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Your welcome to explain why or how you are 'in between'. ???

I know I'm not a popular figure here, but just before I leave you all in peace to debate exactly how your going to colonise Mars, I've got a serious question for which I welcome both short and long answers (which will no doubt be either serious or  non-serious):

Do Mars Developers consider themselves visionary 'Extremists' (radical technophiles, say) or do you consider yourselves visionary 'Mainstreamists' (mainstream technophiles who merely plan to apply advanced technology to a new geographical site)?

Also, the same question should be asked with regards to your politics. How many of you consider yourselves mainstreamists (postulating a political economy on Mars roughly the same as what goes on today here on Earth) and how many of you consider yourselves radicals/extremists (postulating a radically different society on Mars)?

Also, again, how do you see you technological and political values fitting in with environmentalism? Are you a radical environmentalist or a mainstream environmentalist? Which kind, if any, of environmentalism do you ascribe?

Yeah-- I realise it all depends on your definition of radicalism/extremism/mainstreamism, but answer the question according to how you define these terms.

Thanks in advance.....

'Cause I didn't have the time! Duh!

This question has been answered elsewhere.

What a lame and transparent way to show you don't have any ideas to debate with! ???

It is generally agreed by microbiologists that bacteria and mould are just as liable to become ecologically extinct as other organisms but no body cares enough to study them

Well, that is except for a few intrepid environmental microbiologists measuring bacteria levels in polluted streams (where the changing populations, up for baddie bugs and down for goodie bugs, is making life miserable for other living things).

What a bunch of crap. Little space probes carrying bio-detection euipment are going to have all sorts of problems distinguishing the origin of life. (Especially since we have no non-Earth life to compare it with!). Sure we could sent human scientists there with Marslabs but that would just screw everything up by contaminating the place with potentially native-killing terrestrial bugs and manmade pollution.

As for your other points, I suggest you re-read the posting you were trying to criticise because it preempts the points (if you could call them that) you made!

Errr read all my other posts before you question the severity of my caution. I wager I'm the most cautious person on thew planet when it comes to Mars' protection.

Just because you say Mars is going to be disjunct from Earth society don't make it so. Mars is going to be set up, industrialised, settled, colonised, polluted upon, explored by the same geo-petroleum that search for minerals here in Siberia, Alaska and the rest of the world and by aeronautics companies that make warplanes, landmines, 767s and missiles. Mars aint going to be Mars--it's going to be a hellish Earth--and to keep costs down---yep Pizza Hut will be advertisng all over the rockets. It's gonna be gross man...do something else!

I wish I could go to a Mars Convention. I'm sure, just like science fiction conventions there's lots of weirdoes dressed up like wookies to laugh at!

You don't struggle with ideology, dear Josh, because you have your all nicely set in place--techno-imperialism seems a good name for it. Unfortunately for you, the only place you'll find these freako like-minded techno-imperialists is at the mars conventions--cause you'll never get there that's for sure!

Unfortunately, the only Americans who seem to leave Stateside are the ones dropping bombs on innocent wedding parties