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I apologise if my initial question was misunderstood, but all I am after are other view points on the matter, rather than just friends and colleagues.
My personal view is that there is no life on Mars at present.
But I still think we should start taking serious steps toward placing humans on Mars, beginning with self-contained environments. Our experiments are showing that the Lichen we are using can withstand short term tolerances to an artificial Mars atmosphere. Time will tell how long they can last before perishing.
Thank you again.
The Project Mars Association Ltd.
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I am interested in the different opinions that people have on the concept of introducing foreign life the surface of Mars.
If there is any life there, could it destroy that?
It would be done eventually any way, wouldn‘t it?
Would contained biospheres be more appropriate?
Is it right to change environments to suit our needs?
We don’t know the ramifications, so don’t do it.
Would you allow life to be brought here from Mars?
Similar questions or view points. I am not starting an argument as all are entitled to their view, so be nice.
Thank you.
The Project Mars Association Ltd.
http://projectmarsltd.org/home.html
As stated in this well written article Ingersoll says. Terraforming is a process to transform a planet so that it would resemble Earth and be suitable for supporting human life.
I agree with a lot on the article but do disagree with this small statement. For me terraforming is about making Mars habitable for life may it be large or small new or old.
There seems to be a lot of rush in the terraforming of Mars, why cant we live in biospheres for as long as it takes. You do not see people rushing to terraform the North Pole. I say stay there and study the plant as it stands while we slowly and naturally terraform the surface, it may be less costly, and we may find out more about Mars’s past states and easier ways of releasing all that locked up CO2.
And noosfractal I can not take credit for the web pages as one of my associates is placing the information on in his spare time. Thank you for your comments, any criticisms please let us know, as the web site is still very young.
We still have to wait for further details from Mars.
It is a slow process, there could be frozen liquid water on Mars.
They could be an illusion of the sand surface.
Or as recent information has shown there was or still is vast quantities of flowing sulfuric acid lakes.
Untill further studies are made we will just have to speculate.
The Elements that have been recorded leaving are the lighter elements.
Solar wind is strong, but not to drag such elements as Co2 from the gravity.
The problem will arise when we start production of such elements as Hydrogen.
We will be able to see the effect when the first missions leave the plant.
As they leave they will be creating a vast amount of light gasses that could be carefully observed.
I’m not a big believer that terraforming is totally necessary, but I think it is safe to say that there is a lot of worry about the destruction of Earth, through war or some deadly bacteria etc. So wouldn’t it make sense not to put all your eggs in one basket, and if structures did start getting constructed on Mars then the process will happen naturally over time anyway.
Religious philosophy may hold strong in government, but my big worry is the mining of planets. Governments seem to be able to go all Moralistic one moment they destroy something the next.
As I said before I am not a large one for forums, but it is nice to see so much interest in space exploration. It shows that the human taste of the unknown is still alive.
And there is a lot of unknown out there.
It is true that Mars has a surface gravity 38% less than Earth‘s, and a magnetic field strength <0.1% of the Earth, which is next to nothing. All the same is that going to stop us trying. When some people think of the word terraform they generally think of it as a place for human life, far from it a foothold for life would be adequate, like a hardened single cell or as research is showing Lichens are slow but highly adaptable to change, with exception to sulphur dioxide, that we are working on. Terraforming would be better left to create itself, but it dose need a helping hand, a small toehold if you like. And if in a few thousand years human life could venture out of shelters then this would be great, although probably not for the other life forms.
Risk is a factor, and would be decreased as time progresses. But now we are in a stage of our existence where countries can be pulled together, and organisations have the availability to share ideas and concepts. Sadly history has shown that times like the present don’t last long, and change is inevitable. When this time comes that is what will make it more difficult, not what technology we have.
I personally think we do have a good leadership in some areas of space exploration, although they seem to get distracted in the attempt to try to please the media circus that surrounds them, and tied up in the red tape increasingly encircling everything, that I must admit angers me a lot these days, hence my dig at the 65 billion. Allot of corporations are just throwing an extra two, three million on the price of an object not because that’s how much it costs, but just because there is no comparisons or competition.
Sorry if I am sounding to political, but that is one good thing about these forums. It gives you a release for those things that niggle you. As far as private space organizations go they may never make it to the big league games, but so long as they keep pitching ideas that speed things up for the big cats, then they are doing there part.
Dook, your idea on steam power got some people here thinking, and it could work on a smaller scale of generator. Thank you, even if it dose not work, nothing works without an idea first.
Feel free to E.mail I dont generally have to much time for forums.
If we do not start with some form of terraforming programe then the atmosphere will deplinish even further. There are traces of gasses slowly escaping from the atmosphere in to space. We need to start now or it will become more difficult. The technology is out there now to seen a manned mission, and just needs bringing together, and it wont cost 65 billion like they suggest the next moon landing will. There is to much skimming the cream of the top of the milk going on, if you know what I mean.
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