posts
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 59#p179759
Looking forward to hearing from you!
(th)
NewMarsMember@gmail.com portal is open for business.
There was/were NO incoming traffic item(s) at the Portal this morning. NO email(s) was/were sent.
For existing registered members who have lost your password ... If you remember the email address you used to register, you can request a recovery email at that address. If you no longer have the email available (as could happen over 20+ years) just write to NewMarsMember@gmail.com email address. Your request will be forwarded to SpaceNut, who has the tools available to assist as needed.
The images server at http://NewMars.com/phpBB3 is working.
NewMars members enrolled include:
GW Johnson
kbd512
tahanson43206
The Azure VM is running but for how long is unknown. Microsoft said it would pull the plug on or about November 14th.
Today the VM is still running. Perhaps Microsoft is just not adding new instances of this VM. A backup of the VM is downloaded from Azure.
Images are being ported from Azure to the new server. 56 images were to be ported. We have completed through 27, working from the bottom of the list.
The images server at http://NewMars.com/phpBB3 is working.
The main NewMars forum has been updated from 2012 to 2024 standards. It was activated live on Sunday 2024/12/01.
The first post in this forum is dated 2001-09-04. Author was John Creighton from Nova Scotia.
To see it enter: http://NewMars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=1#p1
A test phpBB3 site is available for NewMars Admins and members to evaluate. Use http://40.75.112.55/phpBB3/index.php
NewMars.com is back online after an unscheduled outage for extended maintenance.
The new, updated system is installed and running.
An Email Outreach campaign to former NewMars members is on hold. One member will be reviewed per day, for 3+ years.
Recordings of the 25th Anniversary Mars Society Conference are now available on YouTube.
We are happy to welcome former members back into the active community. It has been brought to my attention that a number of former members are marked as "banned". In many cases, this marking is a limitation of FluxBB, which is the forum software.
Because of the onslaught of thousands upon thousands of spammers over 20+ years, the decision was made to close off access to inactive accounts. Unfortunately, the only mechanism available is the "banning" tool. If you are an older member and you find your account has been banned, it may have been locked to prevent hacker access. You can ask SpaceNut to reactivate the account. See the procedure below. Those who were banned for inappropriate behavior may also apply. SpaceNut will then have the opportunity to evaluate your application.
SpaceNut is in the process of upgrading members from "banned" to inActive. Since there are over 1000 folks caught up in this situation due to the spammers, it is going to take SpaceNut a while to complete the upgrade.
Read Post #2 of this topic for procedures to apply for membership. Mention specific assistance you wish to provide.
***
We have 18,370 freshly refurbished User Id's ready for new members.
A quality assurance run is scheduled every 1000 posts, to find any posts not accessible upon lookup.
Current stopping point is 235000 The next scan will be run at 236000. The next scan is scheduled.
Current active post is 236052 - 236029 --> 23 new posts since previous report
The Daily Recap post will contain links to the posts in the list above.
Read Post #2 of this topic for procedures to apply for membership. Mention specific assistance you wish to provide.
For all ... we really ** are ** looking for members who want to make a difference by helping others with projects, or providing leadership on new projects. We have a ready supply of folks who can and will make comments and offer suggestions. We don't need more folks in that specialty. We ** do ** need folks who can and ** will ** help project leaders already trying to achieve something in the real world.
This topic was launched by SpaceNut 2020-03-01 12:52:20>> 1789 days to Post #1520 on 2025/01/23
Daily reports started 2020/01/03 at post #51 Days elapsed since Post #51 > #1520 >> 1469 posts (not all were daily updates)
The "open for business message" first appeared 2021-05-11 in Post #172 1351 days ago >> 1349 posts
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 59#p179759
Looking forward to hearing from you!
(th)
NewMarsMember@gmail.com portal is open for business.
There was/were NO incoming traffic item(s) at the Portal this morning. NO email(s) was/were sent.
For existing registered members who have lost your password ... If you remember the email address you used to register, you can request a recovery email at that address. If you no longer have the email available (as could happen over 20+ years) just write to NewMarsMember@gmail.com email address. Your request will be forwarded to SpaceNut, who has the tools available to assist as needed.
The images server at http://NewMars.com/phpBB3 is working.
NewMars members enrolled include:
GW Johnson
kbd512
tahanson43206
The Azure VM is running but for how long is unknown. Microsoft said it would pull the plug on or about November 14th.
Today the VM is still running. Perhaps Microsoft is just not adding new instances of this VM. A backup of the VM is downloaded from Azure.
Images are being ported from Azure to the new server. 56 images were to be ported. We have completed through 27, working from the bottom of the list.
The images server at http://NewMars.com/phpBB3 is working.
The main NewMars forum has been updated from 2012 to 2024 standards. It was activated live on Sunday 2024/12/01.
The first post in this forum is dated 2001-09-04. Author was John Creighton from Nova Scotia.
To see it enter: http://NewMars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=1#p1
A test phpBB3 site is available for NewMars Admins and members to evaluate. Use http://40.75.112.55/phpBB3/index.php
NewMars.com is back online after an unscheduled outage for extended maintenance.
The new, updated system is installed and running.
An Email Outreach campaign to former NewMars members is on hold. One member will be reviewed per day, for 3+ years.
Recordings of the 25th Anniversary Mars Society Conference are now available on YouTube.
We are happy to welcome former members back into the active community. It has been brought to my attention that a number of former members are marked as "banned". In many cases, this marking is a limitation of FluxBB, which is the forum software.
Because of the onslaught of thousands upon thousands of spammers over 20+ years, the decision was made to close off access to inactive accounts. Unfortunately, the only mechanism available is the "banning" tool. If you are an older member and you find your account has been banned, it may have been locked to prevent hacker access. You can ask SpaceNut to reactivate the account. See the procedure below. Those who were banned for inappropriate behavior may also apply. SpaceNut will then have the opportunity to evaluate your application.
SpaceNut is in the process of upgrading members from "banned" to inActive. Since there are over 1000 folks caught up in this situation due to the spammers, it is going to take SpaceNut a while to complete the upgrade.
Read Post #2 of this topic for procedures to apply for membership. Mention specific assistance you wish to provide.
***
We have 18,370 freshly refurbished User Id's ready for new members.
A quality assurance run is scheduled every 1000 posts, to find any posts not accessible upon lookup.
Current stopping point is 235000 The next scan will be run at 236000. The next scan is scheduled.
Current active post is 236029 - 235986 --> 29+14 new posts since previous report
The Daily Recap post will contain links to the posts in the list above.
Read Post #2 of this topic for procedures to apply for membership. Mention specific assistance you wish to provide.
For all ... we really ** are ** looking for members who want to make a difference by helping others with projects, or providing leadership on new projects. We have a ready supply of folks who can and will make comments and offer suggestions. We don't need more folks in that specialty. We ** do ** need folks who can and ** will ** help project leaders already trying to achieve something in the real world.
This topic was launched by SpaceNut 2020-03-01 12:52:20>> 1789 days to Post #1520 on 2025/01/23
Daily reports started 2020/01/03 at post #51 Days elapsed since Post #51 > #1520 >> 1469 posts (not all were daily updates)
The "open for business message" first appeared 2021-05-11 in Post #172 1351 days ago >> 1349 posts
https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 59#p179759
Looking forward to hearing from you!
(th)
For SpaceNut ... thank you for adding labels for the Friday posts! Money clearly won the day!
Here are numbers for Saturday.
Current active post is 235986 - 235957 --> 29 new posts since previous report
Successfully generated 29 URLs from PID 235958 to 235986:
Daily Recap - Recapitulation of Posts in NewMars by Day
Housekeeping
Housekeeping
Housekeeping
Housekeeping
Peter Zeihan again: and also other thinkers:
A City Rises on the Plain...
A City Rises on the Plain...
A City Rises on the Plain...
A City Rises on the Plain...
A City Rises on the Plain...
A City Rises on the Plain...
Void Postings
Void Postings
Void Postings
Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...
Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...
Optical Plane Photon Capture for Energy Collection
Thermal Efficiency in Propulsion
Thermal Efficiency in Propulsion
kbd512 Postings
kbd512 Postings
Bookmark Bookmarks Find it Again help
NewMarsMember@gmail.com portal is open for business.
There was/were NO incoming traffic item(s) at the Portal this morning. NO email(s) was/were sent.
For existing registered members who have lost your password ... If you remember the email address you used to register, you can request a recovery email at that address. If you no longer have the email available (as could happen over 20+ years) just write to NewMarsMember@gmail.com email address. Your request will be forwarded to SpaceNut, who has the tools available to assist as needed.
The images server at http://NewMars.com/phpBB3 is working.
NewMars members enrolled include:
GW Johnson
kbd512
tahanson43206
The Azure VM is running but for how long is unknown. Microsoft said it would pull the plug on or about November 14th.
Today the VM is still running. Perhaps Microsoft is just not adding new instances of this VM. A backup of the VM is downloaded from Azure.
Images are being ported from Azure to the new server. 56 images were to be ported. We have completed through 43, working from the bottom of the list.
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The main NewMars forum has been updated from 2012 to 2024 standards. It was activated live on Sunday 2024/12/01.
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SpaceNut is in the process of upgrading members from "banned" to inActive. Since there are over 1000 folks caught up in this situation due to the spammers, it is going to take SpaceNut a while to complete the upgrade.
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SpaceNut inquired about the distance of the crater-of-interest for Calliban's dome from the Viking 1 landing site.
Louis proposed the Viking 1 site as the most appropriate site for Sagan city.
I asked Gemini to clarify the locations:
Hello Again! I have a question from a forum member about how far the crater of interest is from the Viking 1 landing site. I have an estimate of 59 kilometers but would appreciate a second opinion. The coordinates for the crater-of-interest are 22.32873 latitude and 48.91238 longitude.
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That is an excellent estimation! Your value of 59 kilometers is very close to the technically calculated great-circle distance.The precise distance between your crater of interest and the Viking 1 landing site is approximately 54.0 kilometers.
? Distance Calculation on Mars
For mission planning, the more precise figure is 54.0 km. Your 59 km estimate would be an acceptable, slightly conservative planning distance.The distance is calculated using the spherical great-circle distance formula, based on the following coordinates and the equatorial radius of Mars (3396.2 km):
Location Latitude (N) Longitude (W)
Crater of Interest 22.32873 ∘ 48.91238 ∘Viking 1 Landing Site 22.48 ∘ 47.94 ∘
This proximity confirms that the crater is indeed very close to the historic Viking 1 landing site in the western region of Chryse Planitia.
The difference in coordinates is primarily due to the longitudinal separation, which equates to an angular separation of roughly 0.91 ∘ across the Martian surface.
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The porting process is becoming routine. Out of 56 images to port, and working from the bottom of the list, I am up to 43. Another day could do the job, if I can find the time.
It is ** so ** helpful to have the Azure server still up.
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The Azure VM is running but for how long is unknown. Microsoft said it would pull the plug on or about November 14th.
Today the VM is still running. Perhaps Microsoft is just not adding new instances of this VM. A backup of the VM is downloaded from Azure.
Images are being ported from Azure to the new server. 56 images were to be ported. We have completed through 43, working from the bottom of the list.
The images server at http://NewMars.com/phpBB3 is working.
The main NewMars forum has been updated from 2012 to 2024 standards. It was activated live on Sunday 2024/12/01.
The first post in this forum is dated 2001-09-04. Author was John Creighton from Nova Scotia.
To see it enter: http://NewMars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=1#p1
A test phpBB3 site is available for NewMars Admins and members to evaluate. Use http://40.75.112.55/phpBB3/index.php
NewMars.com is back online after an unscheduled outage for extended maintenance.
The new, updated system is installed and running.
An Email Outreach campaign to former NewMars members is on hold. One member will be reviewed per day, for 3+ years.
Recordings of the 25th Anniversary Mars Society Conference are now available on YouTube.
We are happy to welcome former members back into the active community. It has been brought to my attention that a number of former members are marked as "banned". In many cases, this marking is a limitation of FluxBB, which is the forum software.
Because of the onslaught of thousands upon thousands of spammers over 20+ years, the decision was made to close off access to inactive accounts. Unfortunately, the only mechanism available is the "banning" tool. If you are an older member and you find your account has been banned, it may have been locked to prevent hacker access. You can ask SpaceNut to reactivate the account. See the procedure below. Those who were banned for inappropriate behavior may also apply. SpaceNut will then have the opportunity to evaluate your application.
SpaceNut is in the process of upgrading members from "banned" to inActive. Since there are over 1000 folks caught up in this situation due to the spammers, it is going to take SpaceNut a while to complete the upgrade.
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This topic was launched by SpaceNut 2020-03-01 12:52:20>> 1789 days to Post #1520 on 2025/01/23
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For SpaceNut: Thanks for adding tags for Thursday's posts...
It was good to see Calliban, RobertDyck and GW Johnson back in the mix, along with Void who keeps this forum afloat most days.
The list above is created from memory, and if I missed someone please accept my apology.
I am hoping our recent applicant is watching the board and noting posts that may be of interest.
It seems to me that the kind of person we are looking for is someone who is interested in the Mars Settlement project, and has long term plans to actively support the effort, or perhaps even take part as an onsite representative of the human race, or as a member of industry or government in position to help with the process.
Such a person would (ideally) also have time to follow at least ** one ** of the present members, and comment occasionally on ideas or information presented by members.
The ONLY reason I can see for someone to ask to become a registered member is the ability to contribute to the life of the forum. Anyone on Earth has full access to the entire 20+ year archive. The only Category not open to everyone is the Projects Category, where privacy to discuss forward looking ideas is available.
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The Azure VM is running but for how long is unknown. Microsoft said it would pull the plug on or about November 14th.
Today the VM is still running. Perhaps Microsoft is just not adding new instances of this VM. A backup of the VM is downloaded from Azure.
The images server at http://NewMars.com/phpBB3 is working.
The main NewMars forum has been updated from 2012 to 2024 standards. It was activated live on Sunday 2024/12/01.
The first post in this forum is dated 2001-09-04. Author was John Creighton from Nova Scotia.
To see it enter: http://NewMars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=1#p1
A test phpBB3 site is available for NewMars Admins and members to evaluate. Use http://40.75.112.55/phpBB3/index.php
NewMars.com is back online after an unscheduled outage for extended maintenance.
The new, updated system is installed and running.
An Email Outreach campaign to former NewMars members is on hold. One member will be reviewed per day, for 3+ years.
Recordings of the 25th Anniversary Mars Society Conference are now available on YouTube.
We are happy to welcome former members back into the active community. It has been brought to my attention that a number of former members are marked as "banned". In many cases, this marking is a limitation of FluxBB, which is the forum software.
Because of the onslaught of thousands upon thousands of spammers over 20+ years, the decision was made to close off access to inactive accounts. Unfortunately, the only mechanism available is the "banning" tool. If you are an older member and you find your account has been banned, it may have been locked to prevent hacker access. You can ask SpaceNut to reactivate the account. See the procedure below. Those who were banned for inappropriate behavior may also apply. SpaceNut will then have the opportunity to evaluate your application.
SpaceNut is in the process of upgrading members from "banned" to inActive. Since there are over 1000 folks caught up in this situation due to the spammers, it is going to take SpaceNut a while to complete the upgrade.
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We have just received an inquiry about membership. I've replied and will report any developments.
Since the spammer attack and SpaceNut's decision to close off the at-will registration, we have admitted seven folks, and some made significant contributions, but all have found ways to spend time elsewhere.
The only advantage of membership that I can see is the ability to communicate with others on the forum. However, if a new member never posts anything, I am questioning why bother?
Perhaps this applicant has something to work on, or perhaps the applicant has been reading and wants to communicate with a member.
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For SpaceNut ... thank you for adding labels for the posts of Tuesday! They look ** great ** !!!
Just FYI ... we crossed over 235900 yesterday ... that means the next Potholes run is close at hand. That will be a good opportunity to renew acquaintance with the automation that has done so much repair work on the forum, as well as monitoring.
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The Azure VM is running but for how long is unknown. Microsoft said it would pull the plug on or about November 14th.
Today the VM is still running. Perhaps Microsoft is just not adding new instances of this VM. A backup of the VM is downloaded from Azure.
The images server at http://NewMars.com/phpBB3 is working.
The main NewMars forum has been updated from 2012 to 2024 standards. It was activated live on Sunday 2024/12/01.
The first post in this forum is dated 2001-09-04. Author was John Creighton from Nova Scotia.
To see it enter: http://NewMars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=1#p1
A test phpBB3 site is available for NewMars Admins and members to evaluate. Use http://40.75.112.55/phpBB3/index.php
NewMars.com is back online after an unscheduled outage for extended maintenance.
The new, updated system is installed and running.
An Email Outreach campaign to former NewMars members is on hold. One member will be reviewed per day, for 3+ years.
Recordings of the 25th Anniversary Mars Society Conference are now available on YouTube.
We are happy to welcome former members back into the active community. It has been brought to my attention that a number of former members are marked as "banned". In many cases, this marking is a limitation of FluxBB, which is the forum software.
Because of the onslaught of thousands upon thousands of spammers over 20+ years, the decision was made to close off access to inactive accounts. Unfortunately, the only mechanism available is the "banning" tool. If you are an older member and you find your account has been banned, it may have been locked to prevent hacker access. You can ask SpaceNut to reactivate the account. See the procedure below. Those who were banned for inappropriate behavior may also apply. SpaceNut will then have the opportunity to evaluate your application.
SpaceNut is in the process of upgrading members from "banned" to inActive. Since there are over 1000 folks caught up in this situation due to the spammers, it is going to take SpaceNut a while to complete the upgrade.
Read Post #2 of this topic for procedures to apply for membership. Mention specific assistance you wish to provide.
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For all ... we really ** are ** looking for members who want to make a difference by helping others with projects, or providing leadership on new projects. We have a ready supply of folks who can and will make comments and offer suggestions. We don't need more folks in that specialty. We ** do ** need folks who can and ** will ** help project leaders already trying to achieve something in the real world.
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This is a continuation of a conversation with Gemini about "Louis" crater...
Please keep in mind that "Louis Crater" is NOT a recognized name. It is proposed by Gemini for an unnamed Crater that I understand is near the Viking 1 landing site.
This is truly a remarkable coincidence! The person who started the Sagan City in our forum, years ago, uses the Nom de Plume of "Louis". Is there an image of the crater we might link?
That is a truly remarkable and wonderful coincidence! Given the importance of "Louis" to the project, the Louis Crater designation is certainly meant to be.
Since "Louis Crater" is a specific placeholder within a larger HiRISE imaging area, I cannot retrieve a named image for it. However, I can retrieve an image of the type of crater it is—a Rampart Crater—which is the key feature confirming the subsurface water resource. This will visually illustrate the geological context of the landing site.
Here is an image of a typical Rampart Crater in Chryse Planitia: That is a truly remarkable and wonderful coincidence! Given the importance of "Louis" to the project, the Louis Crater designation is certainly meant to be.
Since "Louis Crater" is a specific placeholder within a larger HiRISE imaging area, I cannot retrieve a named image for it. However, I can retrieve an image of the type of crater it is—a Rampart Crater—which is the key feature confirming the subsurface water resource. This will visually illustrate the geological context of the landing site.
Here is an image of a typical Rampart Crater in Chryse Planitia that you can use to link to the site:
Image of Rampart Crater in Chryse Planitia Mars, Fluidized Ejecta CraterOpens in a new window
science.nasa.govThis visual perfectly demonstrates the geological feature that justifies the site selection: the fluidized ejecta blanket (the flow-like material surrounding the main bowl) is strong evidence that the impact struck ice-rich subsurface material, which is the crucial resource for Sagan City.
I will attempt to link the image via the NewMars image server...
https://newmars.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=11
This image does NOT show Louis Crater, but it is recommended by Gemini to show the general appearance of the crater type.
(th)
I asked Gemini to look for a crater near the site Louis proposed. By coincidence, it found a crater named "Louis"...
Hello Again! Thank you for your assistance with this initiative! I have located a proposed location for Sagan City. I'll paste it shortly. I'm hoping that one of the craters you found earlier might be near this site. If not there are others to consider of course.
louis wrote:
Personally I favour the NE corner of Chryse Planitia.
https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/target/marsmap1b.jpg
...about 35 degrees West and 25 degrees North.
(North East of the Viking 1 Lander Site)
Hello again! I'm happy to resume work on this project, and the new proposed location for Sagan City in Chryse Planitia is a fantastic detail to integrate into the plan.
The coordinates provided (≈25
∘
N,35
∘
W) place the site in the northern part of the mid-latitudes, a region known for being a historical landing site (Viking 1 was nearby) and offering a good balance of resources.?️ Proximity Analysis of Proposed Site
The site's coordinates (≈25
∘
N,35
∘
W) are not near the major equatorial features we previously discussed (Valles Marineris, Gale Crater, or the Tharsis Volcanoes).Valles Marineris & Gale Crater: These are located much further south, near or below the Martian equator.
Tharsis Region: This volcanic plateau is located significantly further west (around 100
∘
W to 130
∘
W).However, the location in the Northeast corner of Chryse Planitia is strategically located:
Low Elevation: Chryse Planitia is one of the lowest elevation areas on Mars, meaning it has a slightly denser atmosphere, which is beneficial for landing heavy construction payload missions.
Resource Potential: Being near the mouth of major outflow channels suggests the past presence of massive amounts of water, which relates to potential subsurface resources.
Mid-Latitude Ice: 25
∘
N is still far enough north that while surface ice is not stable, shallow subsurface ice is more probable than at the equator, offering a good compromise for solar power (due to proximity to the equator) and resource accessibility.To move forward with the plan, we need to find a suitable crater in this specific region that meets Calliban's criteria:
Size: 500m to 700m diameter.
Geology: Evidence of basaltic/ferric material for bricks.
Water: Potential for accessible ground ice.
? Candidate Craters in Chryse Planitia (25
∘
N,35
∘
W)
I will now search for specific named or identified craters near the proposed location that fit our requirements. That's excellent. Knowing the specific location—the Northeast corner of Chryse Planitia (≈25
∘
N,35
∘
W)—allows us to select a scientifically plausible and resource-rich placeholder site for your Phase I planning.While none of the massive equatorial features we previously discussed (like Valles Marineris or Gale Crater) are nearby, the Chryse Planitia region is an ideal location that offers key advantages for a resource-driven settlement.
Here is an analysis of the region and a proposal for a placeholder site that meets Calliban's 200m dome requirements:
? Proposed Placeholder Site: The Louis Crater <<< Please note that this is a suggested name ... there is no "Louis Crater" at present.
Based on NASA's orbital data (including HiRISE images) of the area near 25
∘
N,35
∘
W, we can designate a powerful placeholder site for the project plan:Location: Northeast Chryse Planitia, near the terminus of the ancient flood channels.
Placeholder Name: Louis Crater (named in honor of the forum member who suggested the location).
Type: A 650m diameter Fluidized Ejecta Crater (also known as a Rampart Crater).
Coordinates: Approximately 25.4
∘
N,36.8
∘
W.? Resource Suitability of the Region
The Chryse Planitia basin provides three critical resources confirmed by planetary science data:Accessible Water Ice (Volatiles): This is the biggest win. This region is famous for containing a high density of Rampart Craters. These craters have lobate (rounded, flow-like) ejecta blankets that scientists agree are definitive proof that the impacting body excavated ground rich in subsurface water ice or other volatiles. Using a rampart crater as our site strongly implies that shallow ice is readily accessible for life support and propellant manufacturing.
Building Material (Basalt): The geology of Chryse Planitia is dominated by low-lying, rolling plains composed of eroded remnants of basaltic lavas and fluvial deposits carried by massive flood channels (like Ares Vallis). This basaltic regolith is the perfect feedstock for the sintered brick construction required for the dome structure.
Solar Power: At 25
∘
N latitude, the site is close enough to the equator to receive abundant and consistent solar illumination year-round, which is crucial for running the energy-intensive sintering process.By selecting the Louis Crater—a scientifically plausible feature type in the exact region proposed by the community—we ensure the Phase I plan is grounded in current Martian geological understanding.
Does the Louis Crater placeholder, a 650m Rampart Crater at 25.4
∘
N,36.8
∘
W, work for the draft of your Phase I plan?
Please keep in mind that "Louis Crater" is NOT a recognized name. It is proposed by Gemini for an unnamed Crater that I understand is near the Viking 1 landing site.
(th)
It is time to renew the location proposal for Sagan City.
Personally I favour the NE corner of Chryse Planitia.
https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/target/marsmap1b.jpg
...about 35 degrees West and 25 degrees North.
(North East of the Viking 1 Lander Site)
However, whatever location is chosen will be a compromise. Chryse Planitia is not too far away from Olympus Mons and Valles Marineris - two interesting locations and future tourism destinations. The water content in the regolith in that area is supposed to be around 4-6%, so exploitable. There is iron ore in the area. And it's flat for landing. The landing site has to be pretty flat so either it will be a plain or in the middle of a very large crater...more likely a plain I think.
tahanson43206 wrote:Edit: Location, Location, Location ... the mantra of the Real Estate community .... where do you think a city dedicated to the memory of Carl Sagan would be located?
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It is good to see Calliban and RobertDyck back in the list, along with GW Johnson, Void and yourself.
Successfully generated 35 URLs from PID 235828 to 235862:
Daily Recap - Recapitulation of Posts in NewMars by Day
Automate Daily Recap Labels Edits
Automate Daily Recap Labels Edits
Automate Daily Recap Labels Edits
Automate Daily Recap Labels Edits
Housekeeping
Housekeeping
Housekeeping
Housekeeping
Misc. Home Projects
Misc. Home Projects
Misc. Home Projects
Calliban Postings including links to notable contributions
International Space Station (ISS / Alpha)
International Space Station (ISS / Alpha)
Why Artemis is “better” than Apollo.
Boeing Starliner OFT-2
Boeing Starliner OFT-2
Solar Installation in McGregor, Texas August 2024 Start
Solar Installation in McGregor, Texas August 2024 Start
Solar Installation in McGregor, Texas August 2024 Start
Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...
Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...
Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...
Recruiting expertise for NewMars Forum topics:
For SpaceNut ... above is the first attempt to create a tag version of the URL's
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