All speculation of coure - but wouldn't it be wonderful to have human experts examining these things up close!!
louis wrote:From 0:52...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLmqGLJFTl0
I've always liked this one...I believe the Rover took a second view of this scene (some days ealier or after) which showed a different arrangement of artefacts, suggesting movement. Sadly not featured in this video...I'll keep looking. You really have to see the two pics together then it becomes much more convincing. If anyone has a link to the two pics, will be much appreciated.
I'll keep my eye out for those. Suggesting movement hmmm, well could be, but take a look at that vertebra close up once again and if I'm not mistaken, there does appear to be a small critter of sorts or maybe a snake, very cute!
From 0:52...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLmqGLJFTl0
I've always liked this one...I believe the Rover took a second view of this scene (some days ealier or after) which showed a different arrangement of artefacts, suggesting movement. Sadly not featured in this video...I'll keep looking. You really have to see the two pics together then it becomes much more convincing. If anyone has a link to the two pics, will be much appreciated.
I'll keep my eye out for those. Suggesting movement hmmm, well could be, but take a look at that vertebra close up once again and if I'm not mistaken, there does appear to be a small critter of sorts or maybe a snake, very cute!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLmqGLJFTl0
I've always liked this one...I believe the Rover took a second view of this scene (some days ealier or after) which showed a different arrangement of artefacts, suggesting movement. Sadly not featured in this video...I'll keep looking. You really have to see the two pics together then it becomes much more convincing. If anyone has a link to the two pics, will be much appreciated.
]]>SpaceNut wrote:maybe a spider turtle
http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/upl … 65x385.jpgPetrified tree or is this sodom an gamora
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/ … 598177.jpgThe real Mars
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/6 … 530451.jpgHow about a little backbone
http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/up … ne%202.jpgUsing the "auto color feature" in Irfanview, the algorithm is well known in imaging analysis circles as being super effective and even more so, when used to reverse the NASA induced proverbial red hue which "blends in" all RGB to the degree that the true color is red washed.
In Irfanview, the color of the calcium (presumably) of the vertebrae is exposed.
These protrusions appear not to be wind blown sand or Mars mung!
maybe a spider turtle
http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/upl … 65x385.jpgPetrified tree or is this sodom an gamora
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/ … 598177.jpgThe real Mars
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/6 … 530451.jpgHow about a little backbone
http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/up … ne%202.jpg
Using the "auto color feature" in Irfanview, the algorithm is well known in imaging analysis circles as being super effective and even more so, when used to reverse the NASA induced proverbial red hue which "blends in" all RGB to the degree that the true color is red washed.
In Irfanview, the color of the calcium (presumably) of the vertebrae is exposed.
These protrusions appear not to be wind blown sand or Mars mung!
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The two arrows are pointing to locations which definitely appear to have been erased. Must have been damning.
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But I agree that the oddities like the "thigh bone" photo should have been investigated.
I also agree that it seems increasingly likely that there was once microbial life in the former ocean on Mars. If there was such, it is likely that there still is some sort of underground life still. With the meteor exchange process, it would also seem likely that Earth life and Mars life could actually be very-distantly related.
NASA internally (but not publicly) agrees. That is why the "planetary protection" officer post has been upgraded, and the destinations Curiosity can visit have been restricted. The reason given is not to contaminate a potential Mars life abode with Earthly microbes on the rover.
Mark my words, this will become another in a long line of NASA excuses not to go.
GW
]]>Yes, the "bones" plus real evidence of a cavity (i.e. previous big animal) is v. suggestive.
Personally I think we should just keep an open mind and not be ashamed of accepting there might have been or might still be life on a planet that has enjoyed water, gas and mineral resources so similar to those on Earth.
We know that chunks of Earth and chunks of Mars were regularly exchanged via meteorites so whatever was capable of life on one might well be capable of life of the other, especially when ground conditions were much more alike.
Interesting photos, to be sure. It is difficult to separate patterns that are real from over-interpreted patterns, because our brains are hard-wired to look for and see patterns, whether they really exist or not. Some of the very weirdest shaped rocks on Earth occur in caves as solution pockets in the limestone. Desert wind erosion can create things almost as weirdly shaped as the cave stuff.
But, if you look to the lower right in the "thigh bone" picture, there are some depressions that look like where sand is draining into a cavity beneath. In an environment of wind-blown sand and rocks, why are there cavities into which sand can drain like that? We took the photo with the rover, but did not dig with its digging tool to confirm or deny the presence of a cavity that should not be there. Why was that decision made?
One thing: it's quite evident there are more sharp-edged rocks than rounded ones. Certainly makes the choice of aluminum tires on the rover wheels look rather stupid, doesn't it? I already know by experience building farm implements that when you drag steel through rocks, the rocks win.
Aluminum is like butter compared to steel. Just goes to show there's more to space hardware design than just electronics and software, no?
GW
GW
]]>Faces in the cliff edge? Uh...No.
]]>But, if you look to the lower right in the "thigh bone" picture, there are some depressions that look like where sand is draining into a cavity beneath. In an environment of wind-blown sand and rocks, why are there cavities into which sand can drain like that? We took the photo with the rover, but did not dig with its digging tool to confirm or deny the presence of a cavity that should not be there. Why was that decision made?
One thing: it's quite evident there are more sharp-edged rocks than rounded ones. Certainly makes the choice of aluminum tires on the rover wheels look rather stupid, doesn't it? I already know by experience building farm implements that when you drag steel through rocks, the rocks win.
Aluminum is like butter compared to steel. Just goes to show there's more to space hardware design than just electronics and software, no?
GW
]]>Fish:
Mars Crab:
Statue:
Man on the mountain:
Fixed Mars Crab
]]>There's little left over to do anything else of significance. Have you noticed that the JPL planetary probes that have been so successful are starting to dry up? Shortage of money.
No efforts toward a practical space suit for planetary surfaces (they hired Dava Newman away to NASA, but took her off MCP suit work). Shortage of money.
See anybody doing anything but paper studies on spin gravity? Shortage of money. I see ads for freeze-dried food with a 25 year shelf life on TV at night, but it requires free-surface cooking with water in a pot, in turn requiring spin gravity. Spin gravity also enables use of frozen food cooked with free-surface water in a pot. Spin gravity is the only sure way to avoid microgravity diseases. There's a real need! But no money.
I see proposals to add a little bit of plastic cosmic ray shielding to Orion, but it is entirely inadequate to protect from a solar flare. I still see almost nobody working on ideas to use water/wastewater, frozen food, and propellant as a solar flare shield. I can name myself and Zubrin as exceptions, maybe there are a few others. You can't build linear strings of docked modules like ISS and successfully do that; some of them have to be side-by-side! See any innovative spin gravity or radiation shield designs out of NASA that are not "Battlestar Galacticas"? No serious work on it at NASA (or most anywhere else). No money.
So who's actually working on landing 5+ ton things on Mars? Not NASA. No money. And they've sabotaged Spacex's propulsive landings for the crew Dragon that becomes the unmanned Red Dragon.
Who is working on practical moon landers? Not NASA. No money.
The things really needed to go to the moon, Mars, the asteroids, or anywhere else, are not being worked on at NASA because of a shortage of cash, and the the planetary probe program is withering for the same reason. The money pits have expanded to take all the cash. A "death spiral" is coming for the space program, even more so than with US health care.
The root cause is mis-spent money, more so from Congressional greed and incompetence, than any management ineptness (and there is plenty of that: 3 dead crews from it so far) at NASA.
Shakespeare almost got it right with "first let's kill all the lawyers". Should be "politicians". But, hey, there's a lot of overlap between the two categories!
GW
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