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Dook, please don't every bring religion as a debate topic on a science forum.  One, there is no way to prove religion is true via scientific ways.  Two, religion and science have been clashing for the past 500-600 years.  Three, there is no way to prove God created the Earth and if you think the Earth is so beautiful, go to LA, Louisiana, or SE Asia and see for yourself.  We are killing the Earth.  Maybe that's an incentive to go find another habitable planet.

     How are endeavors of space colonies, the moon, and mars stupid?  Do you realize the value of a moon base?  We could put a manufacturing plant on the moon.  This manufacturing plant could cater to the building of satellites and other objects in space.  Since the gravity on the moon is 1/8th the gravity that is on Earth, it would be a lot more cost effective to launch materials from the moon than they are to launch from Earth.  Also, we could place solar panels on the moon and collect energy to power the plant.
     
Life is a very valuable thing.  How would you feel if your father died aboard Challenger or Columbia.  Life should never be taken for granted.  Yes, lives are the cost of progress, but by the way you are saying the life of loss is required, you sound brutal and like you do not care about the loss of life.  Lives lost are definitely a roadblock.  I see no reason why we should forget how many lives are lost.  NASA didn't do this.  That is why they grounded the shuttle flights for 2 years.  They feared that they would lose more astronauts to unsafe equipment.
     
Cost is definitely roadblock in the road to colonizing Mars and space.  Without funds, you cannot do anything.  This is why NASA has done very little over the past decade.  The NASA budget for Fiscal Year 2006 is only a mere $16.456 billion, only 2.4% over this year budget of $16.070 billion.  If NASA wants to achieve major goals like the "First Man on Mars", it will need a lot more funding.  We should think like we did when we were planning Apollo and fund NASA a lot better than it is being currently funded.   Because NASA is poorly funded, it cannot truly achieve any major goals on that small of a budget.
     
Space colonies are very valuable.  They provide us with a solution to the constanly growing population on Earth.  The predictied population growth of Earth between 2000-2005 was 6.1 billion people to 6.45 billion people, meaning that the population or Earth grew 5%.  Space colonies and colonizing Mars could be a solution to the growning population.  If the population keeps growning as it is currently, we will exhaust Earth's resources faster than we would if we colonized other planets, solar systems, and sent colonies out into space.  Colonies in the orbit of some gas giants would allow us to harvest Helium-3, which is an isotope which is used for clean fusion fuel.
     
Mining asteroids in the asteroid fields is very important to the expansion of the human race.  The asteroid field yields many important resources such as platinum, Iron, Cement, Silicates, Industrial Calcuim Oxide, a variety of Phosphates, Water, Carbon, Nitrogen, Sulfurs, Sulfides, and Ferrous metals.  The estimated value of an asteroid 1 km in diameter is $1 trillion.  Now there are many asteroids in the asteroid field bigger than 1 km and there are a lot of asteroids in that size range.  That would pay off the defecit of this country and give us a good surplus if we were to reach the asteroid field and start mining there first.  If NASA were to acheive that, that would secure them a very large budget to do their operations.

*Edit*  Choose the expansion of humanity into space, not sitting here on Earth.

In the first statement, your sentence structure states that the EVIDENCE is counter-productive.  Is that what you were trying to say?

Wow, you got all gold stars!  Did you get a happy face or a fuzzy sticker too?

It is inevitable that if everybody develops their own spelling system, we will no longer understand each other.  For example:  What is the biggest dessert (when you mean desert)?  By changing the spelling, you no longer have a desert, but a dessert (the course at the end of dinner) in question.  I hope you realize how that could cause a SERIOUS breakdown in communications.  In Old English, every word has it's own definite spelling, just like every other major language.  Languages do evolve, but very slowly and under set standards.

All of your spellings of color and grey are correct.  They have been OFFICIALLY designated to be spelt that way, so either of those spellings will not cause confusion.  But if i spelt it "kolour," it would cause a lot of confusion like Earthfirst does "everiday."  It would probably be interpreted as misspelling, but is it one of "colour" or "holour."  I mean, seriously, do you think that your reputable school teaches spelling and grammar for nothing?

Why is arguing with somebody from "ASU" asanine?  I got a kick out of your quote, "When the coasts flood, we will all just move there."  You do realize that the circumstances are not "just" in moving there.  People will be crammed, because you have a larger land mass' worth of people in a small area of land.  You explain this concept yourself in your last paragraph.  What I have to say is, "We can't all cram into the land locks, can we?"

yup, there's no reference to a "moon base" in the speech.  Also, does bush realize he will not be president in 2018?  just making sure bc idk if he knows he won't be president.

Spelling is very important. I don't know what they are teaching you at ASU, but without spelling, all means of written communication would collapse.  We wouldn't know what one another is saying, and civilization would collapse.  We would basically be going back to the dawn of civilization, which is not a good thing.

I checked out your school, ASU.  You claim to be smarter than me?  Yet the average SAT score at your school is roughly 1200?  I scored a 1200 on the SAT in 8th grade!  So much for being smarter than me.

Check out my school, which I attend with my friends who are users of this forum, VTTFSH_V and VTTFSH_Th.  Our school even has its own wikipedia article, and its a HIGH SCHOOL.  Read it carefully.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punahou
My school is one of the most reputable schools in the entire nation.  It is THE largest independent school.  Spelling is very important here, unlike at ASU.  Do you see how I have little or no spelling errors in my posts?  Also, I take Calculus and Physics Honors here, which are college-level courses.  And I'm only in 11th grade, buddy.  Those are probably courses offered by ASU to undergraduate students.

Furthermore, I somewhat dislike religious people.  They are always trying to force their beliefs upon others.  You may THINK you're smarter than us, but I KNOW you're not.  There are differnces between thinking and knowing.  You should be the "MR below 75".  You should also never announce that you are attending a "School of Liberal Arts and Sciences."  That is the lowest level of the college structure, with Universities being next, and Institutions being at the top.  And also, getting a BA is the second lowest degree you can get.  Why have you not attempted to get a MA or even a Ph.D?  Plus, a majority of graduate students get business degrees.  Until then, you will be a mediocre plant scientists.  Now with my grades and SAT score, I could probably get into a good university or institute of technology, such as California Institute of Technology, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and other schools of that caliber.  I know as a fact that both Caltech and MIT are better schools than ASU.

Finally, another thing for my resume would be a book that my friends and I are planning to write, which will be about Space Humanization.  It will have more breadth and depth than any other space book that has ever been written.

Good Day.

I see we have come to an accord.

It's simple.  100º C is the boiling point, and 0º is the freezing point of water.  This is "everiday" chemistry.  I guess you FAILED that class.

P.S. What the hell is "everiday logic?"

You do realize that the water would boil at noon since the boiling point is 100 degrees C.  At night, the water would freeze since the freezing point of water is 0 degrees C.  The whole idea of putting an atmosphere and water on the moon are very horrible ideas.

There is a way to trap antiprotons.  It's called a penning trap!  It traps atoms in electric and magnetic fields.
http://livefromcern.web.cern.ch/livefro … r/FAQ.html
http://livefromcern.web.cern.ch/livefro … .html#trap